Thursday’s column: Del. Ben Cline takes up a Tea Party fight
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For years now the Roanoke Tea Party has waged a fruitless and embarrassing battle. The goal: persuade Roanoke County to drop its $1,200 a year membership in the International Council of Local Environmental Initiatives, also known as Local Governments for Sustainability.
The Tea Partiers believe ICLEI is part of a United Nations Agenda 21 scheme to control local land-use planning in America. This has elicited much eye-rolling from a majority of the Roanoke County Board of Supervisors, who’ve pretty given the bum’s rush to the Tea Party. Foiled at every turn, they’ve now taken their cause to the friendlier ears of state lawmakers in Richmond.
They’re proudly supporting HB 2223, a bill sponsored by Del. Ben Cline, R-Rockbridge County. It would prohibit Roanoke County from paying dues to ICLEI, which would end its membership. Cline says that specific consequence was not his precise intention. He’s seeking to bar every political subdivision in Virginia from membership in ICLEI and some other groups.
Those localities also include Roanoke, Arlington County, Richmond, Charlottesville, Harrisonburg, Alexandria and Winchester. The bill will be considered by the House Rules Committee this afternoon.
I predicted such legislation in this column back on Oct. 21. Tuesday, I read Cline’s two-sentence bill to Hollins District Supervisor Richard Flora, a Republican. He sounded incredulous.
“It’s pure hogwash,” Flora said. “To tell them ‘you can’t belong to an organization that’s concerned about the environment?’ Or ‘you should stop planning for the future of your community?’
“Just when you think the Virginia General Assembly has reached its maximum level of incompetence, you get fooled,” Flora added. “I think it’s pretty idiotic legislation.”
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January 31, 2013 - 6:00 AM
The Idiot Train just keeps on rolling.
Repubs got together and decided they didn’t look stupid enough yet.
Now what was that part about right wingers hating the nanny state?
Wow. Pretty stupid all right. Is this Cline related to the Foamhenge guy?
Hey Dan – did you see that Glenn Beck is now in favor of central planning and Smart Growth? Check out this bit from the Daily Show where they cover Glenn Beck’s centrally-planned utopian city, which includes such items such as a marketplace that doesn’t allow national chains and a focus on local food:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-29-2013/america-2–now-with-more-freedom—glenn-beck-s-utopia?xrs=synd_facebook
Gdad
Of course you know that the GOP actually LOVES regulations. They want to regulate what two consenting adults do in their bedroom, they want to regulate planned parenthood out of existence, etc. it’s just regulations on things they like (guns, pollution, pickup trucks, etc.) that they want to curtail.
It is amazing how far the GOP is willing to go to seek stupid.
I should have mentioned for those who don’t know – Glenn Beck is the high priest of this conspiracy stuff. He recently wrote a thriller called “Agenda 21.”
Now we know why Paul Ryan is considered the intellectual of the GOP.
You do realize we are paying for our own destruction? It’s not a Democrat or Republican thing. It’s beyond that. It’s about consolidation and moving people and resources to main city centers and away from rural local communities to make people dependent and less able to take care of themselves and live on their own. They want to make it so expensive to live outside the city that you won’t be able to pay for gas much less be able to own a car. Everyone will be dependent on public transportation and live in tiny “shoebox” apartments. It’s not too late to turn back.
The Tea Party is as regular as a clock. Cuckoo…cuckoo…cuckoo…
Jeremy: I should have mentioned for those who don’t know – Glenn Beck is the high priest of this conspiracy stuff. He recently wrote a thriller called “Agenda 21.”
Beck didn’t write Agenda 21. The coauthor/ghostwriter, Harriet Parke, wrote the thing in the mid 90s. Once the topic got popular with the GOTP, Beck bought the rights to the book.
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/19/i_got_duped_by_glenn_beck/
This happens more often than you think. James Patterson “writes” 3-4 books a year because he hands an outline or summary to a member of his cadre, who then writes the book with Patterson’s guidance. Patterson then puts out the book with his name on top and the gofer’s on the bottom. If the gofer can write a couple books with good sales, Patterson will back the marketing package on the gofer’s first solo work.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1578012/James-Pattersons-Kentucky-fried-books.html
Yeah that cheap housing in Manhattan is really hurting the burbs and the counties! Geez, are there not enough real problems?
It’s about efficient use of resources, Paul.
I can’t take anyone who fears the U.N. seriously.
9. You have got to be kidding, you believe that?
Yeah, people are really being forced to move to high-rise tenements. Have you actually seen recent and ongiong residential development?
Green space and bike trails are the devil…we need to pave it all and save ‘Merica!
Truth is stranger than fiction. http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/
#11: I had no idea. Thanks for that. I’ve heard him marketing the book so just assumed he had written it. Wow. Scuzzy.
Silly people come in all stripes, Paul.
I already live in an apt in the city, so it won’t affect me at all.
Dear ICLEIphobes:
The speed is at which the UN is implementing Agenda 21 worldwide is staggering. In the over twenty years since A21 was signed, here’s a list of things that the UN has committed in furtherance of their global domination goals:
Whew! That’s some scary stuff, right there. At the current rate of erasing property rights and forcing people into metroplexes, A21′s dastardly plans will be fully enacted worldwide by 2200, 2300 at the latest.
So don’t worry, guys! You can continue destroying the earth at will for at least another 200 years or so. By the time A21 reaches your front step, you’ll have poisoned the land you live on so terribly and completely that your great-great-great-grandchildren will have no choice but to move to a Habitable Zone.
As always, we couldn’t have done it without you. You’ve been our greatest allies in the fight for sustainability.
Forever pals,
The United Nations
P.S. By 2500? No guns for anyone. Better start stockpiling now, fellas.
Apparently Delegate Cline does not realize that by taking his legislative cues from doomsday hoarders he is killing his own career. This bill is a total joke. And when you combine it with the vote to force rape victims to have transvaginal ultrasounds and the fiasco with the shackling of pregnant inmates during labor, not to mention the vote against the war hero for a judgeship because said war hero was gay, you get exactly the kind of Republican that the Republican higher-ups do not want. Exactly the kind of Republican that makes the majority of Americans run screaming from the party. If Cline intends to keep his part-time job in the 24th district, this garbage may cut the mustard. But if he has any higher aspirations, it will be the GOP itself that cuts him loose.
Conspiracy theories make for entertaining 1-hour TV shows , and sometimes movies, that are a good way to waste a bit of time on a slow day.
As far as Roanoke County goes the future of this bill probably matters little related to the Counties continued participation in ICLEI. Supervisors Church and Elswick (the fruitcakes on the Board) are against the Counties participation and firmly in the Teanutties pocket. While Mr. Floras comments are enlightening, he is not running for re-election and Mike Bailey has announced for his spot representing the Hollins District. Mike Bailey is a Teabagger and will vote with Church and Elswick to withdraw from ICLEI when he is elected, thus protecting Roanoke County residents from the evils of energy conservation and budget savings. God Bless Merika.
” If that ever happened, the tea partyers would be dancing in the streets, singing hallelujahs.”
Wrong kind sir. Citizens who share the same beliefs as ‘tea partyers’ do not react nor behave in that manner. We respect everyone’s opinion, and tolerate snarky commentary directed to us.
One Small Acorn
Have you tried getting a flight into Roanoke from practically anywhere? I would think the UN would concentrate first on taking over places they can get to directly without going through Detroit first.
#24 Did you think these were “snarky comments”? It’s Rubio talking about your favorite guys.
“We must stop being the stupid party. I’m serious. It’s time for a new Republican party that talks like adults. It’s time for us to articulate our plans and visions for America in real terms. We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. We’ve had enough of that.”
Did you know that through UNESCO and the world heritage sites the UN controls the Statue of Liberty, Grand Canyon, Monticello, and Independence Hall? (The more you know…).
UNESCO does not “control” those sites, Paul. They are “designated” World Heritage Sites. This is what a designation means:
UNESCO designation as a World Heritage Site provides prima facie evidence that such culturally sensitive sites are legally protected pursuant to the Law of War, under the Geneva Convention, its Articles, Protocols and Customs, together with other treaties including the Hague Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict and international law.
Thus, the Geneva Convention treaty promulgates:
“Article 53. PROTECTION OF CULTURAL OBJECTS AND OF PLACES OF WORSHIP. Without prejudice to the provisions of the Hague Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict of 14 May 1954,’ and of other relevant international instruments, it is prohibited:[9]
(a) To commit any acts of hostility directed against the historic monuments, works of art or places of worship which constitute the cultural or spiritual heritage of peoples;
(b) To use such objects in support of the military effort;
(c) To make such objects the object of reprisals.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Heritage_Site#Legal_status_of_designated_sites
Don’t confuse paranoid people with facts, Dan.
Who knew our little valley was such an important place to the UN? With apologies to Bob Geldof, Do they know that we exist at all?
Mark Twain was right and we really should thank them for “removing all doubt”!
This doesn’t say much for the people that elect him. Wait, isn’t Liberty University in his district?
Sometimes I remember the young part of my brain that conjured up monsters under the bed, or in the dark closet, and how easily it was to access that particular region of grey matter when such reactive thoughts where amplified in the company of friends. I suppose that’s why Hasbro made the planchette on the Ouija board big enough for several gullible children. Still it kept many a kid both fearful and busy on a rainy day, at least up to age 12 or so.
At some point, you kind of realize that the answers the board gave really had more to do with the answer you wanted to hear, or who could push the hardest. Once you came to that realization, it really wasn’t much fun, or fearful any more.
I also thought most people figured this out, but every time I read these Roanoke Tea Party articles it makes me think that a bunch of grown men (mostly) have congregated for political reasons and to play with the ouija board.
ike Bailey is a Teabagger and will vote with Church and Elswick to withdraw from ICLEI when he is elected, thus protecting Roanoke County residents from the evils of energy conservation and budget savings. God Bless Merika.
Comment by Still Learning — January 31, 2013 @ 1:55 pm
Except Elswick’s term is up too. And if he runs again I think it’s quite possible that the good people of the Windsor Hills District have seen more than enough of him the past four years.
Someone has to keep conspiracy theories going, the Tea Party has taken on the task.
Wow. Only those “crazy” tea party people would believe this stuff. Or maybe not…
http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com
In my opinion, the County’s membership in ICLEI is a waste of money in the first place.
If he runs again, Elswick’s going to be challenged. Mike Bailey’s going to be challenged, too. He’s not going to get a cakewalk. Stay tuned on both.
Who knows? Before it’s over it might be a 4-1 pro-ICLEI board majority.
Eddie, that link should be worn out by now. So you found one really weird so called “Democrat” as bat scat crazy as the GOTP… lucky you.
This whole ICLEI / UN / Agenda 21 crap fest reminds me of animal testing in labs. Are you going to refuse the cure because scientists tortured a Chimpanzee for 20 years to gain it? Sometimes good things, smart ideas and useful products come from mistakes, unintended outcomes and even agenda driven ideology. This is almost painfully pitiful to defend and yet you go on. People who have been abducted by aliens are even embarrassed by you.
Scroll on up Eddie, you’ll see that Paul already posted that. As I told Paul, silly people come in all stripes. I don’t care what political party a person belongs to, if they fear the ICLEI, IMO they are paranoid nuts.
37.In my opinion, the County’s membership in ICLEI is a waste of money in the first place.
Comment by Frank — January 31, 2013 @ 7:26 pm
This is probably the best of many reasons I have seen for the county to continue its membership. If hey/hay/hi Frank is against it it must be good.
“In my opinion, the County’s membership in ICLEI is a waste of money in the first place.”
–Frank
Explain to us how your opinion works, Frank. How did you come to the conclusion that it’s a waste of money?
25.Have you tried getting a flight into Roanoke from practically anywhere? I would think the UN would concentrate first on taking over places they can get to directly without going through Detroit first.
Comment by Kristen — January 31, 2013 @ 4:46 pm
? ? ? ROA has about 30 flights a day. . .going to/from major hubs like Atlanta, Detroit, Charlotte, New York and Philly. . .it literally is a world connection. . .perhaps you should blog on a topic of which you have
some modicum of knowledge.
If a conservative posted on here that down is up and black is white, Frank would say good post, I agree.
You do realize we are paying for our own destruction? It’s not a Democrat or Republican thing. It’s beyond that. It’s about consolidation and moving people and resources to main city centers and away from rural local communities to make people dependent and less able to take care of themselves and live on their own. They want to make it so expensive to live outside the city that you won’t be able to pay for gas much less be able to own a car. Everyone will be dependent on public transportation and live in tiny “shoebox” apartments. It’s not too late to turn back.
Comment by Paul — January 31, 2013 @ 10:10 am
Paul, thanks for posting…very perceptive…and perhaps the most interesting post I have read on this blog! This provides somewhat of an explanation why the large metro areas pull the D lever, because they really are more dependent. Take no offense other bloggers, many of your posts have been very interesting too.
Isn’t Paul the poster who claimed the Statute of Liberty and Monticello are controlled by the UN?
TPers have a fantasy that the UN wants everyone to live in ICLEI-villages. It’s straight out that 1960s British TV, The Prisoner.
They believe “environmentalism is the new communism.”
They believe that conservation easements, under which landowners give up development rights to land in exchange for tax breaks, is part of the UN’s plot. You read that right: private landowners should not be allowed to enter into conservation easements freely and of their own accord, with their own land.
Greenways are part of the UN takeover scheme, too.
“These are just a few examples of the United Nations exerting influence on us in a direct manner. The list goes on to include indoctrination into the communist Green religion in the government school system, yielding yet another generation of acolytes to this religion. You see it in advertising by various corporations. For all practical purposes, it is everywhere.”
Even Bike Virginia is part of the conspiracy!
“We believe this is a seemingly benign event is part of an agenda to call attention to man-made CO2 emissions being the cause of global warming.”
“…because they really are more dependent.”
Civilization, what a concept! Somewhere a Kroger has run out of tin foil.
Paul, thanks for posting…very perceptive…and perhaps the most interesting post I have read on this blog! This provides somewhat of an explanation why the large metro areas pull the D lever, because they really are more dependent. Take no offense other bloggers, many of your posts have been very interesting too.
Comment by Another Chuck — January 31, 2013 @ 11:25 pm
Perceptive Another Chuck? It’s definitely a word beginning with “P”. But think paranoid instead of perceptive.
Another Chuck, as an intelligent person how can you seriously believe that the UN wants to force Americans to leave rural areas and live in shoebox apartments. Paul’s assertions are patently absurd.
If recycling and saving energy is a communist religion, then sign me up comrade.
To believe that the UN controls this country at all is absurd.
Debbie, I don’t think the UN is behind this at all. I was just intrigued by the dependency theory of many in large metro areas. I thought Paul did a good job of explaining that, and I hope he didn’t believe the UN was the driving factor.
The sheer nuttery of this UN nonsense cannot be overstated. Paul, I’m sure that if you want to go live off the land in the wild, there are plenty places left. Just don’t call our ambulances or firefighters.
“Debbie, I don’t think the UN is behind this at all. I was just intrigued by the dependency theory of many in large metro areas. I thought Paul did a good job of explaining that, and I hope he didn’t believe the UN was the driving factor.”
–Another Chuck
AC, I hope you understand that the roots of Paul’s theory don’t get very deep without all the UN nonsense, including his claim that they control Monticello and the Statue of Liberty.
After the fall of the Soviet Union, the John Birch Society found itself sitting in an intellectual rowboat, high in some desert sands, unable to paddle because there was no water around at all. It had to invent a new principal enemy, so they turned to the United Nations, who are controlled by the Illuminati. (The UN and the Illuminati were lesser enemies back when the reds were still around, and they had “identified” Nelson Rockefeller as America’s Illuminati leader).
But even doing that involved swallowing a hell of a lot of pride, because it meant that they had to accept the notion that the lesser-enemy Illuminati had allowed the collapse of the principal enemy (the communist “empire”), which suggested they weren’t in fact working together to enslave the world. It gets all very cosmological when you get deep into it.
Another Chuck, the Tea Party is all about the UN being a threat, and as far as people in large metro areas being dependent on public transportation, that is because the public transportation in large cities is very effective. There are still people who own cars, but for those who don’t they can get around just fine without them. People also have the freedom to move out of large cities if they choose to.
Dan, I hope you are correct in your thoughts re: post #38. Will look forward to your follow up.
I agree this subject can get very convoluted. AC had it right about dependency because that’s what it’s all about when you come down to it. The government wants more power and control while making people less free and independent.
Paul, I agree, and it seems that the more dependent you are, the more likely you are to vote for the Democrat party. I’m not sure there is any deeper conspiracy than these folks being a D voting block, but your thoughts are interesting.
Regarding the UN, I don’t believe they have a devious agenda, but I believe they are ineffective for the most part. Futhermore, we pay the lions share of UN funding, and I feel certain this is not a good value for the US.
Yes at the very least let us get out of the UN and govern ourselves. Why do we need them to tell us how to live our lives.
So, AC and Paul, you believe people that live in urban areas, most by choice btw, should not use public transportation because that’s being dependent on the gov’t? Never mind that public transportation is cheaper than filling a car up with gas, and the last time I checked no one was being forced to live in an apartment or leave a rural area against their will. Public transportation helps those without cars get to their respective work places. How is that considered dependency.
I still believe that the initials TP that some use for the Tea Party actually stands for Totally Paranoid.
I guess Paul has his own well in the backyard and generates his own power too. Because depending on a utility company just fosters dependence.
59.Yes at the very least let us get out of the UN and govern ourselves. Why do we need them to tell us how to live our lives.
Comment by Paul — February 1, 2013 @ 11:42 am
That you truly believe that, tells how little you know and how you’ve bought the paranoia theories hook, line, and sinker.
Hush Debbie…I was just getting ready to contact the UN to find out where I’m having lunch today.
Leon Panetta cited the UN and NATO as a basis for going to war bypassing Congress. Obama went to war with Libya for the credibility of the UN. No one looks to Congress to go to war anymore.
I think you should have to freedom to choose to live in an apartment or ride a bus. All I’m saying is eventually you won’t have a choice.
Paul, I agree, and it seems that the more dependent you are, the more likely you are to vote for the Democrat party. I’m not sure there is any deeper conspiracy than these folks being a D voting block, but your thoughts are interesting.
Regarding the UN, I don’t believe they have a devious agenda, but I believe they are ineffective for the most part. Futhermore, we pay the lions share of UN funding, and I feel certain this is not a good value for the US.
Comment by Another Chuck — February 1, 2013 @ 10:41 am
Or, AC and Paul, people who consistently vote the Democratic ticket see an upside to the Democratic Platform. Things like welcoming women, Latinos, African-Americans, gay and lesbian folks to the policy table. Things like fighting to preserve Social Security and Medicare. Things like plans to address the obscene income inequality gap between rich and poor, men and women. Things like taking a first step toward healthcare for all citizens. Things like saving hundreds of thousands of public service jobs and thousands of private sector jobs (see automakers).
Gentlemen, as Jon Stewart said after President Obama’s inauguration speech, the President dared to say that a
government of the people, for the people, by the people – should benefit the people. You may continue to tout “government dependency” as the problem, but ultimately, that finger of judgment points right back at you. Your imagined independence will, when you peel back the layers, include a healthy dose of government supported infrastructure.
The 2 most strongly anti-government conservative Republicans I know personally have both been getting government checks for essentially their entire adult lives. I think projection of self-hatred over their own state of government dependence is why they are so vocally outspoken against it, while collecting their checks every month.
Unsurprisngly as well, both 100% favor reforms to ‘entitlement’ programs that would secure their continued ability to collect, while stealing any ability for someone like myself to collect upon the payroll taxes I’ve been paying for half my life thus far when I hit their ages.
Oh well, if it is only the “dependency” issue you want to talk about.
“America’s Four Socioeconomic Classes
1. Parasitic financial Aristocracy (creates no value, skims national surplus)
2. High value creation (employed, heavily taxed)
3. Low value creation (employed/informal economy, lightly taxed)
4. No value creation (unemployed, dependent)
In the conventional view, the wealthy subsidize the poor via taxes and donations to charity (i.e. noblesse oblige). But the conventional framework ignores the key question of where the wealthy obtained their fortunes, and the consequences of that wealth acquisition on the larger economy.
…What we need to consider is what happens as the parasitic and dependent classes take an ever-larger share of the national surplus while the classes creating most of the value decline in size and political influence.”
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogjan13/4-classes01-13.html
Why does the “parasitic class” vote overwhelmingly for the GOTP.
BTW, it is at your own peril that you continue to have that tin ear on dependency being the reason people vote D. Your choice of course, I LIKE to see you lose.
Sandi, please explain why 93% of African Americans voted for Obama. Statistically, their community has suffered most in terms of the economic downturn, unemployment and gun violence? It seems to me that a much higher percentage of blacks would vote for a different direction.
AC, historically since the 60′s Civil Rights movement, black voters have supported liberal Democrats in the 80-95% range in Presidential elections. The ratio of support for Obama was at the high end of the range, but it was not a significant statistical variation.
The Republicans have struggled to attract racial minority voters. I remember several discussions and debates over that happening when I got involved in the GOP in the 90′s. The hope was that prominent black conservatives like Thomas Sowell, JC Watts, Ken Hamblin, and others could help expand the appeal to others…but it never really took.
The one area that seems to not be the case is with Cubans and some other latino groups who migrated from repressive socialist/communist countries. Many I have known do not like the Democrats at all, because they say they heard similar ideals being espoused in their home countries…so they support whomever opposes them in elections.
Here’s a newsflash for you, AC, American blacks haven’t just “suffered most in terms of the economic downturn, unemployment and gun violence” since Obama’s been alive. They’ve had a century and a half of suffering as much or more than anyone with a non-indigenous background (Native Americans suffering the most in virtually all eras of modern U.S. history). So why wouldn’t they apply the knowledge gained from seeing where racism and classism congregate politically, which in the late 20th century was the party that kept rewarding Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, Trent Lott, and many other Dixiecrat types.
Until Obama, 100% of all voters voted for a white guy. And no one found that strange at ALL, until blacks started voting for a black guy. Then it became suspect.
Oh, but that’s “playing the race card”. Racism is “over”, right? As long as we were all voting for the white guy, it was all good. Vote for a black, and you’re racist.
The biggest question, AC, is how anyone at all voted for a lame ticket like Romney/Ryan. That’s the more interesting question, because they surely didn’t come by 47% of the votes honestly.
AC, please explain why 88 percent of blacks voted for John Kerry in 2004, why 90 percent voted for Al Gore in 2000, why 84 percent voted for Clinton in 1996 and 83 percent voted for him in 1992 (both were 3-way races), why 89 percent voted for Dukakis in 1988 and why 91 percent voted for Mondale in 1984.
I know you think you’re being clever and all, but the silly question you posed is reflecting pretty badly on you.
Im not trying to be clever at all. Sandi, that was a good answer. The civil rights movement wasn’t that long ago. But, given the current state of affairs, especially the extremely high UE rate in the black community, I would have expected the percentage to be in the mid-80′s. Whether or not you agreed with Ronmey/Ryan, that does not change the fact they were broadcasting a different vision which revolved around strong job creation in both small and large businesses.
“…they were broadcasting a different vision which revolved around strong job creation in both small and large businesses.”
Yes they were, and were afforded the credibility they deserved.
I think you should have to freedom to choose to live in an apartment or ride a bus. All I’m saying is eventually you won’t have a choice.
Comment by Paul — February 1, 2013 @ 12:13 pm
Sorry, Paul, unlike you and your buddies I won’t be wasting a moment of my time worrying about that happening. So sorry that you all are and I mean that sincerely.
Yes Paul, the UN is here and I wants you in a condo.
Maybe Ed Walker’s onto something.
According to the TP’s this is our future, Kristen.
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/p/m/df329/
Debbie, I was hoping for a nice little walk up in the West Village.
“Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow, it empties today of its strength.”
― Corrie ten Boom, Clippings from My Notebook
Paul, I hope you don’t spend so much time worrying about the future, that you don’t enjoy the present. Life is far too short.
I’m with you on that, Kristen. Thamk God we can depend on public transportation. A good friend of mine speaks fluent Russian, I’ll just have the commies transfer me to his apt bldg in NY and I’ll be fine. Want to come?
They typo queen strikes again, that should be, Thank.
“…they were broadcasting a different vision…”
That’s why they got their butts kicked, and rightfully so.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/24/local/la-me-micro-apartments-20120924
Enjoy your near-future soft tyranny, people. Most of its structure and internals have already been put in place. You haven’t seen anything until they flip that switch on shortly. Don’t say you weren’t warned. Keep in mind the Title of this and its date. Its all coming from the great Mothership in the Sky and being voluntarily implemented in localities across the Country. Now, back to sleep, people. Goodnight: http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/67/437/Add.1 &Lang=E
Paul, I know you consider it a nefarious plot, but it just isn’t. The area’s cited in that story have astronomically high rents, some people would willingly live in a tiny place for cheap rent. Believe it or not, some people like living simply. If there isn’t enough interest, no more will be built. It’s really not a difficult concept. I know you have this vision of people being forcibly placed in a cattle car and shipped somewhere, but it’s just not going to happen. Stop drinking the tea, Paul.
If you’re a good Southerner you don’t have to give up iced tea though. I think I’ll go make a pitcher now.
the real reason people vote ‘d’ sandi is because they are not intelligent enough to find out answers for themselves and they depend on the low info media, you are very lowly informed m’dear so go eat another box of cookies, girl scouts in town ya know….
I do love the free entertainment that your group offers, Paul.
#85 OK, so people making money off of rising housing prices in San Francisco is proof positive the UN is taking over? And suzie claimed one of my posts was the nuttiest thing she’s seen.
86.Enjoy your near-future soft tyranny, people. Most of its structure and internals have already been put in place. You haven’t seen anything until they flip that switch on shortly. Don’t say you weren’t warned. Keep in mind the Title of this and its date. Its all coming from the great Mothership in the Sky and being voluntarily implemented in localities across the Country. Now, back to sleep, people. Goodnight: http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/67/437/Add.1 &Lang=E
Comment by Bill Gregory — February 2, 2013 @ 3:41 am
The local Kommandant of the tinfoil hat brigade comes out of hibernation
just long enough to certify his credentials as chief nut.
For those of us living in California we’ve taken off the tin foil hats and put on the kevlar helmets. If you need to see evidence of the influence of Agenda 21 and it’s local action arm ICLEI then look not further than California. California over the last 20 years has been under the grips of Agenda 21 and most in the state and the nation have been kept in the dark because the agents who implement the agenda work stealthily behind legislation and regulation. Here’s are a few of ICLEI and the Agenda 21 folks accomplishments:
California was once the worlds largest aircraft manufacturing centers. Few aircraft are made in the state today.
California once was seen as the world’s greatest scientific research centers. Almost all the major companies have left the state and gone over seas.
California’s education system was rated #1 in public education now it’s 50.
California has 11% of the U.S. population but 33% of the U.S. welfare recipients.
California’s ‘real’ unemployment rate is 15% and rising.
California’s tax rate when combined with all other taxes is 63%.
California’s budget deficit at the end of the fiscal year is estimated by independent economist to be in the range of $26 billion.
California Legislature has a super majority Democratic make up and now can pass any tax they need and have committed to do so!
California is rated last of all states in the Union for business environment.
Many sections of California are going through the ‘re-wilding’ process where farmers and people in rural communities are being forced off their properties, Fresno, Klamath River Basin, Drakes Bay, Mojave, El Dorado County, San Francisco Bay Area just to mention a few. This is affecting millions of people.
Established the California Air Resources Board known as ‘CARB’ a regional non elected agencies that ‘regulates’ the air we breath.
Passed AB 32 which establishes ‘carbon tax’ and sets up a ‘carbon credit’ exchange. The first exchange for carbon credit trading was held Nov. 14, 2012…….oh it was held in secret!!!!! No Press, no public, just a few people who ‘knew’ what was going on! Never mind it was public dollars they were trading.
Soviet style Regionalism is now established in all parts of the state thus destroying the Democratically structured city, county, state election process.
This is just a very short list of the influence of UN Agenda 21 and ICLEI as they have managed through regulation, taxation and using an environmentalist agenda based on false facts and data to redistribute California’s wealth to other countries and states.
Remember the UN Agenda 21 motto “Think Globally and act locally”? UN Agenda 21 was signed in June of 1992 by over 170 nations and as you read the document you realize that the Agenda is to redistribute America’s wealth and enslave it’s people.
ICLEI is the local arm of the United Nations and is out of Bonn, Germany. (a real local group)
Californians are trading their tin foil hats and putting on the kevlar helmets. Those left with the tin foil hats, well they’ve swallowed the cool aid.
Paul Preston
Agenda 21 Radio
http://www.agenda21radio.com
paul@aetalkradio.com
This communique was received from the Mothership In The Sky at 0800 hours today.
Attention all Agenda 21 illuminati:
Our brave forward agents have nearly completed installing the internals necessary for our future soft tyranny. It is now up to you to begin implementing the final phase of the master plan. As you undertake your vital mission, it is imperative to follow the instructions and training embedded in your mind chip.
Mothership data reports indicate that resistance will be light, but the resistance suppression group has identified isolated pockets of dangerous freedom lovers who must be neutralized in order to ensure total success of the master plan. Reports indicate that these opponents are willing to defend unsustainable waste and sprawl with a zeal rarely seen since the Great Flouride War. Our patrols have been alerted to their presence, and they have been spotted at local planning board hearings, but that is believed to be merely a feigning action intended to distract from their primary strategy of giving themselves awards to generate public attention.
Those agents whose mission requires penetration of opposition staging areas by use of an undercover identity will soon be receiving an ample supply of top grade aluminum foil. Also included are wardrobe items designed to facilitate blending into the landscape of the opposition. NOTE: all hats, shirts and underpants must be worn so that the tea party logo remains visible throughout all public speaking events.
Should you encounter any unexpected developments in the execution of your mission, you are authorized to return to one of the Mothership controlled sites to await further instruction. These sites are fully secured and controlled for sustainability. The sites for agents in your area include:
Local: Board of Supervisors chamber, Roanoke County, Va.
District: Monticello, Albemarle County, Va.
Regional: Statue of Liberty, New York, N.Y.
Remember, agents, by your work there will soon be realized a grand and glorious victory for the forces of Agenda 21, and the world’s untied nations will be subjugated once and for all into the benevolent bosom of the United Nations of Agenda 21.
Now, go forth, bold warriors, and SUSTAIN!!!
Agenda 21 radio, that’s a show I won’t be tuning in.
“ICLEI is the local arm of the United Nations and is out of Bonn, Germany”
If its “out of” Bonn, how the hell is it local?
Sorry Paul but that lost is some of the purest insanity I’ve seen in a while. And many of your “facts” are dubious.
I bet those of you in California have stockpiled your bunkers with water and canned goods too, huh Paul?
I wonder if that guy holding a kid in his underground bunker is worried about ICLEI.
Kristen’
‘If its “out of” Bonn, how the hell is it local?’ That’s the point, why is an agency from Bonn, Germany influencing local communities in the U.S by implementing United Nations policies. Just a little bit of research will give you the answers.
Paul Preston
Now, go forth, bold warriors, and SUSTAIN!!!
Comment by Warren — February 2, 2013 @ 1:44 pm
Warren. Welcome back from the yawning abyss of gun thread hell. Isn’t it fun to talk about some different nuts for a change? And this one had me clutching my sides in laughter!
“Agenda 21 radio, that’s a show I won’t be tuning in.
Comment by Debbie — February 2, 2013 @ 6:47 pm”
hohum another intolerant and ignorant liberal comment, what, are you afraid to learn something debbiedoo
pammala, I learn the extent of your ignorance everytime you post. Just when I think it can’t get any worse, you show up to prove that it’s boundless. You and all the TP’s have the freedom to be paranoid and live in fear. I choose to opt out of that little group. But you or Paul be sure to let us know when some jack booted gov’t thugs show up to take you guns and move you to a tiny little apartment. Btw, I’m buying lots of stock in tin foil and kevlar. Thanks for the stock tip, Paul.
Debbie,
Keep in mind that she’s anonymously ignorant, along with Frank, applewood, Suzie, Leon, mikeO and some others.
That suggests a number of possibilities, including:
1) She’s a liberal masquerading as a conservative in order to make right-wing thinkers look dumb.
2) She’s a conservative who really believes the stuff she posts here, but realizes how insane it sounds, and would never want to attach her true identity to those views because it would be personally embarrassing.
If it’s the latter, you might want to express sympathy to her. Because it must be rough, living in a world where you can’t express your TRUE opinions without fearing that other people you respect would lose all respect for you.
There are other possibilities — those are but two. Whatever, it pretty much means the comments aren’t worth paying little attention to.
Keep in mind that she’s anonymously ignorant, along with Frank, applewood, Suzie, Leon, mikeO and some others
Very nice personal attack from the host.
But Dan has omitted the biggest reason conservatives might remain anonymous, or at least the reason I do. It’s because we don’t want leftwing cranks bothering us at our homes or taking quotes out of context to try to harm our businesses. And just because I’m a good enough sport that my motto is “what goes on here stays here”, I don’t think for a minute liberals in here would play by the same rules.
One little correction, Dan. The comments aren’t worth paying much attention to. She does have my sympathy, no matter who she is.
Warren, Debbie, Dan, Wayne
See how the Agenda 21 folks play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7NiX5QrO24&feature=player_embedded
http://www.defendruralamerica.com/files/DBOF01_CSG01.pdf
Paul Preston
Agenda 21 Radio
paul@aetalkradio.com
Paul, you seem like a nice well-meaning guy. I honestly hope you don’t watch your entire life go by while worrying about this stuff.
Suzie, nothing you have ever posted would have to be taken out of context. They are damning enough as is.
Paul, the company sued and they may win. I hope they do. As for Agenda 21, sorry, I was born without the conspiracy theory gene.
But Dan has omitted the biggest reason conservatives might remain anonymous, or at least the reason I do. It’s because we’re scared to death that our atrocious behavior on this blog will come back to bite us on the ass in real life. And just because I’m an advocate for people taking personal responsibility for what they say and do, I don’t think for a minute that I should have to do that myself.
Comment by Suzie – High Priestess of the Self-Important Delusion — February 3, 2013 @ 12:59 pm
Fixed.
We worry about your affairs/life about as much as we worry about UN Stormtroopers forcibly removing us from our homes. Feeding that ego of yours must be utterly exhausting.