Palestine — the unholy land
Guest Post
By Dave Gresham
For almost 70 years, the Palestinians and Jews have been fighting with each other. It’s the latest installment of arguments that began 4,000 years ago.
Did God give the land of Palestine to certain people, or not?
If God did not, then who put lies in God’s mouth in order to steal?
And if God did, then what was promised?
These questions have never been answered to the satisfaction of everyone involved, and the dialogue between the parties always turns into violence.
With that in mind, the key to solving the problem in Palestine is to consider the illnesses of most of the people involved (since they claim to understand God better than others and think they are God’s favorite). By illnesses, I mean the religions that most of the people involved are following, which are Judaism and Islam, and also Christianity, which has generally supported the Jews recently.
Because all three groups have elevated written words to be the voice of God, instead of trusting the innate authority of love and the golden rule, it may be possible to use information from those ancient texts to fix the problem.
Therefore, the following remedy for the situation in Palestine will be based on scripture and common sense. This is regardless of what may be the actual historical truth, long since lost in time, if it was ever known by them in the first place. In the interest of comprehension for the layman, this account will be as simple and abbreviated as possible.
We begin with Abraham. He is a physical and/or spiritual patriarch to the people of all three mental illnesses previously mentioned. Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. The Palestinians trace their lineage from Ishmael, son of Abraham. The Jews trace their lineage from Judah, son of Jacob, son of Isaac, son of Abraham.
God made promises to Abraham that he would bless him by making nations of his offspring, and also that all nations of the world would be blessed thru him. Many years later, God made similar promises to Abraham’s grandson, Jacob, who he renamed Israel. These promises were both physical and spiritual in nature.
Were the promises fulfilled?
Israel has already been a great nation. And as for the promises that were spiritual in nature, a vast multitude say these were fulfilled by Jesus. He was a Jewish man who taught that the real kingdom of God is spiritual in design, rather than physical, because love and the golden rule are the key to life and the highest authority.
But however you view the promises made to Abraham, whether you see them as past, present, or future – or as fiction that was written by priestcrafters after the events to obtain power and revenue – the critical point is this: The Jews do not represent all of Israel, but only Judah, one of his many sons.
Here is more background on this:
Israel’s descendants would eventually refer to themselves as being from a certain “tribe,” meaning which of his 12 sons was their earliest ancestor. But before that came to pass, Israel, his sons, and their families, went to Egypt where one son was already located. His many descendants, generations later and much larger in number, then migrated to the Sinai Desert under the leadership of Moses. Here the tribes cast lots to divide the land they were about to invade, called Canaan (today’s Palestine).
In that lottery, the descendants of Judah (Judeans/Jews) were given the southernmost portion of Palestine, a huge tract of land, though quite arid.
The tribes lived in peaceful alliance for a brief period and Israel became a powerful nation under King David, then a world crossroads under his son, King Solomon (both Judeans).
But there was great unrest over the high taxes imposed by Solomon to support his extravagant lifestyle. When he died, the other tribes petitioned the new king, Rehoboam, to reduce taxes. Instead of addressing their legitimate complaints, the childish new king insulted them, which caused the other tribes to cast Judah out of Israel.
Thus, Israel and Judea became separate countries (sometimes called the northern and southern kingdoms by bible scholars). It was this way for centuries, with the two even warring against each other on occasion.
And then the physical nation of Israel ended.
The kingdom of Assyria rose to power and conquered Israel. They took everything of value back to their homeland, including educated citizens and tradesmen, leaving only the poorest peasants behind, who were then subjected to foreigners. The land ceased to be called Israel and eventually became known as Samaria, its most influential city.
After this, the Babylonian empire came to power and conquered Judea. And they did the same thing to the Judeans that the Assyrians had done to the Israelites. However, when Persia conquered Babylon several decades later, some of the Jews who had not assimilated returned to Jerusalem, rebuilt their temple, and gradually wrote the first versions of most of the Old Testament books.
Meanwhile, centuries passed. The Israelites (all the other tribes of the northern kingdom) never returned, but instead were absorbed into other nations.
After that came the Greeks, and then the Romans. The land of Palestine was continually subjected to one conqueror after another.
In every era, Samaria, the majority of ancient Israel, was considered ethnically distinct from Judea. It was this way even when Rome managed all of Palestine (including Galilee, formerly northern Samaria), as one province. In fact, Judea had been a separate country for close to 1,000 years by the time of Roman rule, and the nation of Israel had not existed for many centuries.
Understand, it wasn’t only foreign rulers that considered the Judeans a separate people, because the Jews themselves thought so, routinely insulting their northern neighbors by calling them “half-breeds.” This disparaging attitude is especially telling, given that many Jews lived among the Samaritans and Galileans, many of whom shared the blood of their brother tribes lost to antiquity.
Because of constant rebellions by the Jews against their Roman occupiers, particularly in Jerusalem, the Romans and Jews fought two wars. The first was just a few decades after Jesus died and the second was about 100 years later. After the second war, Rome was fed up with the endless insurrections and declared that every Jew must leave the land of Palestine, or die. So this edict not only applied to Judea, but also Samaria and Galilee, and thus the Jewish diaspora was completed. From this point on there were almost no Jews in Palestine for about 1,800 years.
In a little over 100 years, particularly in the last 70, the returning Judeans (wrongly calling themselves Israel) have grown from having almost 0% of the land to possessing 78% of it. Nearly all of it has been forcibly taken from the Palestinians.
Most of this occupied land does not belong to the Jews – according to their own record, for the nation of Israel (all the other tribes) has been gone over 2,500 years. All the returning ancestors of Judah are entitled to – assuming they are entitled – is that which is called Judea, their old southern kingdom.
Unfortunately, this solution was ignored by the returning Jews, who named their new country Israel, the same name as the long-extinct great nation that once included all 12 tribes and far more territory. But the one remaining tribe, Judah, should not be allowed to claim false borders in order to annex all of ancient Israel, which God never game them, and which they have never ruled. Stated plainly, the old northern kingdom does not belong to the Jews.
Not only is this is logical based on scriptures, it fits historically. Those areas were occupied by the ancestors of Palestinians before, during, and after Jesus’ time, including 1,800 years after the diaspora with virtually no Judeans living there at all. It is only recently that the Jews have returned – or invaded – depending on one’s point of view.
So let the Jews have the land of Judea, which is their original gift from God and includes Jerusalem. In return, the Palestinians keep Gaza and all of the old northern kingdom, including Tel Aviv, where their ancestors have lived continuously for over 2,500 years.
After Palestine becomes two separate states, if the Jews want to expel any non-Jew from Judea because it pleases their sick Jewish God, then so be it. And if the Palestinians want to expel any non-Muslim from their country because it pleases their sick Islamic God, then so be it.
It is a tragedy that Jews and Muslims have not elevated love and reason above all other things. The same could be said about Christians, who turned the great reformer Jesus into a new god business, ironically, after he rebuked the one built on Moses. Jesus called us brothers and sisters and taught that love and the golden rule should be our master.
But instead of taking this great universal truth to heart, priestcrafters put him above us, so they can try to be above us in his absence. This is the same reason the other sicknesses put their icons Moses and Mohammed above us.
Religions are the spiritual equivalent of contagious physical illnesses. And anyone who puts anything above love and the golden rule is terminally ill.






Nice piece Mr. Gresham! I am going to share this with a few friends! Great job!
Thank you for the succinct analysis…and, while you will get a BIG backlash from all sides, you have put the real history of the region out there. The U.N. basically created the current Israel, and wars have expanded it. I always draw a parallel to imagining a world governing body enforcing upon the U.S. rules that carve back out the Native American lands and give them back…anyway, controversial, true history/biblical history, which will tick off a multitude. Again, thank you.
So he thinks Islam(a religion) is the spiritual equivalent of a contagious physical illness?
“And anyone who puts anything above love”
Yeah, that condemnation sounds like love.
BTW not all Palestinians are Muslims and not all Israelis practice Judaism.
what a wonderful and interesting explanation – am looking forward to more time to reread and digest and THINK -
The Ironic thing about you Mr. Gresham, is although you are Godless and anti-faith…. You are obsessed with God! You have devoted the last few years fighting against a God you don’t even believe is real.
I don’t fight against the Loch ness Monster…..
Great piece, Dave Gresham! This is the stuff no one will ever hear in “Sunday School”.
Just as I gave up on Chuck for his bitter partisan hack job while decrying bitter partisan hacking, I will not read anything that ascribes all religious belief to “mental illnesses”. That is crass and beneath any level of humanity or persuasion. I am sorry I will have to miss whatever “wonderful and interesting” came after the needless insult.
This is very interesting.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard any group anywhere express the belief that God is NOT on their side.
Sandi,
I usually find myself in the opposite corner with your views. However, in this case, I agree with you. By describing religious belief as “mental illness” Gresham’s true agenda clouds and even spoils any valid point he wants to make. That phrase set the tone and gave good cause to cease reading.
I’d be interested in where the author thinks love and the golden rule he speaks of come from if not from God. Oh, that’s right, God is sickness inducing….hmmm, ever heard the term “lovesick”? Maybe the author needs to set aside belief in love and the golden rule too? Really, the best way to have a logical argument doesn’t seem to involve insulting the majority of the listeners.
I absolutely hate it when pieces authored by others are published in Mr. Casey’s space! I feel that if the Roanoke News feels the pieces are relevant to what some might care to read that it should put such under ‘editorials’.
pistol pete,
Mr. Gresham, and others like myself are not “against” god. We can’t be against something we don’t believe in. But what we can do is share our point of view in search for tolerance and understanding for our ways of thought.
You can disagree with what this piece of writing says, but don’t attack the individual for stating his case. Ad hominem.
I think if you have something to say to challenge the case he has presented, great! But don’t attack him solely for his point of view and giving good reason for his point of view.
Besides, the Loch Ness Monster has yet to destroy whole groups of people over a faith. The Loch Ness Monster has yet to rape little boys… has yet to call someone derogatory names just simply for being different. So… Until the Loch Ness Monster attains 501c3 status and writes his own supernatural reasoning on why we should worship him and his creator, no comparison here.
When one of the greatest Godly Men in our country becomes the face of what Christians deal with in this country. Thanks to people like Dave Gresham..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/2013/01/10/25fb83bc-5b6e-11e2-88d0-c4cf65c3ad15_story.html
Mr. Gresham, interesting comments, sir.
Mr. JT, the things horrible things you speak of were committed by horrible people.
The right of return was supposed to be by the hand of God and not by man. There are many jews that believe there should be no state of Israel and that their books forbid it. The ironic thing is that over half of jews in Israel are atheist or non-religious.
Flo, the blog and the newspaper are two separate things, as are Dan’s blog and Dan’s columns.
The irony of the “Jewish State” and the “Palestinian State” is that both groups originated from one ancestry group. Much like the Christian biblical story of Cain and Abel, and the Muslim Koran story of the Two Sons of Adam – there continues to be one “brother” willing to kill the other…
The DNA of those claiming Jewish ancestry and those claiming Palestinian ancestry may be shocked to know:
“[...]according to a new scientific study, Jews are the genetic brothers of Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, and they all share a common genetic lineage that stretches back thousands of years.”
“And all have preserved their Middle Eastern genetic roots over 4,000 years”
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/05/000509003653.htm
Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool
Who first occupied the land is actually a moot point – in religions’ evolution, first came the pagan beliefs, then the Jewish faith, followed by Christianity and lastly, the religion of Islam – all groups are predicated on the same genetic pool, and all are entitled to the land they and their ancestors have occupied for at least four thousand years – land for which they have spent years fighting over.
Sandi Saunders:
“I am sorry I will have to miss whatever “wonderful and interesting” came after the needless insult.”
And this is the biggest problem of all with religion; it successfully gets people to resist and pre-judge anything that challenges it.
Justin True:
“So… Until the Loch Ness Monster attains 501c3 status and writes his own supernatural reasoning on why we should worship him and his creator, no comparison here.”
You are on a roll! LOL.
It is more than a little ironic that YOU made that comment John Wilburn, but I will put my willingness to accept and debate “challenges” to my religion against your willingness to accept and debate challenges to your gun worship any day. Pretty sure you won’t win on which is a mental illness either.
Thanks to those of you who made thoughtful comments.
A footnote is required for clarity: The graphics were added by Dan. His maps help to visualize the approximate borders and dates from so many centuries ago, but they are only approximations. This is especially true of the second map, which has serious errors, both in dating and especially on boundaries. For example, the map fails to show Assyria engulfing Samaria. And the Babylonian empire that rose right after Assyria was profoundly larger than shown.
Flo, you do know that Dan chooses to publish others writings right? He isn’t told or forced to do so as far as I know.