Moving on the Monday OPEN thread
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…Steve C doesn’t appear to be wearing his knee-pads.
I Walked the Greenway again Sunday between Franklin Rd to Wasena Park….It was the most crowed I’ve ever seen it…Almost to the point of being dangerous, no not almost…it was dangerous. Couldn’t count the near misses of either myself of my dog nearly getting hit by a bicyclist……not your Sunday drivers but these guys who think they have the right of way to go as fast as they see fit instead… of slowing down for congestion and the conditions. It was so congested that many kept stepping over and using the traffic lane to walk or bike. Ever so drives home my point of why Wiley Dr. through Smith Park should be closed to traffic….This way the bikes could use the car lane easing congestion and making it more enjoyable and safe for all the walkers and kids. They should now consider doing this on weekends when we have these nice days and spring and summer, have every weekend closure…..There is simply no need for traffic through this park…..Mark my word….once a cyclist strikes and severely injuries or kills someone….Closure is the way to go.
I attach an article from MSN: http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/14/16505804-obama-chides-gop-on-debt-limit-we-are-not-a-deadbeat-nation?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1
Here is the paragraph within that article that puzzles me:
“And the president sought to frame the risks of default in stark terms. He warned markets would go “haywire” if Congress would not act; Obama said that interest rates would rise, and checks to Social Security beneficiaries and military veterans would cease.”
Now, according to what you libs have been telling me, this SS money is in a trust. It is invested in Treasury Bonds, you say.
If that is so, then why is it even part of the debt limit discussions? Why would we need to raise the debt ceiling to pay SS?
Honestly, I do not understand this. Is Obama mistaken?
Honest answers please.
“Now, according to what you libs have been telling me, this SS money is in a trust. It is invested in Treasury Bonds, you say.
If that is so, then why is it even part of the debt limit discussions? Why would we need to raise the debt ceiling to pay SS?
Honestly, I do not understand this. Is Obama mistaken?
Honest answers please.”
–Comment by BobH
BobH, ask some honest questions and maybe you’ll get honest answers.
As for SS, think about it like a bank account, BobH. When you put your money into it, the bank holds it in trust. That doesn’t mean they have a pile of dollars in a bag with your name on it in a drawer somewhere. They loan it out, and earn interest on it.
SS does the same thing.
E Duane, try going the other direction on the greenway. It’s a lot less crowded than thru all those parks.
Now we know why the Republicans are opposed to Chuck Hagel as Secr. of Defense. The president didn’t ask their permission to nominate him.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/john-mccain-explains-why-the-gop-is-against-every-single-person-obama-nominates/
Obama nominates a Republican and Lindsey Graham queefs that it’s an “In Your Face” nomination. Just another day in the Republican battle to out-stupid one another.
E. Duane, unlike at least one other poster on this thread, I don’t dislike cyclists, but Im amazed at the ones who seem to think the Greenway is a bicycle freeway, even when crowded with walkers. I think most are considerate, but it takes only a few speed demons. If I were a biker, I wouldn’t be on that section.
Dan,
Any trustee of any retirement fund anywhere in America would be criminally prosecuted for spending retirement funds on anything but.
Guys like Gdad and others have been trying to say for years that there is some sort of trust set up for SS. Obviously not, if the debt limit has to be raised to pay for it.
I don’t think SS is a bad thing, but I think the government adminstering it is a big train wreck.
So, you are saying that SS money that gets paid to the governemnt really just goes to whatever the government wants to spend it on?
Virginia House Panel Rejects Governor McDonnell’s Felons’ Rights Bill
“A GOP-dominated House subcommittee killed the legislation Monday, less than a week after McDonnell surprised lawmakers by urging them to support the legislation.”
http://www.wdbj7.com/news/wdbj7-virginia-house-panel-rejects-felons-rights-bill-20130114,0,912824.story?track=rss
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/debra-l-ness/flu-paid-sick-days_b_2455898.html?utm_hp_ref=health-news&ir=Health%20News
So, this story ties in both the crappy labor practices in this country with our mediocre health care system. If people are at risk for both loss in pay and even job loss for not coming to work when sick, we’re creating job conditions that guarantee the spread of communicable disease. Combined with the large number of uninsured here who can’t seek prompt medical attention when they get sick, we’ve perfected an environment that promotes pandemic.
“Guys like Gdad and others have been trying to say for years that there is some sort of trust set up for SS. ”
I’m thinking REAL hard and can’t remember ever saying this, Bob H. In fact, I claim no particular expertise on SS whatsoever.
“Any trustee of any retirement fund anywhere in America would be criminally prosecuted for spending retirement funds on anything but.”
Comment by BobH
Bob, what rock are you living under? Do you have any idea the number of pension funds that have gone bad in this country without ANYONE going to jail? Many of them have been in corporations.
#16 Yep, them’s our ‘publicans. Limit voting as much as possible. Congrats to Habeeb for pushing for it, though.
So do we think this guy was licensed to carry??
http://wtkr.com/2013/01/14/bullet-goes-into-virginia-beach-home/
BobH apparently forgot about Gov. McDonnell using VRS funds to to close a budget shortfall 2 years ago (then bragging about the budget surplus).
“Bullet Goes Into Virginia Beach Home”
I wonder if the bullet knocked first.
God, I just hate the way Obama keeps working to destroy the U.S. oil and gas industries.
“America still needs imported oil. But growing production and shrinking consumption have created a most promising trend. According to the International Energy Agency, the United States will become the world’s leading oil producer in just a few years. Imagine that. The United States could produce more oil than Saudi Arabia as early as 2017 and become a net oil exporter by 2030.
And if you count other petroleum products, the future is already here. In 2011, the United States exported more petroleum products — including gasoline, diesel and other fuels — than it imported. That had not happened in more than half a century.”
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/14/opinion/ghitis-obama-energy/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Seriously, the enormous number of lies right wingers told during the election is staggering.
BobH, I’m going to take you at your word so please take me at mine. I’m not an expert either.
Can’t cover all I know here but revenues go into the govt., both payroll taxes for SS and income taxes. SS has been taking in more than they’ve been paying out, in effect subsidizing income taxes and allowing those rates to be lowered. Paying more money in in payroll taxes for SS was done with the understanding that “Trust” would be paid back eventually. The time is fast approaching when SS will pay out more than it takes in, in which case, it needs to be supplemented from income taxes.
Both payroll tax surpluses and income taxes have gone to the general fund to pay for govt. services. Obviously we’d not been taking in enough from income/business/excise taxes to cover outlays, hence the borrowing.
If SS is paying out more than payroll taxes are putting in, it has to come from the general fund and hence the need to borrow the money because we’re still not taking in enough through those other taxes.
Helpful?
I predict we hear nothing more on this thread from BobH.
Hey Scott M,
you do realize, of course, that the position you layed out so authoritatively to Bob H., is, well, entirely wrong.
To wit, you said,
“Both payroll tax surpluses and income taxes have gone to the general fund to pay for govt. services. Obviously we’d not been taking in enough from income/business/excise taxes to cover outlays, hence the borrowing.”
Of course, you write to Bob H. as thought the only way to look at such things is through the blue hue of your celebrity worshiping-sun glasses, and through the kool-aid guzzeling induced narrow-minded thought process emanating from your lib-pea-brain. In order to show you how simple the concept is in which I and many others believe, allow me to make a slight change in the words in the last sentence of your’s that I quoted:
Bob H., “Obviously we’d been spending tax-payer money like blithering idiots, and have no realization of the debt we are piling on our kids and grandkids, hence the need for us to STOP acting like the blithering idiots we are, and reduce our spending.”
Scott, do you see how much better mine reads than your’s?
Scott, do you see how much better mine reads than your’s?
Comment by Frank — January 14, 2013 @ 8:40 pm
Help! An inmate has escaped from one of Va’s few remaining residential psychiatric treatment facilities. He was last heard from posting on Dan Casey’s blog using the name Frank.
oh wow, wayne.
you are so witty. such a witty witty witty wittle man you are.
“Closure is the way to go.” Comment by E. Duane — January 14, 2013 @ 12:19 pm. What about bicycle speed limit and pedestrian right of away signs?
Bicycles
5 MPH
When Foot
Traffic Is
Present
Attention
Cyclists…
Pedestrians
Have The
Right of Way
Just a thought for what it’s worth?
Frank, was I factually incorrect?
Hey Frank, let’s analyze your “improvement.” You tell Scott he’s completely wrong, yet you offer no proof of such other than your baseless declaration that he’s wrong. Your entire post is packed with unimaginative cliches, bad punctuation, and terrible writing. You obviously don’t know the meaning of the word “blithering.” And you don’t know how to use the possessive apostrophe correctly.
And yet in this stupendously horrendous post, you call another person pea-brained?
“I predict we hear nothing more on this thread from BobH.”
Bingo
yep, gdad, I sure did. and you are correct to note the flaws in my post, both grammatical and conceptual.
however, my point, which flew right by your pointy, pea-brained head …was to expose Scott M’s lack of thought process which you libs abound with. i think i did that.
and, i suppose i could have substituted the word “blissful” for “blithering”.
Scott M,
Your “facts” fail to address obama’s constant blathering about “only raising taxes on the rich” though-out his campaign. Then January 1, 2013 roles around, and the take-home pay of the working poor and the middle class goes down.
Oops.
@29 Frank, what?! BobH asked about SS taxes, not policy.
So I wasn’t wrong is what you’re saying. You just don’t like Obama, right? And so you feel the need to be a jerk about that? Taking your aggression out on others. Do you pull the wings off butterflies too?
“Then January 1, 2013 roles around,…”
This from the guy who keeps insulting the intelligence of other posters.
Hey Scott M.,
I wasn’t discussing SS policy either. I was discussing the fact that the FICA (SS) withholding increased on folks on January 1, 2013….as was Bob H, or so I thought. And, this follows a year during which obama went on, and on, and on, and on about the only folks whose taxes he was gonna allow to increase was….the rich. But, the rich don’t give a hoot about FICA. The working poor and middle class do give a hoot about having $25 – $85 month LESS spendable money each month, ya know?
I don’t care for liars. I don’t care for libs. I especially don’t care for lib liars lying.
I’ve never pulled wings off flies, or even off sweet little butterflies. I have strung night crawlers and minnows on large, sharp, fish hooks. What’s your point? Get it?
“And, this follows a year during which obama went on, and on, and on, and on about the only folks whose taxes he was gonna allow to increase was….the rich. But, the rich don’t give a hoot about FICA. The working poor and middle class do give a hoot about having $25 – $85 month LESS spendable money each month, ya know?
. . .I’ve never pulled wings off flies, or even off sweet little butterflies. I have strung night crawlers and minnows on large, sharp, fish hooks. What’s your point? Get it?”
–Comment by Frank
Frank,
By your own admission you were against the working poor and middle class having $25-85 a month extra in spending money, and that was before you were against them NOT having an extra $25-85 a month in spending money AFTER the temporary, 2-year tax cut expired. All of us thinking folks are struggling to understand the source of your outrage, given that we’ve gone back to the status quo that (by your own admission) you say you didn’t want changed way in 2010.
With regard to the second graf, above, have you ever heard of the old “Let’s make the bastard deny it” trick?
In other words, do you still beat your wife?
Scott M: well played!
“…Lindsey Graham queefs…”
How apropos…
dano,
As you twist and turn on the hook, dano, please understand this clearly: I am against folks at the low-pay levels paying the smae FICA taxes as those at the higher-pay levels. I have never seen the sense to that.
I did not want FICA-tax payers to get artificial “reductions” in withholding amounts a couple years ago. If such a thing was to occur, I wanted it limited to those who were on the lower income scale. Where’s the point? Oops. I know where the point is, after all, …you’re the one on the hook, arntcha?
As far as what could be going on in all your pointy-lib heads (thinking folks, eh?), I truly don’t know. What I do know is, obama has screwed the working-poor and middle-class folks, and you libs think its great.
“dano,
As you twist and turn on the hook, dano, please understand this clearly: I am against folks at the low-pay levels paying the smae FICA taxes as those at the higher-pay levels. I have never seen the sense to that.
I did not want FICA-tax payers to get artificial “reductions” in withholding amounts a couple years ago. If such a thing was to occur, I wanted it limited to those who were on the lower income scale. Where’s the point? Oops. I know where the point is, after all, …you’re the one on the hook, arntcha?
As far as what could be going on in all your pointy-lib heads (thinking folks, eh?), I truly don’t know. What I do know is, obama has screwed the working-poor and middle-class folks, and you libs think its great.”
–Comment by Frank
We know why you’re upset Frank. It’s because Obama didn’t renege on his pledge that his proposed FICA tax cut would last only two years. That made you darn angry!
By contrast, you admire the Republicans who reneged on their 2001 and 2003 promises in 2010 and 2012.
Obama made good on his promise and you cannot stand that. The Republican so-called “tax-cutters” proved themselves liars and welchers and you worship them for that.
It’s all quite clear to everyone here. You admire lies and liars, which is what you call those who refuse to play that game.
Frank, I know how much you value my attention, but…I’m just not that into you.
Aw, shucks, Scott M. Well, I’ll keep tryin’.