R.I.P. Earl Weaver
Former Baltimore Orioles manager Earl Weaver died on Saturday. In a phone conversation Sunday, Mark Jurkevich reminded me of the eyebrow-raising moment below. RIP Earl (NSFW)
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Tuesday, May 21, 2013
THE ROANOKE TIMES
Earl Weaver was awesome. May there be at least one umpire in heaven upon which you may kick dust.
R.I.P., buddy.
Yes, rest in peace, Earl Weaver. Now, my last and very last post on this ridiculous blog:
Violence breeds violence
Comtempt breeds comtempt
Ignorance breeds ignorance
Nacissity breeds narcissity
Impotence breeds impotense
Non-substinance breeds non-substinance
Knee pads breeds the need for more knee pads
Obama lemmings breed more lemmings
Agnostic/atheists breed more agnostic/atheists
Ignorant statements breed more ignorant statements
98% of all posters on this blog breed all of the above
Dan Casey breeds uh….hmmmm….geee…oh yea, NOTHING!
Maybe the government might want to look once more at the first amendment a little closer instead of trying to trash all the others.
And a fond fair well to the other 2% (Hope I’ve made the 98% happy now, or gay, depending how you define it.)
Earl was a classic. He will likely be remembered largely for his volatile outbursts with umpires, but he was certainly one of the best managers ever. His Orioles of the 1960s and early 1970s were dominant (except, of course, for my Miracle Mets of 1969).
in the afterlife, if Weaver finds himself amongst nothing but unpires, he’ll know where he is, and he’ll know what he’s there for.
smart manager, scourge of unpires.
See ya’, blobcat. Course, if you’re anything like suzie…
Good old Earl.
“Nacissity breeds narcissity
Impotence breeds impotense
Non-substinance breeds non-substinance”
Please don’t leave, AncientBobcat.
Thanks Dan
Brings back great memories
This clip is an example of great managing? He didn’t even address the balk call. All he did was stupid profane showboating crap.
The Orioles of the 60s and 70s was a well-run organization with great players. They won despite Weaver.
Umm, troll suzie, I defy you to point where anybody here claimed this video is an example of great managing (although Earl’s outbursts certainly earned him some calls over the years). Great managing is pretty boring to watch and not generally caught on video so we watch the stuff that IS entertaining. And guess what? Even if he had addressed the call, the ump wouldn’t have changed anything.
Here’s more of the classless Earl Weaver. Great role model.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-6RYPRlqZk
Ancient Bobcat:
“Now, my last and very last post on this ridiculous blog”
Man, I’m going to miss that blog handle.
Liberals here laud Earl Weaver who said some really nasty misogynistic things in the interview I just posted. But it was a joke, right?
I like the Orioles. The’re my AL team with the Reds my NL team favorite. I was looking up info on Jim Palmer who was the star of the Orioles in the 70′s and came across a payroll list. These guys played for love of the game and not for the money. Check this out:
1978 Baltimore Orioles
Salaries
Jim Palmer $250,000.00
Al Bumbry $65,000.00
Rich Dauer $21,000.00
Mike Dimmel $21,000.00
John Flinn $21,000.00
Dave Ford $21,000.00
Kiko Garcia $21,000.00
Joe Kerrigan $21,000.00
Carlos Lopez $21,000.00
Dennis Martinez $21,000.00
Scott McGregor $21,000.00
Andres Mora $21,000.00
Eddie Murray $21,000.00
Gary Roenicke $21,000.00
Dave Skaggs $21,000.00
Sammy Stewart $21,000.00
Even in 1978 21k was not a lot of money.
Anyway, RIP Earl Weaver. You will be missed.
“On my tombstone just write, ‘The sorest loser that ever lived.’”
-Earl Weaver
Classless:
Earl Weaver’s interview
and
attempting to smear a dead man who has yet to be buried.
Thanks for the object lesson, Suzie. The ol’ Double Whammy, eh? We here at the Liberal Subjugation Front are quite amazed at how you’re really taking those Alinsky lessons to heart. We mean it; you’re really running with this thing. Bagging on a barely dead baseball manager… that’s a nice touch. If Saul could see this right now, I bet a tear would stream down his cheek. Thank you for you continued support of the LSF.
Cold,
Eddie Murray and Scott McGregor were pulling down only $21k in ’78? Seems hard to believe. . .the average player salary was $97,800 that year.
Eddie Murray absolutely smashed a 2-run homer into the upper deck during a late summer game (I don’t remember what year or even if it was in Baltimore). I just remember that it was caught barehanded by the dude two seats down from me and I thought that was the coolest thing I’d ever seen, considering the speed at which the ball was still traveling. I miss baseball so much.
Here’s the site I pulled the numbers from:
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/roster.php?y=1978&t=BAL
I also came up with this link that shows Eddie Murray making 19k in 1977 his rookie year but the link does not give a salary for 1978. By 1985 he was pulling down 1.4 mil. These years must have been around the time players started getting paid big time.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/murraed02.shtml
BTW the Orioles got a Rookie of the Year in for that 19k. In ’78 MVP and All star, Murray receiving the 8th most votes. Not bad.
The minimum starting salary for a baseball player in 1978 was, guess what? $21,000.
http://www.baseballfarming.com/MajorLeagueBaseball.html
Man, $21,000 was low!
Btw, welcome back, Cold!
Power out for 4 days. Back on today. Funny, just didn’t seem to be that bad of a storm. I bet we see a rate increase request within the next 6 weeks.
I’m not sure about those 21K salaries in 1978, but remember that salaries began to expand rapidly about ’78 due to one of Weaver’s greatest pitchers, Dave McNally. After Curt Flood’s pioneering reserve clause suit, McNally lent his eligibility to another reserve clause challenge that ended the one year reserve policy that had survived Flood’s suit.
McNally and Andy Messerschmidt won a grievance arbitration in 1975 that ended the one year reserve, opening the door to true free agency. With many contracts already in place, and initial owner reluctance to start bidding wars, it took several years and superstar free agencies before it started to impact overall salaries for all players.
Ironically, while McNally retired and didn’t benefit from his role, the Orioles were also involved in the next big free agency development. They acquired Reggie Jackson by trade in 1976 when cheapo A’s owner Charlie Finley wouldn’t pay more, and after playing out his option year for the O’s in ’76, Jackson signed a huge (for the time) contract with the Yankees in ’77.
So 1978 was a real transition time in player salary levels, as older contracts expired, option years were played out, and owners led by Steinbrenner began opening the vault for even non-superstar free agents. I guess therefore it’s possible that some of those seemingly low 1978 salaries are accurate.
As for McNally, he was every bit the pitcher that Jim Palmer was, but less mediagenic and left the spotlight after retirement, so that may be why he’s less remembered than Palmer today. But they outdueled the Koufax/Drysdale Dodgers in the ’66 Series, and although I’d been a Tigers fan in the late 60′s, the ’71 Orioles was a Weaver team I really came to like: Frank Robinson, Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell, McNally, Palmer, Mike Cueller, Dave Baylor, Paul Blair, etc. Only steroidal Roger Clemens has ever won as many games in a row as McNally.
Anyway, that’s what came to mind for me when the topic of salaries and the O’s came up.
Bagging on a barely dead baseball manager… that’s a nice touch.
I just played back Earl’s own profane words. If you think they reflect badly on him, who’s that on? Not me.
Oh, the sweet irony of Suzie criticizing anyone for being misogynistic! And Suzie, if you think Earl’s tirades were just a function of his temper, you are sadly mistaken. As gdad noted, those tirades earned his Orioles some favor, and he well knew how to push the emotional buttons of his team. Come to think of it, you and Earl are a lot alike in that regard. You do revel in being a button pusher, don’t you?
Now, J. M. White, is there a simple online test to get my LSF permit?
Oh, you’ve been in our system for quite some time, Mr. Perdue. We’ve only been waiting for your request to join. I’ll have your membership package delivered to you shortly. Don’t worry. We’ll know where you are. We always do.
The LSF is a voluntary organization, but our training methods have been so successful that many of our known members have yet to officially join. These agents, while not officially sanctioned by the LSF, operate within our Alinskian Protocol Division as sleepers. The APD is responsible for the bulk of our recruiting these days.
I’m sure you have more questions, so I’ve dispatched a liason with your membership package and she is authorized to fully brief you. She should be there right about… now. Her name is Cathy. Welcome to the team.
Gosh, suzie’s offended by some of the very same words she’s used on this blog.
Just remember Suzie, you set the bar for judging a man’s life by his “own profane words”.
Leftwingers comparing my language ( which was within the blog’s rules) to the unprintable anti-woman garbage spouted by their icon, Earl Weaver? That’s laughable.
Looks like my links pretty much closed down the Earl Weaver is God thread.
“Leftwingers comparing my language ( which was within the blog’s rules) t”
Oh, you mean the language that’s gotten more of your posts deleted than any other poster?