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Some more answers to Rep. Morgan Griffith’s silly survey

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Note from Dan: Well, well. It seems my column last Tuesday has encouraged some folks to write Rep. Morgan Griffith lengthy answers to the dumbly worded questions in his infamous survey of constituents. The latest is from Salem resident Frank Munley.

By Frank Munley

Dear Congressman Griffith,

Prompted by Dan Casey’s recent column on your survey (which I believe I responded to in short form), I’d like to offer more detailed thoughts on the complex issues your oversimplified and leading questions refer to.

1. “Do you support or oppose adding a balanced budget amendment to the constitution?”

I am adamantly opposed to such an amendment.  Those who support a balanced budget amendment forget U.S. economic history and the importance of stabilizers (most importantly unemployment insurance, Social Security, and discretionary federal government spending) that have prevented a repeat of the Great Depression.  The near-melt down we experienced in recent years (and still suffer from) was brought about by an unprecedented expansion over the past 30 years of the “gambling” (i.e., the financial sector) of the economy, accompanied by the elimination by free-market ideologues (Democrats and Republicans alike) of important financial regulations such as Glass-Steagall.

I am a proponent of a counter-cyclical federal fiscal policy: build up surpluses in good times rather than reduce taxes at every chance, and run a deficit in bad times. This type of policy can be implemented if the government always runs a “full employment” budget, i.e., a budget that would be balanced if the government received revenues obtained from an economy running at full employment.  We can differ on what unemployment level is unacceptable.  I would say 4%, i.e., anything more than 4% is not full employment.

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2. “Do you support or oppose allowing exploration for oil and natural gas in the waters off Virginia’s coastline?”

I do not support allowing such exploration which leads inevitably to exploitation.  As the song says, “When will we ever learn?” Deep sea drilling is problematic, as the fiasco in the Gulf proved.  Mishaps continue, most recently in the Arctic where the challenges from sea ice, wind, and remoteness from centers of civilization make the proposition of drilling there fraught with danger.  Deep sea drilling, whether in the Arctic or off the Virginia coast, is an experiment in progress—a careless and irresponsible experiment.

Then there is the problem of global warming.  Be careful, we could be at a tipping point leading to severities that will shock us all.  I am continuously surprised at the tendency of predictive models to underestimate temperature increases, ice melts,…etc.  Climate skeptics like to say “Oh, those lousy models are uncertain, you can’t count on them,” but as I always emphasized to my students, uncertainty cuts both ways because the situation might turn out worse than the models predict.  Unfortunately, that appears to be exactly the case!

At the Roanoke Rotary Club exchange with Anthony Flaccavento, you seemed impressed that the U.S. was poised to be the world’s biggest oil producer.  I’m not impressed at all.  We will still have to import a good portion of our oil needs, and the market price for oil is determined world-wide, whether we drill off the Virginia coastline or not.  We have to break our foolish fossil fuel addiction if we care about posterity.

3. “Do you support or oppose proposals that provide long-term stability to Medicare and Social Security by making adjustments to those programs for people who are currently under the age of 55?”

Adjustments should be made, but not the one you’re front-loading in this question.  Ronald Reagan, whose positions I would guess you respect, said two important things about Social Security.  First, he said Social Security does not contribute to the deficit.  It is prohibited by its terms from doing that.  In fact, Social Security, which I remind you is still running a surplus, helps to finance the deficit by buying the safest debt around: U.S. government debt incurred from general spending.  To insure the long-term health of Social Security, Reagan succeeded in raising the ceiling on income subject to payroll taxes (which fund Social Security) from something like $67,000 to $83,000.  Since then the ceiling has gone up with inflation, so today it is about $113,000.  But that rise ignores the fact that income distribution has shifted to higher-income levels (super-high, truth be told), so a smaller proportion of total income is now subject to the tax than was in Reagan’s day.  I am in favor of raising the ceiling to at least $183,000 as proposed by former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, or even more justly, eliminate the ceiling all together!

As for Medicare, there is a serious problem with the financing that will not be fixed by cutting benefits for those now under 55, because it does nothing to reign in the rapid rise of health care costs.  These costs have risen historically well above the inflation rate, to the point that we are spending at least twice per capita what other developed countries are. Obamacare might help control health care costs a bit, but even that program is a sell-out to the health care and insurance industries and will probably not suffice.

4. “Do you support or oppose legislation that provides a pathway and a series of requirements for illegal immigrants to ultimately earn U.S. citizenship?”

I support the Dream Act, and I wish you would too.  Again, Reagan had a “progressive” position on this point, essentially the same as proposed by the Dream Act.  We should not visit the “sins” of the parents on the children.  Enough said.

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5. “Do you support or oppose regulations enacted by the EPA that make it harder to mine coal and use coal as an energy source, resulting in higher electricity rates?”

Again, a loaded question, and the ignorance behind it is insulting to me.  Morgan, I grew up in coal country and you know not the threat you pose with your anti-regulation rants.  During the recent campaign, I had a letter published on this point in the Bristol Herald Courier on 4 November 2012.  Maybe you saw it, but if not, here is a link to it; read it and you’ll know why your position on this article insults me.

You would serve your constituents more justly by attending to the threats to public health from careless coal operations that sacrifice our beautiful mountain tops and endanger water supplies.

6. “Do you support or oppose U.S. action in order to prevent Iran from acquiring or building nuclear weapons?”

This is a many-faceted issue, but given our current aggressive sanctions against Iran, which by international law are themselves arguably acts of war, you have to be talking about overt direct military action against Iran—Dan Casey got it exactly right.

I am adamantly opposed to military action against Iran, and have grave doubts about the wisdom of our unprecedented sanctions against them too.  Iran is about three times the size of Iraq and like that war-ravaged country, Iran has sectarian divisions that could rip the country apart and cause untold suffering if we continue to insist (as Obama, like Bush, appears to favor) on regime change as the answer.  To our country’s great shame, it is consorting with terrorist groups who are against the Iranian regime.  I ask: do you support the removal of the group MEK off the terrorist list?

You should know that Iran, as a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, has every right to enrich uranium.  You might not know that each country enlists in a set of special protocols, and Iran’s compliance with the Treaty must be judged on the protocols it is a party to.  I have seen nothing to indicate that Iran has violated the treaty to the extent that it should be sanctioned, certainly not at the level the U.S. and its allies have imposed.  The most serious charge against Iran is that it failed to disclose sites where nuclear operations were underway.  But the issue here is more the timing of disclosure under Iran’s protocols rather than an overt attempt by Iran to hide something from the International Atomic Energy Agency.

There is strong evidence of a willful intent by the U.S. to ignore the realities of Iran’s nuclear program, with the U.S.’s incessant claims that Iran has a “nuclear weapons program.”  Take, for example, the enrichment of uranium to 20%.  Iran offered years ago to be supplied by other countries for the 20% enriched uranium it needs for medical purposes.  This was blocked by the U.S., as was the effort by Turkey and Brazil to alleviate the situation, an effort that the U.S. encouraged Turkey and Brazil to undertake and then withdrew its support when it appeared it might succeed.

Why should we trust what the national security apparatus, whether administered by Democrats or Republicans, says about Iran? In fact, most of Iran’s 20% enriched uranium has been fabricated into metal rods.  Anyone familiar with nuclear weapons technology knows very well that the enriched uranium will not work for a bomb if fabricated like that.

There are other sorry aspects to U.S. policy towards Iran, the saddest in my opinion being the Bush administration’s refusal to accept Iran’s offer by moderate president Khatami to cooperate in the effort to go after al Qaeda in Afghanistan following 9/11.  (Afghanistan’s Taliban government murdered 16 Iranian diplomats shortly before 9/11.)  Then in 2003, less than two years later, Khatami offered to discontinue its nuclear program, which may or may not at that time had a weapons component.  Well, it appears the only reason they had a program was to counter Iraq, but once we took care of their “Saddam” problem, they eliminated their nuclear weapons effort.  The Iraq war surely ranks as one of the biggest strategic blunders by the U.S., as evaluated in either the dictates of raw power politics or the civilized idea of the inadmissibility of unprovoked attack.  Iran would be a repeat of that type of blunder, and a bigger one!

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7. “Do you support or oppose passage of laws that would restrict the rights of law abiding citizens to own and carry firearms?”

I can’t resist a bit of sarcasm here.  Maybe you meant, “Do you support or oppose passage of laws that would restrict the rights of law abiding citizens to own and carry firearms (defined by Oxford as a portable gun) like rocket-propelled grenades and submachine guns?”  Submachine guns, i.e., totally automatic guns, are currently outlawed.  Do you think they should be legally sold to private citizens?

As for the semi-automatic weapons that require a pull of the trigger for each shot, the crucial issue of magazine size is totally neglected by your question.

Like most of your questions, this one is framed to get a particular answer, “Oppose,” from a certain group of people who fear that gun control has no bounds and will confiscate even hunting weapons from them.  That’s nonsense, of course, and in fact, many gun owners, hunters included, do not agree with the NRA’s extreme position on this problem.

In conclusion, if you want to know what your constituents think about important issues, give them the consideration they deserve by framing your questions in a meaningful and unbiased, and not a leading way.

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22 COMMENTS

  1. Leon | January 18, 2013 at 6:36 am

    Please post your answers on Dan’s silly blog.

  2. Jim | January 18, 2013 at 7:23 am

    Wow! What a thoughtful and well-reasoned reply. The author’s letter was interesting, but so was a reading of the other letters at the same link. Some thoughtful and well thought out, speaking from experience, and others, umm… Well not so much…

    People who write in this manner are the reason I most often turn to the Op-Ed pages first, no matter what paper I find in my hands. Thanks to Mr. Munley for writing, and thanks to Mr. Casey for posting (I, sadly, just shook my head when I read the mailer and threw it away in disgust thinking “This is the kind of thinking a law school education gets you?!?)

  3. George Orwell (1946) | January 18, 2013 at 7:33 am

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually on a battlefield”

  4. J kitts | January 18, 2013 at 8:02 am

    You know Dan, I hope the Roanoke Times realizes that it’s because of buffoons like you that gives me the sole reason I will never purchase or subscribe to their newspaper. Until they put a legitimate voice of conservatism in your stead, they will NEVER get any of my or my families money. You should join your anti-american liberal hero Piers Morgan and his writing staff, he’s on his way out too.

  5. Henry | January 18, 2013 at 8:54 am

    More of the Democratic Party-controlled Roanoke Times silly obsession with Griffith’s survey.

  6. Larry H | January 18, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Yes, I filled out Rep Griffith’s survey and mailed it in. The object of the survey, it seemed to me, is to get a baseline on where people think on these issues. Apparently the individual who is answering these questions presented here must have some difficulty reading. The questions, do, of course, in discussion, have many faceted issues which need to be talked about and addressed. No single survey can touch upon every issue of every question, but also, no one should try to “read into” the questions more than is stated there. For example, the first question asks about supporting a balanced budget amendment. The question is merely asking do you GENERALLY support a balanced budget amendment. I do. There is nothing in this question suggesting anything about unemployment or social security. That wasn’t what the question asks. The writer is reaching when trying to answer it. Do you support preventing Iran getting a nuke? I know that I sure do! We know that they are in the process, as they have said as much. But the question makes no reference to military intervention or any other method employed to stop such an action. And if the writer thinks that enriching uranium by Iran should be let go unchecked, then the writer apparently supports a nuclear Iran. The coal issue is pretty clear-cut. Ask those families whose jobs were lost by mine closings whether they think EPA regulations should take precedence over jobs. THEY are the ones affected most, THEIR answers should be considered first. Support laws that restrict law-abiding citizens to own firearms? Of course. This is common sense. No one is talking about nukes, rocket launchers, or machine guns. We should not go down a road of watering down the second amendment. Why? Because if we can sharply curtail the second amendment, then the other nine are up for grabs, too. Frank Munley clearly took the questions, and wrote answers to make him look like a smart ass. Better yet, maybe our legislators should not ask generalized questions to get a “feel” where the electorate stands on the issues. Apparently, folks like Mr. Munley would never be in agreement with legislators if the laws they pass do not meet into the most intricate details of what HE believes.

  7. Dan Casey | January 18, 2013 at 9:08 am

    J kitts, thank you for reading my stuff!

  8. Debbie | January 18, 2013 at 9:40 am

    A legitimate voice of conservatism, being someone that people like J kitts agree with. Since he doesn’t buy the newspaper I guess he doesn’t know that they have columns by George Will every Sunday, and columns by other conservatives during the week.

  9. Kristen | January 18, 2013 at 9:49 am

    If you’re feeling so butthurt, jkitts, go over to the RTEB site and read some John Long. That should cheer you up.

    And FYI…you generate cash for them every time you click on their site. Just sayin’.

  10. Applewood | January 18, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Guns are part of our heritage. If you own one, or more, be responsible.

  11. Perch | January 18, 2013 at 10:26 am

    There is a huge difference between “legitimate” conservatism and the tea bagging kookiness the conservative movement has devolved into. When moderation is a bad word, compromise is unAmerican, and only the rightest of the right wing is right, conversation becomes too contentious to produce any sort of consensus.
    Give ‘em hell, Dan-o!!!

  12. Dan Casey | January 18, 2013 at 10:29 am

    “George Orwell (1946)” aka “Jim,”

    We prefer it here on the blog if you use only one anonymous ID. It makes it a little easier to keep things straight. Please pick one an use that consistently. Thanks.

  13. Bill Hudson | January 18, 2013 at 10:54 am

    #4 I think you have it turned around, being liberal is being pro American. It is only those on the right and far right wingers that keep pushing that stuff. It does not hurt to open a history book sometimes.
    As to The Roanoke Times being liberal, oh boy you have not seen a liberal rag. This paper covers things like slum landlords and issues that maybe is not comfortable to face but I for one am glad they bring it to light of day.

  14. gdad | January 18, 2013 at 11:03 am

    “Please post your answers on Dan’s silly blog”

    You mean like you do, Leon?

  15. Dave Gresham | January 18, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Terrific letter Frank.

  16. gdad | January 18, 2013 at 11:09 am

    “Until they put a legitimate voice of conservatism in your stead, they will NEVER get any of my or my families money.”

    I’m sure that the publisher will now order Dan’s firing and start an immediate search for someone suitably right wing to gain your trust. Undoubtedly Ms. Meade will submit names and CV to you for approval. Having gained your one subscription, she will then look for other ways to win another one from somebody.

  17. Sandi Saunders | January 18, 2013 at 11:23 am

    Funny how the same people who howl with laughter when their titular leader crawls all over anything a Dem says are howling with indignation when Dan or others return the favor? Thin skin?

  18. Kristen | January 18, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Guns are not part of my “heritage”, applewood. Who do you mean by “our”?

    I wonder if the French feel the need to keep a guillotine in their back yards, as that would be considered their “heritage” and a part of their own revolution.

  19. Sandi Saunders | January 18, 2013 at 11:28 am

    J kitts — January 18, 2013 @ 8:02 am, carrying on the American dream of free speech and the passion of Patrick Henry…well kinda.

    J kitts, do you know that the Roanoke Times does indeed print right wing commentators and even has a right wing local columnist and a right wing curmudgeon (neither of which have 1/100th the following Dan has). One has a blog that will not allow comments so you can all bask in that glory and the other offers his pearls in the paper on the Round Table Blog and could use all the support you people claim to wield but never put into evidence.

  20. Debbie | January 18, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Kristen, J kitts should check out Lars Hagen’s blog too. He’d be happier than a pig in mud.

  21. Kristen | January 18, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Indeed, Debbie! Good call. Of course, in true conservative fashion, you can’t actually COMMENT on Lars blog the way we can on Dan’s.

  22. gdad | January 18, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    Wonder why Morgan doesn’t show up to defend his incisive questionnaire.

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