Anything of that sort I just do not see happening with our country the way it is. But, if our country ever devolved to where that was possible, the Second Amendment would be the least of our concerns as we would have probably suffered a near complete and total civil and economic collapse by that point anyway.

Comment by John Wilburn — January 30, 2013 @ 6:53 pm

JW, do you really believe that the Revolutionary War had anything to do with gun confiscation, apart from good military strategy?

You pine for a good, civilized debate, yet you support applewood’, the very antithesis of civilized debate. As for my closets, they surely contain the skeletons of progressive thinkers from the present and the past. My closet, my choice. I respect your right to fill your closet with the fashions of your choice. I truly don’t think applewood fits you. I think you are more thoughtful than that.

While there are other people than John hoping to give violence an easier path in our state, on this blog only he and Dave Hicks combine that with such explicit contempt for the victims of gun violence. Their contempt for victims is contemptible, I believe. Factor in John’s silly anti-government paranoia and his willingness to post false historical claptrap and it becomes much harder for me to allow his gun worship to pass unremarked. So I don’t. If JW hates the fact that the 1A is a more powerful weapon than the 2A, tough titties, or I guess I should say, tough moobs.

I’d much rather play music with you J.M., or discuss your other creative endeavors, or compare our caregiving experiences, if you care to share a little about your experiences in those realms. As a gun owner myself, I’ve found that I have a whole ‘nuther side of my brain that an identity built around guns could never satisfy.

Comment by John Wilburn — January 30, 2013 @ 9:31 pm

That sounds good, Mr. Wilburn. Perhaps we can meet up here in the ‘burg one evening and do precisely that. We’re overdue for a face-to-face meeting anyway.

As far as Warren is concerned, he’s kind of become a straight-up bully to you. Everyone gets heated here, but he seems to have put you in his personal crosshairs (pun intended) and seems to be relentlessly trying to tear down and belittle you. I do admire your perseverance through it all. On your end, though, any response to him at this point is feeding the troll, so to speak.

When I find myself taking this place too seriously, I just ramble off into the absurd. Witness my recent behavior modification experiment with Frank. It worked like a charm (he went over 30 hours without prefacing any of his comments with “hey”), and he ended up nominating me for shunner-in-chief, an office to which I have always aspired. Speaking of which, we’ll need a shunning security advisor and I think you’d fit the bill nicely. It’s a cushy, do-little job, but the pay is lousy. Have your people call my people if you’re interested.

White/Goodman ’13

Again, the only “component of gun control” involved in the American Revolution was the kernel for militia service being codified, and the attempts to disarm the insurgents. Gun control, gun confiscation and gun ownership was no aspect of the American Revolution cause.

And while I am lecturing on the damned obvious, there was no aspect of future rebellion against the government being created when the Second Amendment was written into the Constitution. None. I find it offensive when fools take it that way too. We did not create a nation just to satisfy some whim of eloquent rich dudes. And we did not create nor seek to create the United States of Libertaria! You do not get to ignore the “United” when it suits.

Obviously, the shellacking that experienced old hand Joe Biden gave the newbie-on-the-national-stage Payl Ryan still stings greatly. For the record, I thought Biden gave Ryan every bit of the respect he deserved.

It’s not Biden’s problem that Paul Ryan lives in Ayn Rand fairy-tale land, where he invents problems that don’t exist and, with a straight face and in utter seriousness, prescribes cockamamie solutions that would be harmful to the country. That is all on Ryan.

Not everyone DESERVES to be taken seriously, John. There are a few who don’t, and Paul Ryan is one of them.

“I’d love to have a rational discussion about gun control, but there are too many people on both sides who debate using fear-mongering, hyperbole, rhetorical flourish, supposition and/or blatant dishonesty to forward the issue.”

In a formal, civilized debate setting, I would really enjoy that. The way this place is conducted, it won’t happen here.

After seeing the praise Joe Biden was heaped with from many of these bloggers after his classless, disrespectful, rude, performance vs. Paul Ryan, I gave up hope of anything more meaningful than trading shots across the bow with these folks. Compound that with a certain jerk who must personally attack every GD thing I ever post because of his inexplicable personal vendetta against me, and I don’t feel like doing anything truly constructive here anymore. At one time, I used to be the one who would call for civility and, believe it or not, Warren appreciated how my civility stood out. That is how I am in real life. He sure devolved quickly, too. This crass blog can be fun, but it isn’t my natural style and I think it is harmful to those who spend significant amounts of time here. That, I can do something about….

All applehead would have so say is “guns r gud. I has lots and kan kill a lotsof peoples”, and you’d be all over him patting him on the back for making a “good point”. He is consistently wrong on everything he posts.

I’ve been enjoying your posts. I’ve also been enjoying watching the libs twist themselves into pretzels as they futilly try to make rational sense.

Well done, folks.

…on blogs, anyway. I’d love to have a rational discussion about gun control, but there are too many people on both sides who debate using fear-mongering, hyperbole, rhetorical flourish, supposition and/or blatant dishonesty to forward the issue. Therefore, I’ve mostly withdrawn from gun debates.

However, I occasionally find someone who is so disingenuous and so fake that I just can’t resist, regardless of subject. applewood is a blustering, bloviating poltroon who deserves to have his punk card pulled as often as possible. I truly pray that no one ever need his protection, for they will be shielding themselves with an apparition.

I hope he is part of a giant email network. I hope they do get together to huddle fight en masse. I hope that a fraction of a second before the GBU that just dropped through the roof of their poorly-constructed bunker detonates, they realize that they f’d up, big time. Outgunned, out-trained and outclassed, history will remember them as some crazy dudes that blew themselves up in a compound in the long-neglected butt-crack of Wyoming. People like him are doomsday fetishists; all they need is a cause, real or imagined. It’s about creating the illusion of preparation, not actually taking action. That would require a spine.