Pig in a poke on the Saturday OPEN thread
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“These are bagpipes. I understand the inventor of the bagpipes was inspired when he saw a man carrying an indignant, asthmatic pig under his arm. Unfortunately, the man-made sound never equalled the purity of the sound achieved by the pig.”
Alfred Hitchcock
January 26, 2013 - 9:00 AM
I see from today’s story in the RT that the gun worshipers and their minions in the GA have truly entered the nutter realm. Arrest federal agents, Obama plantation, ordering state employees to possibly hinder federal crime investigations. I’m beginning to think I MIGHT have to buy a gun to protect myself from VCDL and VGOC nut cases.
Nah, I’m kidding about buying my own gun, but Republican-run Virginia is becoming a national joke is so many areas. It’s sad to see what’s happening to my native state.
So Boehner has decided the the GOP’s big goal this year is ending abortion. How useful and likely. And the Republicans accelerate their march to oblivion.
A vote for common sense from the least expected source;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-politics/va-bill-on-electoral-college-change-appears-headed-for-defeat/2013/01/25/75099d7e-6733-11e2-9e1b-07db1d2ccd5b_story.html
A top LEO publicly telling it like it really is.
http://tinyurl.com/acnb8kn
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January 26, 2013
Wis. sheriff: 911 no longer best option
He announced Friday that law enforcement cutbacks have changed the way police can respond to crime
By Amy Forliti
Associated Press
MILWAUKEE, Wis. — A sheriff who released a radio ad urging Milwaukee-area residents to learn to handle firearms so they can defend themselves while waiting for police said Friday that law enforcement cutbacks have changed the way police can respond to crime.
In the 30-second commercial, Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke Jr. says personal safety is no longer a spectator sport.
“I need you in the game,” he says.
“With officers laid off and furloughed, simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option,” he adds. “You can beg for mercy from a violent criminal, hide under the bed, or you can fight back. … Consider taking a certified safety course in handling a firearm so you can defend yourself until we get there.”
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Also check Office of the Sheriff [ http://county.milwaukee.gov/OfficeoftheSheriff7719.htm ] to hear the actual “public safety messages.”
Congratulations, Sheriff Clarke.
Sheesh, gdad,
Don’t you know anything? …it’s the criminals from which you might need a gun to protect yourself, not law-abiding citizens.
I suggest you change your residence to West Virginia, since it’s close by and you can more easily maitain your social ties. Or, better yet for your political ideology, to Washington, DC. Or, Baltimore, MD. Or, Philadelphia, PA. Or, Detroit. Or, LA. Or, Chicago.
Aha! That’s the one! Go west, old man, to Chicago….where you will be able to enjoy the city from out of which sprang your idol.
In Chicago, you will be surrounded by like-minded folks such as your idol’s chief henchman, rahm, and his buddies. Just think, you and the city’s leadership and power-structure will all be on the same page, same paragraph, same sentence…heck, I bet you’ll even fight over the same letter of the same word.
Go there, gdude, where you can help rahm ban guns.
Re: gdad @ 9:38 am
Glad to see that you have finally seen that defensive sidearms have a valid purpose — self-deference. (Or were you envisioning just a nice Bushmaster for home use?) In either case, glad to see that you examined and evaluated of the relevant information as to the tools available for self-preservation and that you selected the best course of action from among various alternatives/tools. In any case, good to see some enlightenment from an unexpected quarter.
Unfortunately, Your risk analysis is significantly flawed, IMHO.
You might want to rethink that part.
Dave Hicks, I don’t worry about criminals posing a threat to me that could be handled with a firearm. To keep my house safe, whether home or not, I keep my doors locked. Ditto my car. I don’t wander down Shenandoah ave at 1am looking for trouble. I have mild concerns over cyber theft or my cc number being lifted in a restaurant, but my homeowners provides riders for that automatically, and I keep an eye on my bank account and statements.
I don’t follow people and pick fights aggressively like Zimmerman. I don’t go around getting in people’s faces, period. At night I try and park in well lit places with plenty of foot traffic. I have lived many places, including manhattan and overseas and never once had a problem or even ever felt significantly threatened. I reject out of hand this notion that we all live 5 or 10 weapons away from murder, rape or mayhem. I worry much more about the prevalence of guns in our society whether owned by “criminals” or “law abiding” (so far) citizens. Because its not the mob or drug dealers going into schools or malls or theaters and shooting people up. The guns used in those crimes came through “law abiding” owners.
“Suzie and the Sockpuppets.” Good name for a garage band.
2.Nah, I’m kidding about buying my own gun, but Republican-run Virginia is becoming a national joke is so many areas. It’s sad to see what’s happening to my native state.
Comment by gdad — January 26, 2013 @ 9:43 am
Laughter, being good for the health of citizens, shall not be infringed.
You may relinquish your citizenship at any time if you want to be an unhappy and disgruntled liberal progressive.
BTW. . .the joke includes a balanced budget, lower than average unemployment and a small surplus in a real bad economy. This comes from leadership with common sense; virtually unknown by liberal progressives.
You might want to rethink that part.
Comment by Dave Hicks — January 26, 2013 @ 12:37 pm
Dave,
You might want to sidestep asking liberal progressives to rethink or even think; such is anathema to the ideology. Lie to them or blame Bush.
Anyone want to make a beer or meal wager on where SCOTUS will come down on these suits?
http://tinyurl.com/aw8n2kc
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A Flood of Suits Fights Coverage of Birth Control
By ETHAN BRONNER
Published: January 26, 2013
In a flood of lawsuits, Roman Catholics, evangelicals and Mennonites are challenging a provision in the new health care law that requires employers to cover birth control in employee health plans — a high-stakes clash between religious freedom and health care access that appears headed to the Supreme Court.
In recent months, federal courts have seen dozens of lawsuits brought not only by religious institutions like Catholic dioceses but also by private employers ranging from a pizza mogul to produce transporters who say the government is forcing them to violate core tenets of their faith. Some have been turned away by judges convinced that access to contraception is a vital health need and a compelling state interest. Others have been told that their beliefs appear to outweigh any state interest and that they may hold off complying with the law until their cases have been judged. New suits are filed nearly weekly.
“This is highly likely to end up at the Supreme Court,” said Douglas Laycock, a law professor at the University of Virginia and one of the country’s top scholars on church-state conflicts. “There are so many cases, and we are already getting strong disagreements among the circuit courts.”
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Maybe the old acronym WYSDWYS needs a corollary acronym WYSDWIIP (Where You Stand Dependents on Whose Pocketbook Is In Play.)
http://tinyurl.com/bdm3hjm
Lawyers for Catholic hospital argue that a fetus is not a person
By Ben Brumfield and Kyung Lah, CNN
updated 8:36 AM EST, Sat January 26, 2013
[video]
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
√ Lori Stodghill and her unborn twins died in the emergency room
√ Colorado courts agreed with the Catholic organization’s defense that the embryos weren’t people
√ Husband Jeremy Stodghill lost the suit but is appealing to Colorado’s Supreme Court
√ The hospital sued him for $118,000 in legal fees
SNIP
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Anyone want to make a beer or meal wager on where SCOTUS will come down on these suits?
Depends on whether Roberts has completely sold his soul in exchange for far-left approval or not. Government coercion of birth control is a total abomination. I have been disappointed at Catholics’ level of engagement while our rights are trampled. I honestly fear for the future of this country if we continue offending God.
We’re in town, btw.
Hi folks,
Sometimes, things just work out for the best. Ken Cuccinelli saves the day!
http://blogs.nbc12.com/decisionvirginia/2013/01/cuccinelli-helps-truck-driver-escape-burning-rig.html
http://blogs.nbc12.com/decisionvirginia/2013/01/cuccinelli-helps-truck-driver-escape-burning-rig.html
In what context is having your car catch on fire “for the best”,Frank?
Kristen @ 1:21 pm
Sounds as if you are taking some reasonable precautions. But, why, if things are so safe?
Re: “I have lived many places, including manhattan and overseas and never once had a problem or even ever felt significantly threatened.” Why wait for the first time to be a game changer?
Wasn’t Sandy Hook billed as a good safe neighborhood?
http://tinyurl.com/cv6q5zy
Sandy Hook is made for an idyllic childhood
SNIP
It’s inconceivable that in such a scenic and serene place that someone could conceive of something like this,” said Magda Szabo, who lives around the corner from the Lanzas but never met them. “It’s safe here, very family-oriented, friendly.”
SNIP
“We selected the community because of the school system and what it offered,” he said. “We never worried about safety. We’ve had one homicide in a decade.”
SNIP
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How ofter have you have seen a news broadcast or an article where a dumbfounded neighbor exclaims “I don’t understand. We live in a nice neighborhood”?
Sheesh, Kristen.
Ok. I’ll ‘splain it to you, Kristen, ’cause you can’t listen or read, apparantly. And Kristen, it was a tractor-trailor, not a car. Now, please follow along real careful like…
Ken Cuccinnelli stopped a potential catastrophe from happening. He and his driver noticed a tractor-trailor rolling along I-64 with burning rear tires, alerted the driver, got her out of the rig, put out the fire, and saved a tractor-trailor from becoming more of a potential death trap, and potentially causing a horrific wreck which could have taken taken or mained innocent lives, and caused all kinds of property damage.
Whew!
hey frank, all he did was shout out of the window of a moving car and then assisted a mentally deficient person from a truck; it’s not like he provided anything heroic like getting 33 million people covered with decent health insurance, saved half a million people from bankruptcy, killed Osama bin Laden or ended two wars or anything.
Jeez, your standards for “Saving the day” are awfully low; compared to this piker President Obama is superman.
Concealed Carry Goes Wrong in Lenexa Restaurant
Man with valid gun permit accidentally shoots his wife. Officials are reviewing the case
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/08/4000708/officials-review-accidental-shooting.html#storylink=cpy
figures, steve c,
…you run down female truck drivers…why is that?
you don’t much respect females, do you, steve c? it figures that a lib like you, steve c, dislikes females, particluarly female truck drivers, for some reason. hmmm, i know. it’s that monica-jealosy thingy, isn’t it?
It just depends on how long it would have taken the trucker to notice his truck was on fire. At the time Cooch noticed it, the danger was minimal.
Leon joking about people who can’t think? Snicker, snicker.
As you should know, Leon, Virginia’s “balanced” budget and “surplus” under McD have been mostly smoke and mirrors and kicking important obligations down the road. Not something to be proud of. If you’re unaware of this, then you’re even less well-informed than I thought.
Now, do you really want a list of the clownish things state Repubs have either done or proposed doing? Nah. You should be able to look them up yourself.
Dan, we ate at Angelo’s for the first time today. Yummy! Had the steak tacos.
Frank,
These people don’t have any heroes from their side, so you would expect them to trash real ones.
Sorry for the iPhone posting fail!
What I was saying was: Robert Reich breaks it down for us:
http://robertreich.org/post/41395861898
“Jeez, your standards for “Saving the day” are awfully low”
Best comment ever from the NBC12 blog “He’s still two fires short of Corey Booker.”
“Suzie and the Sockpuppets.” Good name for a garage band.
I’m flattered you think I am these guys.
Frank and Applewood offer wit and a fresh perspective to the blog. They also rock with the way they make their great points unapologetically and irreverently.
“We’re in town, btw.”
I’m setting up a press conference.
Man with valid gun permit accidentally shoots his wife. Officials are reviewing the case
Awwwwwwwwwwwwww . . . sugar. Stuff happens! If hubby hadn’t had that pistol in his pocket, who knows? A bunch of Hells Angels might have visited the place and gang raped her on the salad bar.
As it was, she merely got shot in the knee. The lady should count her blessings!
“Dan, we ate at Angelo’s for the first time today. Yummy! Had the steak tacos.”
–Comment by gdad
The greatest dive/hole-in-the-wall restaurant in the Roanoke Valley, by far. The steak tacos ($11) are to die for. His hamburgers (his beef is not ground; he chops it with his big knife, mostly in advance) are the biggest in the Roanoke Valley — AT least 1/2 a pound — and they’re $4 (served with his home-fried potatoes) unless you want bacon and cheese in which case they’re $5.50.
But don’t go there if you’re in a hurry! Angelo is the king of slow, and fresh, food. If you want it fast, as Angelo says, “Go to Taco Hell!”
“Frank and Applewood offer wit and a fresh perspective to the blog.”
Curious, I mentioned no names. Isn’t it past your bedtime?
“Frank and Applewood offer wit and a fresh perspective to the blog.”
suzie, the blog has already had its share of right-wing trolls who make up things and then ignore people when they’re proven wrong or who simply blindly shout “LIAR.” You’re one of them.
Now that you’ve shown up to prop them up again, Frank and apple know they’re really in trouble.
Good point, Art, you could have been talking about any number of “people.”
Busted.
Sorry for the iPhone posting fail!
What I was saying was: Robert Reich breaks it down for us:
http://robertreich.org/post/41395861898
Comment by Lori — January 26, 2013 @ 9:37 pm
Reich is a constant, informed source, and again, he shines the bright light of reality on the income and wealth disparity in this country. The fervency of conservatives regarding the “need” to cut (not so subtle code for abolish) Social Security and Medicare is only rivaled by their fervency against the equal rights movement. That both are pillars of the conservative movement is telling. There will always be wealthy people and poor people. I get that. What I don’t get is the penchant of the conservative movement to flog the poor, and now the middle class, with the whip of poverty.
Great link, Lori!
“Best comment ever from the NBC12 blog “He’s still two fires short of Corey Booker.””
But still one ahead of Terry McClf.
Hi folks,
It’s been an interesting couple of days, to say the least. Consider the following:
1. ol’ dano has compared applewood to “Mao, Stalin, and Fidel…”
Seriously…?
2. J.M. White has retorted, in his own inimitable way, “I’m neither reading nor replying to any comment of yours anymore that starts with “hey”…I invite the rest of the blog to do the same.”
Looks like J.M. is desperately seeking to be the blog’s official …”shunner-in-chief”.
3. And, steve c, in response to my note (and link) to Ken Cuccinelli’s quick action on I-64 recently, had this to say….about the truck driver: “hey frank, all he did was shout out of the window of a moving car and then assisted a …mentally deficient person… from a truck…”
Yep, steve c labeled the truck driver as “mentally deficient.” Based on what?
Well, let’s walk through the possibilities…hmmm, well, the driver is a woman…
Well, the driver’s truck had Kentucky license plates…
Well, that’s about all we know about the woman truck driver. But steve c has branded the lucky lady as being “mentally deficient”.
And, none of you libs…and more specifically, none of you women libs, raised any objection to steve c’s post. Would that be because you all agree with him?
Yeah boy! It’s been a good couple of days!
Anybody want to see the difference between normal people and conservatives? Here’s a pretty clear indicator;
I posted the following sentence at 4:55; “hey frank, all he did was shout out of the window of a moving car and then assisted a mentally deficient person from a truck”.
From this nonspecific sentence hey frank was somehow able to extrapolate the following poorly structured and grammatically incorrect barrage against the logic standards we expect of fifth graders;
“figures, steve c,
…you run down female truck drivers…why is that?
you don’t much respect females, do you, steve c? it figures that a lib like you, steve c, dislikes females, particluarly female truck drivers, for some reason. hmmm, i know. it’s that monica-jealosy thingy, isn’t it?”
Comment by Frank — January 26, 2013 @ 6:26 pm
Good God! Does anyone still wonder why I enjoy pummeling stupid people so much? If IQ tests were required to surf the series of tubes also known as the internets, hey frank would be stuck over at the Sesame Street website being ridiculed be eight year olds.
hey frank, to illustrate how badly you truly suck at the internet thing, copy and paste your own post into MS Word and prepare to have your senses assaulted by the explosion of red and green underlined words that leap off the screen into your retinas. You made enough errors in one single paragraph to cause a seizure in an unsuspecting reader. And it’s not that you just suck, hey frank, it’s that you carelessly butcher your native tongue and yet you somehow think you are being witty while doing it. Why anyone would want to present an image of an uneducated hick is beyond me but by all means feel free to run with it if you think it works for you.
#38 Ho hum. Yawn.
Hi Frank! I like “hi” much better. It doesn’t have that whole drunken hillbilly ring to it. I’ve noticed you dropped the “hey” thing since my comment and I thank you sincerely. I’d like to address part of your comment. That is, I assume, why you posted it.
1) Dan compared the looks of Mao, Stalin and Fidel to a box of bunnies. I compared applewood’s level of “scariness” to a box of bunnies. The comparison of applewood to the men Dan mentioned is your own abstract deduction from those two independent comparisons. It is impossible to compare the physical looks of people to the intimidation level of a faceless internet persona. applewood is nothing more than ones and zeroes. Mao, Stalin and Fidel are real figures with real faces and real names. You fell into a literary logical trap, whether Dan set it intentionally or not. You drew the wrong conclusion, my friend.
2) I hereby [desperately] accept your nomination for shunner-in-chief. I’ve always wanted to seize the reins of exclusionary power and now that you’ve given me your esteemed endorsement, this is my chance. And since wayne goodman was the only other person who accepted my invitation, he will be my VP if he will accept the position. I promise you, the bloggers, that we will lead with integrity, honor and intolerance of all forms of annoyance and intentional ignorance. Our Executive Edicts of Excommunication will bring this blog back to the high standards of discourse we’ve come to expect. Thank you for your faith in me, Frank. I won’t let you or the people down.
White/Goodman ’13
“23.It just depends on how long it would have taken the trucker to notice his truck was on fire.”
Ideally, not too long. My car has indicator lights and sounds that let me know things a lot less worrisome than its being in flames.
You are most welcome, J.M.
Now, please bear in mind, there are lots of salutations other than your preferred favorite. “Hola”, “greetings”, and “yo” come to mind, right off the bat. And, anyone of them, including my new all-time favorite of “hey”, or even “hey there” might reappear at any time, without notice.
On a more serious note, I notice that you left off any explanation for what your lib-comrade-buddy good ol’ steve c had to say about that lady truck driver, who was driving the truck that our AG recognized had some burning rear tires. Let’s see…he called her, “mentally deficient”….did I get that right?
Since your silence is deafening on ol’ steve c’s’ lamentable characterization of a truck driver he couldn’t possibly know anything more about than those of us who read the news reports….well, sheesh, J.M., why do ya think ol’ stve c has it out for truck drivers, or female truck drivers…or, is he just nasty in general? Do ya think steve c’s animosity toward her is because maybe Steve c lost his job as a truck driver, to a female?
You realize, of course, that steve c tries to emulate your style and grace when posting, except his posts most often come across as mean-spirited and nasty, while your’s come across as just being from someone who’s gumpy, and might have had a bad day to boot.
So, what do ya think of ol’ lib-steve c’s mean-spirited and nasty salvo fired at that poor woman truck driver?
“I honestly fear for the future of this country if we continue offending God.”
Do you consider this Catholic hospital’s actions an offense to God?
http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1863013?articlePage=1
hey steve c,
Thank you for calling upon me to explain myself for saying what you said about the woman truck driver. You said EXACTLY, to wit:
“hey frank, all he did was shout out the window of a moving car, and then assisted…” wait for it, wait for it, ok, here it is, “…a…mentally deficient…person…from a truck”.
Now, steve c, I don’t know what you have against women truck drivers. You specifically called that one, “mentally deficient”, based on nothing apparant to anyone else. So, that leaves the whole issue concerning why you chose to pick on that woman truck driver, open for debate. To start the debate, I posited that perhaps you didn’t much like women…or maybe it all goes back to that monica-thingy you’ve had such a cow about lately. I’m curious…why did ya say that mean-spirited, nasty thing about that fortunate woman truck driver, eh?
Hey! I know!
Hey dano, why don’t you write a HUGE column ‘splaining what ol’ steve c really meant when he called that woman truck driver, “mentally deficient”?
Hum?
I see that gdad (@ 12:21 pm) did a “Yawn.”
Cue up Warren’s caustic criticism / attack of gdad.
After all Warren is intellectually consistent.
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If anyone on the board is fluent in heyfrankese, please decipher his twisted gibberish in #45 and let me know what point he’s trying to communicate. I honestly have no idea what he’s attempting to say or why he’s butchering the English language. I’m guessing hey frank’s parents let him play with mercury when he was a tyke.
Frank: I think that it’s obvious from Steve C’s comments that he not only hates truck drivers, he also hates women. Of course, this is compounded into rage that explodes from within when he encounters even the mere mention of women truck drivers. I do not know from whence his anger at combinations of two or more things came. I have it on good authority that he also hates gypsy cowboys, civilian military advisors, fuel-air bombs and sporks. Those things infuriate him so greatly that he explodes with force and pure malice upon his keyboard, releasing his bitter bile in a paroxysm of prose, parody and satire.
In all, it should be obvious to anyone with a full-frontal lobotomy that Steve C is filled with malevolence and, dare I say it, pure evil. I wish there was something I could do, but the last time I tried to talk to him about his behavior, I ended up apologizing and taking him and his extended family on a cruise to Puerto Vallarta on my dime. I don’t even know how it happened. The man has a way with words.
You’re welcome to try to convince him to change his behavior yourself, if you wish, but take your wallet, your toothbrush and a change of clothes.
I think we can all agree that a spork will take even the most mild mannered person over the edge and into the realm of true malevolence. I hear President Obama wants to make the plastic spork the official cutlery of the Unites States.
I didn’t actually read this anywhere, and I don’t know if its true, but it sounds just like the kind of anti american thing a small headed, Islamic, commmie-socialist would do, so it probably is true.
What the hell are you talking about, Dave H?
THERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE DAMN SPORKS!!!
Well, heck J.M., it appears to me that you’re being a little tough on poor ol’ steve c.
I mean, all he has done, for no reason, is demean a woman, and a truck driver, …and you make him out to be some despicable excuse for a human being….one that even you can’t help.
Well, the combination of “woman” with “truck driver”….whose name is probably “Monica”, ….and poor ol’ steve c gets in a pretty bad way.
Poor guy.
Why did Steve C call the truck drive mentally deficient? I don’t know. I also don’t know why you think your knee pad comments are funny, Frank.
Howdy Mike Scott, how YOU doin’?
By the way, I wonder what Muller thinks of Sporks? Maybe I’ll come across it on his web-site.
And, according to Muller’s Theorem No. 36, “The trick to learning is enjoying.” I’m having a blast with his web-site.
Thank you, again.
That should be, driver.
Frank
What is it with the knee pads, anyway? I keep seeing you post that as some pejorative term, but I’m not quite following what point you are trying to make.
hey frank, read your own damn link before you ask me anymore stupid questions.
Hi Mike Scott,
Thanks for asking. Actually, Steve C would be the best person to explain the knee-pads.
All I can say is, whenever I bring up bill clinton and what he so directly lied to the American people about…well, ol’ steve c gets all up in a tizzy. …makes me think he REALLY likes ol’ bill, and might harbor some jealosy…
Re: gdad @ 4:51 pm
Hum?
Did you miss Warren’s proclamation that anyone who uses “yawn” on a blog is suffering from a lack of oxygen to the brain?
Couple that with his assurance that it is intellectually dishonest for anyone not attack other folk on the same side on an issue as that poster.
Of course I think he is wrong on both counts — and for that matter on other issues.
I do believe that I fully understood what you intended.
So, I was just speculating on when Warren was going to denounce you for the (IMHO) appropriate use of “yarn.”
Why are they called sporks, and not foons?
hiya, steve c.
I follwed your request, and re-read the link I posted earlier today.
For the life of me, I see nothing in that post which could lead any rational person to come up with the the idea that the truck driver was “mentally deficient” in any way.
To pursue that point even further, no one else on this thread has gone down the road you have, which is to unceremoniously call into question the mental acuity of the female truck driver.
Why did you label her as being “mentally deficient”?
Do you have supernatural mental assessment powers, or something?
Please explain.
hey frank, you crack me up! There are two reasons I referred to the driver as mentally deficient. The first is really obvious and if you reread your own link and still can’t figure it out you’re own your on. I don’t know, maybe you just need to read slower or have an adult explain it to you. The second reason is because I knew if I posted something you couldn’t figure out it would just drive you crazy (go figure!), and I enjoy toying with mentally deficient half- wits.
Your private battle with comprehensive is yours alone. I’ve got better things to do than spoon feed simpletons what would be painfully obvious to a third grader. Now stop asking me questions unless I first address you specifically; I’m allergic to simps and you’re making me break out. Now kindly shut your pie hole and stop bothering me.
Good question, Contra.
I bet J.M. White knows…
Did you miss Warren’s proclamation that anyone who uses “yawn” on a blog is suffering from a lack of oxygen to the brain”
comment by Dave Hicks
Patently false, Dave Hicks. I believe what I said about one of your posted “yawns” was that since yawns are indicative of a lack of oxygen to the brain, that it might have accounted for that particular post of yours. But I don’t think I’ve ever said it applies to “anyone who uses” it. That echoes your broad claim that “all” who support massacre control measures see “gun control” as a “perfect solution”, which when called to give evidence for, you impersonated a cricket.
Similarly, it’s a misrepresentation to suggest that I think it’s “intellectually dishonest for anyone not attack other folk on the same side on an issue as that poster”. I do specifically suggest that when you don’t do so given your efforts to be seen as a strictly rational and even handed thinker, you’re being intellectually disingenous. A specific recent example is avoiding the question about the NRA hiring a violent image peddler despite blaming violence in media, and of course the explanation for how guns save lives if they don’t take them.
As for myself, on various topics I’ve argued nuances that differ from those who broadly agree with me, and I’ve specifically said that anyone who claims that all guns should be banned or confiscated is not only wrong, but unrealistic. That’s the salient example on the only topic where I recall criticizing your selectivity, guns.
Your selectivity’s made more grievous, and thus worthy of criticism, because of your frequent pretentious lecturing of others about logic. All you accomplish is to make you seem as though you esteem your own logical ability to persuade others above the millenia of evidence on human nature that shows that logic is necessary but not sufficient in persuading minds to change. In that sense, besides casting you in a naive light, your use of H in IMHO can seem quite insincere.
FWIW, I also know that there are situations when NO ONE’S mileage will vary, when parameters are fixed, yet there have seemed to have been such times where you’ve nevertheless used “as always YMMV”. “As always” is what you think, because you say it, frequently. “Always varies”. But one can excuse your habitual use of “as always YMMV” as simply lazy posting in the light of how much cut and pasting and acronym use you also employ.
But back to the use of yawn. When the meta-subject is people slaughtered by guns, I can’t think of yawn ever being appropriate. You’ve proven that you do. So we differ on that.
More Americans, our neighbors, will be murdered with guns tonight, one of us will yawn, and it won’t be me.
holy cow, steve c.
yep. that’s it. you said the truck driver was “mentally deficient”……because……you were “toying with me.” Uh…huh.
Well, sheesh. i guess i’ve been…foiled…by that dastardly steve c.
…and, for your, …ah, “victory”, …go treat yourself to a fresh pair of knee-pads.
Oh. One more thing. when one spoon feeds simpletons, does one use a spork or a foon?
Re: Warren @ 9:33 pm
Yawn….
#66: Dave Hicks @ 12:18m:
I give a full, thoughtful and sincere response to the self-declared Mr. Honest Debate, and his response is “yawn”.
When Dave Hicks yawns, it’s a sure sign he knows his mileage is starting to vary.
JM White @ 12:48
I would be pleased to accept the post as your VP with one stipulation. That would be that you make SteveC your chief of staff. I of course would be unable to match the eloquence or ability to turn a phrase that the two of you bring to the table. At my advanced age and condition, what I bring is the wisdom born of long years of experience and observation of fools
and simpletons.
Speaking of Frank, I’m afraid that I can’t quite share your optimism that
converting his persona from hey Frank to hi Frank will turn out to be a meaningful shift. To me, it seems to be more of the recent strategy adopted by many leading spokespersons for the GOP. It’s the “we’ve got to stop saying stupid things so people will like us better” syndrome. Note that this strategy ignores the fact that they BELIEVE those stupid things
but just that they got to stop SAYING them. Actually this fits more with the philosophy of their erstwhile queen Sarah Palin, who I believe became famous for talking about putting lipstick on a pig. In Frank’s case I’m sorry to say that in the end, all that’s left is still a pig.
Let me end this little acceptance speech with a little defense of our compatriot, SteveC, though he is more than capable of defending himself.
In the matter of Frank’s little ocd attack, repeated ad infinitum (as usual} re: cslling a woman mentally deficient:
Frank:
3. And, steve c, in response to my note (and link) to Ken Cuccinelli’s quick action on I-64 recently, had this to say….about the truck driver: “hey frank, all he did was shout out of the window of a moving car and then assisted a …mentally deficient person… from a truck…”
Yep, steve c labeled the truck driver as “mentally deficient.” Based on what?
Well, let’s walk through the possibilities…hmmm, well, the driver is a woman…
Well, the driver’s truck had Kentucky license plates”
Frank as usual, completely misses the important fact here, that the truck had Kentucky license plates. So if you please, Frank, let’s clear that one up for you
The citizens of Kentucky, by a strong majority, have elected two U.S. Senators. They are Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul. There could be no greater proof of mental deficiency than electing two such troglodytes to the Senate. Thus, by the law of associative properties, since a majority
of Kentuckians voted for this pair, then the majority of Kentuckians are mentally deficient. Therefore the odds are significant that the driver of the truck with Kentucky plates is/was mentally deficient. Besides, the damn truck was on fire and the driver didn’t even know it.
I trust this clears up that little matter for Frank, who truly seems to have problems with anything requiring simple logic.
Thanks for the vote of confidence JM. Stay thirsty my friend!
Warren:
“More Americans, our neighbors, will be murdered with guns tonight, one of us will yawn, and it won’t be me.”
Actually, two of us will….
Yawn….
“Frank as usual, completely misses the important fact here, that the truck had Kentucky license plates. So if you please, Frank, let’s clear that one up for you
The citizens of Kentucky, by a strong majority, have elected two U.S. Senators. They are Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul. There could be no greater proof of mental deficiency than electing two such troglodytes to the Senate.”
And before Rand Paul they elected Jim Bunning!
stevie baby, obama didnt kill bin laden, a Navy Seal did that dear..and ” covered with decent health insurance, “…lol boy are you ignorant, have you read this piece of commie cow dung? probably not. but it came with the koolaid so you like it huh?
..oops, meant to say ‘ it came with FREE koolaid’….
John, also thousands of unborn children will get aborted in the next few days and you dont see them whining about that do you !
Rand Paul has it all over you danny, you could win in a debate with him if your life depended upon it..jealous are you..lol…metal deficiency is voting for a lying commie lunatic, twice !!!
should be mental deficiency..metal-mental, wouldnt really matter in dannys case
Course the Creation Museum is also in Kentucky….and the state has put some support behind the mother of all follies “Ark Adventure”, a large scale amusement park dedicated to the accuracy and truth of Noah’s great adventure.
And Frank, are you really sure yo want me to ask Steve what you mean?
Howdy, you libs!
“Heerrreee we come, to save the dayyyy!!”, sing all the libs as they FINALLY decide that they need to rescue their pet, ol’ steve c!
You good folks have let your faithful pet, steve c …wallow… in his …discontent… for far too long, for no good reason, except you did find his remarks about the woman truck driver a little tasteful…even for you hypocrits. So, you watch him wallow, and flop around, and flounder some more until y’all just had to throw him a bone.
Well , steve c is grateful, no doubt, ’cause he was starting to take on even more of the persona of that lip-sticked pig ol’ wayne was mentioning.
Sheesh, after all, steve c is the pet of the libs on this blog, and what better pet to have than a pig with lip-sticked lips.
This has been fun!
Howdy Mike Scott,
…if you want to continue the line which this thread has been following, please do, sir!
“you could win in a debate with him if your life depended upon it”
Comment by pammala — January 28, 2013 @ 5:57 am
I agree with her, Dan. You could win in a debate with him.
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Someone’s crack pipe runneth over.
Curious, I mentioned no names.
Right, but Frank, Applewood, and Leon were the only intelligent ones posting here up to that time. So if not them, who are you accusing me of proxying for?
On second look, the people who had posted by the time Art Hill accused me for proxying for posters on this thread were Gdad, Kristen, Steve, C, Dave Hicks, and Frank.
So Art says he wasn’t talking about Frank, therefore he’s accusing me of being one of those libs mentioned.
Funny.
“Did you miss Warren’s proclamation that anyone who uses “yawn” on a blog is suffering from a lack of oxygen to the brain?”
Why, yes, Dave H, in fact I did miss that. However, I was yawning because Frank was once again repeating brainless, inane, confused, or disproven claptrap.
I bet J.M. White knows…
Comment by Frank — January 27, 2013 @ 9:29 pm
As a matter of fact, I do! And what I didn’t know off-hand, I summoned the knowledge through an ancient ritual known as the “elgooG fo rewoP”.
It can be called a spork or a foon, depending on preference. It’s a common usage issue and spork seems to have won the battle. Personally, I think it’s more phonetically pleasing.
What’s really gonna blow your freakin’ mind is that there are also knorks, spives, sporfs and, wait for it… chorks ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chork )!
#82 “On second look, the people who had posted by the time Art Hill accused me for proxying for posters on this thread…”
Funny thing, suzie, I don’t see where Art Hill indicated he was even talking about this thread. You know it’s an open thread where you can bring up anything you want. But after his comment you just brought Frank and applewood into it for some reason. Hmmm.
Comment by wayne goodman — January 28, 2013 @ 1:13 am
You flatter me too much and I want you aboard precisely for the wisdom you bring to the shunning table. I agree to your stipulation, pending Steve C’s agreement to our agreed upon agreement, of course.
I don’t share your pessimism concerning Frank, because I know that he’s not as foolish as he plays himself to be. I still believe that we can encourage him to choose a different, more intelligent and possibly decipherable path of annoying the other Gonzos. I give up on no one, not even Frank.
As shunner-in-chief, I will be a uniter, not a divider. Well… yeah, I mean, I’ll have to do a little paring occasionally or there really won’t be any “shunning” and I have no intention of being an ineffectual shunner-in-chief. I promise to break through the wall of this bitter partisan shunning that has divided us and get this Shunning Train back on track. In my first term in office (not that I ever plan to relinquish my power, naturally), I’ll make sure we get back to the business of shunning as a blog, indivisible (again, except for those we shun). Let’s get back to shunning done right.
White/Goodman ’13
In my first term in office (not that I ever plan to relinquish my power, naturally), I’ll make sure we get back to the business of shunning as a blog, indivisible (again, except for those we shun). Let’s get back to shunning done right.
White/Goodman ’13
Comment by J.M. White — January 28, 2013 @ 11:28 am
Ah! I see. So you plan to be a shunner in the established tradition of Bob Goodlatte. I have no problem with that since I have no ambition to become the chief shunner some day. However, maybe SteveC should speak for himself on the issue of term limitations. It is also my impression that the shunners eschewed the use of trains in favor of good old fashioned horse and buggy technology. So I take it we are to be the modern up dated,
technologically advanced version of the shunning party. Does that mean we get to use electricity if we can afford it? I’m not sure what the point has been of this response to you but considering his usual lack of clarity, maybe Frank can figure it out for us. As I proof read it, it seems to one of his kind of posts.
Hay, J.M., and Wayne,
J.M., I new you wouldn’t let me down. From now on, when you’re done, you can stick a chork in it.
And, I’m impressed that you are a student of the “ancient ritual”, which some of us know by it’s original name of “U!!rfohahaBS,dnaMRe!”.
I’m proud of you, J.M.
And Hay Wayne,
Absolutely no electricity, unless you can tap into someone else’s meter. You’ve got to keep expenses down. Plus, it makes it a little easier to fly under the radar if you stay off the grid. Plus 1, you can sneak up on’em better that way as well. If you need to communicate, you should consider using smoke signals…at night. They’ll never expect you to do that, anyway. They’ll never see youse guys coming.
Make sure you keep steve c well fed with east NC Que…along with all the stories you can think up about bill clinton’s happily married life…and, he won’t be any trouble.
With that, I think I’ll stick a chork in it.
“Funny.”
You’re incapable of praise. Busted.
. But after his comment you just brought Frank and applewood into it for some reason. Hmmm.
OK, so again, if it wasn’t them, who was it?
lol @ the tail-chasers.
How would I know, suzie? I didn’t make the comment.
J.M. White and Wayne,
I am humbled by your nomination and accept, secure in the knowledge that I am the youngest of the three and if I stay true to my Machiavellian principles I can ride it out for a couple of years before assuming my destiny and subsequent reign of terror. Until that day arrives I promise I’ll be the sterling example of John Bolton’s kiss up, kick down model of executive leadership.
I apologize for the delay but I’m getting spanked at work; got there at 7am and left at 10:30pm all while suffering a bleeding stomach ulcer.