A mandala for the Monday open thread
Shot by Dan in the upstairs lobby of the Grandin Theatre
“I saw that everything, all paths I had been following, all steps I had taken, were leading back to a single point — namely, to the mid-point. It became increasingly plain to me that the mandala is the centre. It is the exponent of all paths . . . I knew that in finding the mandala as an expression of the self I had attained what was for me the ultimate.”
Carl Jung
February 4, 2013 - 10:20 AM
I haven’t seen much pertaining to the “political correctness” driven growth in female particpation in the seamier side of war. Said another way, women are now able to, if “qualified”, participate in mortal hand-to-hand combat.
Regarding how far the military has been opened in terms of enabling women to actively participate in just about every kind of battlefield and forum there is…….when do ya think that young women…including some high school girls…will be required …to register…for the Selective Service…during the ages of 18-25?
I just wonder….
Dan Cathy learned from a married gay man and the executive director of Campus Pride learned from Cathy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shane-l-windmeyer/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a_b_2564379.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=386819,b=facebook
“I haven’t seen much pertaining to the “political correctness” driven growth in female particpation in the seamier side of war. Said another way, women are now able to, if “qualified”, participate in mortal hand-to-hand combat.”
–Frank
Seriously? “Mortal, hand-to-hand combat?” Shall we make those women ride horses into battle, too?
Our male soldiers have seen very little hand-to-hand combat in the past 40 years. In case you hadn’t noticed, warfare has changed a lot in that time.
Having a woman around when a guy is answering the call of nature in a foxhole, now that’s a SERIOUS concern. Why, that might give our brave men in uniform the willies! And, there are always cooties to consider!
“[Chick Fil-A CEO] Dan Cathy learned from a married gay man and the executive director of Campus Pride learned from Cathy.”
–Comment by gdad
gdad, Dan Cathy is not the CEO of Chick-Fil-A.
I am! Don’t you read Channel 10′s website? Jeez.
(Soon, we’re going to be open only on Sundays!)
Dang it, I missed out on that, Dan.
Watching a little Sports Center at lunch. Wow, the refs missed to blatant calls against Baltimore on that last drive. Congrats to the Ravens and boo/hiss to the officials!
2 blatant calls.
“Dang it, I missed out on that, Dan.”
Please address me as “Sir.”
sooo, dano,
Are you saying women will be barred from hand-to-hand combat?
What are your thoughts on requiring young women (years 18-25) to be required to register for the Selective Service, like young men are?
Or, will the politically correct thingy to do… be to EXCLUDE young women from being required to register for the Selective Service?
Please dano, give it your best shot. Seriously.
Frank…why..do…you post…like you’re…having..a seizure.
Hey Dano,
When can I expect to see your take on Al Gore selling Current TV to Al Jazeera to make a profit? Yes that Al Jazeera owned by Qatar! Do you know what else Qatar owns….Petroleum (Oil/Gas for those of you who dont know what petroleum is)..Lots of it…Hypocrisy or no?
Do you have an opinion on the “report” that Sen. Bob Menendez likes to do his “offshore drilling” in the Dominican? Do you think he will get appointed to the Foreign Relations Committee? Your readers want to know your take and opinion!!!!!!
Come on Dan! Wander out of left field once in a while!! I want you to play center field for the team!! Dont ignore BIG stories!!!
PP,
If I understand your message correctly, I’m a hypocrite because I don’t write the stuff you want me to write. Is that correct?
Do you write the stuff I want you to write? Just wondering . . .
Uh-Oh…trouble in “paradise”…time to grab the popcorn and watch the show…
Monday, Feb 4, 2013 09:38 AM EST
Tea Party Unhappy About Karl Rove’s War On The Tea Party
Karl Rove is backing a new effort to stop the Tea Party in its tracks. The Tea Party is, predictably, not pleased.
American Crossroads is backing a new group, the Conservative Victory Project, which will enlist big-money GOP donors to fight back against Tea Party groups that are looking to oust Republican establishment candidates in the 2014 primaries. The idea is to prevent any more Todd Akins or Richard Mourdocks from making it through to the national stage.”
[...]
“If Karl Rove wants to throw out bad candidates, I have four words for him. John McCain and Mitt Romney,” wrote Judson Phillips, the head of Tea Party Nation.
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/04/tea_party_unhappy_about_karl_roves_war_on_the_tea_party/
Hillary,
I have to side on with the Tea Party on this. I don’t want Karl Rove to stamp them out of politics. That’s outrageous! How dare he?
Not correct. I have no hidden message Mr. Casey. I asked you two questions and i hope you dont dodge them. I just want your opinion…nothing more nothing less. That is why the blog is such a good idea. It produces interaction between different perspectives….whether there is approval or lack of consensus is up to the readers.
This is your show. You make the rules. Your readers just live by them. Remember you get paid to write opinion and I do not. This is not about me. I have no animosity towards you and i did not call you a hypocrite. I asked if you thought Mr. Gore was a hypocrite for his actions and asked for you take on Mr. Menendez..with some zest! Will you give an opinion on either topic?
hey Kristen,
Sooo, there you are! Hi there!
What do you think of the eventual requirement for young women to, like young men are already required to do, register for the Selective Service?
Ol’ dano won’t touch that one, I guess ’cause he’s not a woman. But he IS a lib… Oh well, for some reason, he’s not touching it.
Are ya for it, or against it?
Darn it Dan, why can’t you cater to the right like “the good media” does? What is wrong with you that you refuse to join such a stellar bunch of fair and balanced journalists as WND, Breibart, weasel zippers or pajamas media? Doesn’t “the truth” matter to you Dan? What kind of Merican are you?
I guess everyone’s allowed to make money except Al Gore.
PP…welcome to the free market. Gore had an asset for which there was demand and he sold it to the highest bidder. Vive la market!
Gore’s richer than Romney now…maybe that’s why it’s such a big story.
PP,
Jounalist Dan isn’t really in this racket for the truth. He’s got people he has to please.
As a journalist maybe not Dan, but as an American do you not want to see the TEApers go the way of the dinosaur? Really?
Dan I just can’t imagine how you can ignore those huge gigantic stories listed by PP. Of course if you did write about those things, you’d have to face the wrath of Bob “Not Metro Enough” H.
Tea Party Nation? They have their own nation now?
Fer reals dough, dan… eye mean hey Sir. When you gonna learn us about how General Lee was the man, and women need to make us sammiches?
Yes Debbie, Lunaticastan.
Dan, FYI, today is the day Obama was required to submitt his budget to the Senate. Shockingly, he has missed the deadline. I will be interested to see how the Senate and House can be blamed? This lapse is 100% on Obama….period! Pathetic.
Sandi if you are referring to me…I do not consider myself a Tea Party kind of person. And for every Breitbart there is an MSNBC. Its part of the whole spectrum. I am simply asking Dan a question? I dont consider it to be a “gotcha” question. I wanted his opinion. I will say I do not always agree with Dan, I know he is in left field and thats okay. But now I know…If you question Dan, You question Dans Army as well! Purty picture Ms. Saunders
PP, my opinion on Al Gore’s sale of Current TV is, I don’t care. My opinion on whether an oil company owns Al Jazerra is: it seems irrelevant. Al Gore has not called for a halt to oil production, has he?
My opinion on Mr. Menendez is that if he indeed had sex with a 16-year-old prostitute, as has been alleged, he’s a sleazeball and should resign, and prosecuted for any federal laws he broke. But let’s be careful with this one, because law enforcement authorities have been unable to substantiate any of the allegations, and the longer the pimp and his girls avoid federal agents’ attempts to interview them, the shakier the case against Menendez looks. But you’re right, the allegations are troubling.
Does that suffice?
“What do you think of the eventual requirement for young women to, like young men are already required to do, register for the Selective Service?
Ol’ dano won’t touch that one.”
–Frank
Frank, is it indeed and “eventual requirement?” Or is that something you’re hypothesizing?
Forgive me for not responding to your fantasies.
Debbie @4:22 – “Tea Party Archipelago” was too much of a mouthful, whereas “Tea Party Sandbar” gave some people the wrong idea about the group’s purpose.
“As a journalist maybe not Dan, but as an American do you not want to see the TEApers go the way of the dinosaur? Really?”
–Comment by Sandi Saunders
Sandi, the Tea Party and its positions serve as excellent examples of “the wrong way,” and in that respect they are very useful to moderates and liberals and pretty much anyone in poltics who has his or her head screwed on straight — except for old-line Republican conservatives and moderates. They are very dangerous to people like Sens. Dick Lugar and Bob Bennet, and moderate Republicans like Delaware’s Mike Castle. The Democrats never could have beaten any of those guys in a general election. They had a better after TPers won those GOP nominations.
Now, there’ we’re got Democratic senator from Indiana and Delaware — all because of the Tea Party!
Thank you so much, Laura!
Hi Dan,
…most assuradly it is eventual.
I mean, look at the progress that’s being made right now! Why in the world will the integrate the military “army” stop with just being able to now do what men soldiers do, militarily? Why not take it to the next step, and include women in the FULL responsiblity currently now being applied only to men?
Personally, I’m not in favor of women being required to register for the Selective Service. Does that make it any easier for you and your lib-female minions to offer opinions on this?
Ultimate progress regarding full integration of the genders in the military will be achieved when women are required, same as men, to register with the Selective Service between the ages of 18-25.
After that, it will be full membership and participation in the Draft, if that should ever return.
I mean, that’s what they want, right? Hmmm. Why not just do it, NOW?
PP, re: 3:41
You will probably never hear Dan opine on issues that casts any “worshiped liberal” in a negative light, until their actions become so extreme as to disgust even the most committed liberal sheeple.
Instead, in typical alinsky style, they will “ridicule”, “ignore the premise” or just call you names because of your queries. Get used to it….
In fact, you will often find many of the sheeple here, completely unaware of information they have not read on extreme liberal sites like hufpost (which many here regularly cite as “news info”), or “like Dan” who get their marching orders from “talking points”.
Your example of al gore becoming richer than Romney, by pimping his business to those whom he previously castigated as evil, is a great example; as is your example of Sen. Menendez abusing his office by hooking up with 12 year old forced prostitutes (as intelligent people have read in the news).
Examples of ignorance abound…It is easy to be angry at these folks because they do not have the desire or ability to fairly evaluate or investigate issues; but it is better to show pity on them and hope that someday the “scales will fall from their eyes, and they might see”.
Or just remember the words of Jesus, “forgive them, for they know not what they do”. (although some actually do).
Wow… before I could post my response, Dan is now throwing Menendez under the bus… are the sheeple now against liberal senators abusing young girls?
As noted the tide turns quickly.
Maybe if Dan gets more talking points regarding al gore’s business dealings PP will have seen the lib’s throw 2 of their own under the bus.
I too would miss the tea puppets because they were the greatest spellers in the world! And here are 23 examples for the Orthographers out there…
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teabonics-ridiculous-misspelled-tea-party-protest-signs-gallery-1.1918
“…most assuradly it is eventual.
I mean, look at the progress that’s being made right now! Why in the world will the integrate the military “army” stop with just being able to now do what men soldiers do, militarily? Why not take it to the next step, and include women in the FULL responsiblity currently now being applied only to men?”
–Frank
Frank, tell us the date that women are slated to register for the draft, and I’ll give you my opinion. Include a link to a reputable source, please.
So have any of the gunners yet addressed the sniper who got shot by his buddy with PTSD at the shooting range? Stunning how there’s complete silence on this issue. Heck, a farmer who guns down a malevolent groundhog is good for at least a dozen posts from that crew.
Just like the NRA…run and hide when things get tough. Pitiful, JohnW and Jack.
Dan re: 4:59
As I suggest to liberal sheeple earlier about informing themselves. I went to the “tea party” website (which I have not seen before). I read their 10 “core beliefs” as listed below: will you let us know which ones you disagree with? You can use numbers if you like.
I am sure I will get an intelligent and informed response once you investigate this issue.
1. Eliminate Excessive Taxes
2. Eliminate the National Debt
3. Eliminate Deficit Spending
4. Protect Free Markets
5. Abide by the Constitution of the United States
6. Promote Civic Responsibility
7. Reduce the Overall Size of Government
8. Believe in the People
9. Avoid the Pitfalls of Politics
10. Maintain Local Independence
“But you’re right, the allegations are troubling.”
One girl with a hazy memory in a story pushed by the wingnut website Daily Caller does not an issue make. Has everyone forgotten a certain right-wing radio personality’s penchant for Dominican prostitutes?
“…tell us the date that women are slated to register for the draft…”
Short of WWIII there will never be another draft. The Hawks have learned that the quickest way to ruin a war is when everyone has skin in the game.
34.Wow… before I could post my response, Dan is now throwing Menendez under the bus… are the sheeple now against liberal senators abusing young girls?
As noted the tide turns quickly.
Maybe if Dan gets more talking points regarding al gore’s business dealings PP will have seen the lib’s throw 2 of their own under the bus.
Comment by mike o — February 4, 2013 @ 5:32 pm
Let’s see now. If Dan, or any person who thinks with a real brain, says that menendez should be thoroughly investigated for the alleged behavior, he is a sheeple. And then if he says that if the allegations are true, menendez should resign and be fully punished for any illegal activities on his part, that’s being a coward and throwing him under the bus. So what mikeo is saying is that no matter which side you take a measured intelligent response is wrong. Good thinking there mikeo. When you finally finish untying the knot you just twisted yourself into maybe you’ll be able to walk again.
OK,
Maybe I am old (obviously) but I did not realize there was still draft registration for “anyone”; hell I thought we had an all volunteer service (before any libs want to call me ignorant on this subject I will admit I am).
However, assuming frank is correct; and we, as a country believe that guys are girls and girls are guys and everything should be “equal”.
What is the problem with “everyone” (guys, girls, homosexuals, lesbians, transvestites, (hope I didn’t miss anyone)) registering to protect their country?
If frank is correct, why should the burden be, solely, placed on “males”?
Hillary, those signs are so sad.
mike o / aka Henny Penny….the sky is not falling and there is no
evidence that Menendez did anything illegal…
Trail of Sen. Bob Menendez Investigation Leads To Dead End in Dominican Republic – Published: Monday, Feb. 4, 2013 – 4:11 am
SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic — “The shadowy tipster who made explosive allegations involving U.S. Sen. Bob Menendez and underage prostitutes in the Dominican Republic named names. He gave descriptions of the women, and in some cases, phone numbers and addresses.
Despite those details, the women are nowhere to be found.”
http://www.sacbee.com/2013/02/04/5163601/trail-of-sen-bob-menendez-investigation.html#storylink=cpy
Wayne, re: 6:02 “any person who thinks with a brain”
Nice try, however the “knot” is “untied” when the liberals “decide” to throw their own “under the bus” (for reasons I stated earlier).
I know it seems complicated but, If you truly don’t “get it” I will gladly explain it to you further… but I think you do.
Do you play checkers or chess???
“Tea Party Archipelago” was too much of a mouthful, whereas “Tea Party Sandbar” gave some people the wrong idea about the group’s purpose.
The purpose of the Tea Party was an is to curb government spending and prevent taxes from going up. The Communist Party has determined this is a threat, and has distributed its talking points to the willing far-left MSM. Unwitting minions then take up the charge.
Having a perverted sense of humor, I think they are a riot…my favorite is
MAKE ENGLISH AMERICA’S “OFFICAL” LANGUAGE….oh yeah..
I mean logically think to yourself: “In these depressed times caused by out-of-control government spending, who in their right mind could oppose controlling spending?” The obvious answer is “Nobody!” But yet the Communist influence in the media and in the Democrat Party has tried to convince us, incredibly, that we should spend even more. Think what you’re being asked to believe, leftwing minions. Use even the logic given to the average fifth-grader.
“Does that suffice?” Dan that was a beautiful response! Congress needs us in DC to take care of all these situations! What we could accomplish! Ohh Dan we are just on opposite sides of the coin!
Although I dont know how you could not care about Global Warming Guru Al Gore selling out to Middle East Big Oil Control? If that does not scream hypocrite I do not know what is! Remember Oil=Bad. Word is he tried to get the sale in 2012 to get a lower capital tax! Now he is worth more than Romney! And if Romney was bad man for having money…Gore must be Satan!
Thanks Dan for answering! You made a young lads day!
Hillary, those signs are so sad.
The notion of leftwingers in here making fun of misspellings is a laugh riot.
“Hillary, those signs are so sad.”
My personal favorite.
I had reservations about the sale of Current TV to Al Jezeera, but I saw an interview with Gore, and his explanations were reasonable. He decided to sell to Al Jezeera because they are a well-respected news agency that provides hard news on a worldwide scale, and they cover the climate change issue with a gusto not seen in US news networks. He also acknowledged the critics who howled about his selling to big oil interests, but in the end, he felt the deal was fair to all the investors and employees who worked very hard to make Current a critical success. Good enough for me.
I do think it a shame that he was denied the Presidency in 2000. He would have been very good, I think!
Frank will link to a reputable source about he time he links to source for all those things he made up the death of our ambassador.
“Jounalist Dan isn’t really in this racket for the truth. ”
Gee, suzie, pp was asking for “truth,” just an opinion.
Hillary, re: 4:34
Any opinion of those who support your issues? Just a quick search…
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621
http://www.greatdreams.com/political/bush-protests-inauguration.htm
http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html
Now, there’ we’re got Democratic senator from Indiana and Delaware — all because of the Tea Party!
Comment by Dan Casey — February 4, 2013 @ 4:59 pm
And the House had the biggest GOP swing ever in 2010 because of Obama. Right?
I see a few of the buffoons in Richmond are up to their old “we-must-control-women’s-reproductive-rights” tricks…
Bills to remove the requirement in the Virginia Code that a woman undergo the medically unnecessary ultrasound prior to an abortion have been killed in a House subcommittee and a Senate committee. The right wingers will have their pound of flesh no matter that this is an unnecessary added cost to those who most often cannot afford additional
expenses and an intrusion into private family matters.
Remember last year? After a resounding cry of outrage after the Virginia General Assembly passed legislation to require a transvaginal ultrasound for any one women daring to want to terminate a pregnancy – republicans abandoned that tactic and instead passed a bill requiring a transabdominal ultrasound under the pretense that it must be done to determine the gestational age of the fetus. Only because of pressure, the new law does make exceptions for victims of rape or incest.
Punitive legislation is poor public policy and these bills are both.
Jason,
You do understand that gore’s “climate change” issue is based on evil “oil”. That al jezeera is a part of the oil cartel… that when he sells out to them he sells out to the “oil” that he wants people to believe he is against?
His sale now makes him richer than mitt Romney… his sale makes actually flies in the face of anyone who might believe he was something other than a self indulgent political hack.
I shake my head…
Actually, I KNEW EXACTLY what mikeO was going to write on this blog after I had responded about Menendez. I also KNEW that my response would cause him to express some distress on this blog. I’ve got mikeO pegged. I can read his mind.
Btw, the bizarro thought processes in that mind conclude that a call for investigating such allegations and prosecuting them, if substantiated, make me a sheeple/tool/flipflopper cretin. And that same swamp of a mind likes to imagine the rape of my daughter.
Bizarro doesn’t begin to cover it!
“The purpose of the Tea Party was an is to curb government spending and prevent taxes from going up.”
-Suzie
That may indeed have been the ORIGINAL purpose. But, if you would look around, many of the Tea Parties have been hijacked by Tenth Amenders, nullificationists, and stalwart soldiers of the fight Agenda 21 who believe greenways (and Bike Virginia) are part of the UN’s plot to seize control of land-use planning in localities. They’re nutjobs.
As a result, many of the sensible-minded original founders of these groups got out real fast, their heads spinning like tops from all the strange tales they heard from conspiracists. Or they got shoved out when they urged common sense.
They’re nutjobs.
These are the same Alinsky tactics the left used against the Tea Party that they use with strong conservative candidates. Slander them, make up lies, try to make them into bad people. See, a group that called for the desperately needed spending cuts was a threat to obama and won a lot of support. Dan did his part on the hatchet job. I’m sure he will be rewarded. Perhaps another weekend fete at the Homestead? Maybe another plaque from some leftwing group.
“Dan did his part on the hatchet job. I’m sure he will be rewarded. Perhaps another weekend fete at the Homestead?”
–Suzie
Suzie, thanks for the offer! You are so kind. Please send me your address, so I can tell the Homestead where to send the bill, for the 3-room suite.
45.Wayne, re: 6:02 “any person who thinks with a brain”
Nice try, however the “knot” is “untied” when the liberals “decide” to throw their own “under the bus” (for reasons I stated earlier).
I know it seems complicated but, If you truly don’t “get it” I will gladly explain it to you further… but I think you do.
Do you play checkers or chess???
Comment by mike o — February 4, 2013 @ 6:18 pm
When you can show me any place or any time that any of the posters on
this blog who come from the progressive group has voiced approval of any politician or any adult who has a fetish for consorting with 12 or 13 year
old prostitutes, you point it out to me. Otherwise we will continue to treat your ridiculous posts for what they are—a particularly odious type of barnyard manure.
As for checkers or chess, I play both. I enjoy many other games as well.
Usually the game I play is predicated on the age and intellectual capacity
of the person with whom I am playing. With Republicans and right wingers
it is usually Chute and Ladders! Based on your posts I would think your speed would be more like Candyland or Go Fish.
And lest we forget what else the tea party brought to politics:
the recent game of chicken over the debt ceiling,
the harping on the President’s birth certificate,[birthers]
“if it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down”.
the President is a” Muslim” “fascist” “socialist” “Kenyan” “dictator”,
“death panels”
and who could forget,
Christine O Donnell “I am not a witch”
Wayne,
You seem to have forgotten that mikeO doesn’t deal well in the realm of fact. To him, beliefs are fact, and actual facts are inconvenient nothings.
Comment by mike o — February 4, 2013 @ 6:54 pm
I haven’t the vaguest idea what you are referring to…my post at 4:34pm?
So you also don’t read numbers?
Suzie, thanks for the offer! You are so kind. Please send me your address, so I can tell the Homestead where to send the bill, for the 3-room suite.
You don’t need me, Dan. The TLA, SCLC, NARAL or somebody will take care of it. The OWS would send you except none of them works.
Heck, over on another thread mike O had to be schooled on how burglars work. Astounding.
mike o, The allegations against Menendez so far rest on hearsay, and if a probe produces actionable evidence, he should be held to account. But there are already some official records you should consider. The U.S. Customs Service has offical incident reports and handwritten affidavits from Rush Limbaugh admitting that he’d tried to get around customs when returning from a “tour” to the Dominican Republic with 29 Viagra (drug for flaccid men) prescribed to someone else.
Rush avoided being charged by saying the reason the label gave his doctor’s name as patient was to protect his own privacy, but admitted they were for him. The enabler was the doctor supposedly helping him avoid fraud prosecution over buying black market strong narcotics by doctor shopping and through an aide. In other words, same M.O. in both cases: Rush buying plausible deniabilty by laundering his drug acquistions through an associate.
There was no further explanation from Rush about his time in the Dominican Republic with the “borrowed” Viagra. The Dominican Republic has a reputation for sex tourism, including the exploitation of underage boys and girls. The childless Limbaugh, who has multiple ex-wives who won’t speak to the press about him, had traveled there with four other men, but no female companions.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1753947.html
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/rush-limbaughs-dominican-stag-party?page=0
Mike O, give some thought to whether you’d ever need Viagra prescribed in someone else’s name for a trip to the Dominican Republic with four other men. Rush Limbaugh did.
Hillary, you do know who played the game of chicken with the debt ceiling? Barack Obama! In 2006, he called raising the debt ceiling irresponsible and immoral! He did more than play chicken with it though…he voted against it! How times have changed.
PS. He became a champion of gay marriage in June of 2012.
“Our male soldiers have seen very little hand-to-hand combat in the past 40 years. In case you hadn’t noticed, warfare has changed a lot in that time.”
Seen a lot of combat lately have you Dan? Of that’s right I forgot, they don’t teach hand-to-hand in combat anymore because no one ever gets into a H2H when conducting MOUT. They just spend extra days on the range learning to spray and pray without aiming, right? Cause Lord knows you can’t aim accurately with a rifle with a pistol grip.
On a different note, John McCain is racist for his tweet about Iran’s insane president but John Kerry isn’t sexist for his comment about having “big heels” to fill? Really?
Mike o,
We no longer have the draft. However, males between the ages of 18-25 still need to register with the Selective Service…I guess “just in case.” I registered in the 1970′s, my sons registered in the 1990′s.
I am not in favor of the pc/gender neutral process which is permeating through-out the military. However, I do agree with the concept of equality, and therein lies the rub, for me. Others are heck-bent on full equality in all things military, and I believe their goal is to eliminate gender bias from the entire military organization. At this point, who knows, maybe they are correct.
Now, to your point. I understand your conceptual point that if a male still needs to register with the selective service, then ALL persons between the ages of 18-25 need to do so as well. However, it pains me to think that my grand daughters might be placed into a situation where they have to register with the Selective Service. My grand sons? I’m good with it. I guess I’m old-fashioned, eh?
I just wonder how many libbers ever thought about the logical next step or two to follow ……after women got the right to be assigned to combat platoons.
Yippee Ki Yaa for the libs!
“…they no not what they do…”
hay dano,
Don’t be silly! I don’t have a date for when people OTHER than males between the ages of 18-25 will have to reigister with the Selective Service. But, consider this: when will the gender-neutralization of the military be “enough” for the pc-libbers who have driven the process up to now?
Hey, dano! I know! Let’s use NOW as the date you asked for! And, since the military is essentially gender-neutral now, what do you think about your daughter needing to register with the Selective Service between the ages of 18-25? And, to be clear, dano, I am NOT “fantasizing” about your daughter going into the military. I’ve already said my piece on that with my own grand daughters.
What say you, dano? Does it seem to you like a logical next step that pc-libbers will lead us to in the military…people other than males being required to register for the Selective Service?
If not, why not?
Thanks.
“…John McCain is racist…”
Why yes. Yes he is!
Frank, thanks for acknowledging that draft registration is conjecture on your part. That’s big of you.
For the record, it doesn’t bother me if you spend your time imagining my daughter registering, or if you bring that up here, or even ask me to contemplate it. I think even you would agree registering is slightly different than what mikeO was talking about.
But Frank, let’s not be a bore about it by fixating on it and bringing it up repeatedly, eh?
The Tea party was made by Karl Rove and will be dismantled by Karl Rove that is if he can recover from the clobbering he took this past election. The basis of the Tea Party as Suzie states was to cut government spending and to keep taxes from increasing. As both concepts have now been proven the completely wrong economics for the last five years (check out England’s long recession) the Tea Party has lost all credibility. Rove will now have to build a base using real economic theory in order to compete with the Democrats. Bernanke, so criticised by the Tea Party, has proven the hero of the Great Recession as is Obama for keeping the GOP from enacting any of their riduclous economic measures. 2009 to 2012 will go down in history for Rove’s using the Tea Party’s mob mentality by his pushing stupid economics to try and win elections. The Citizens of the US proved much smarter and civilized than Rove’s Mob and has put the Tea Party wimpering into the sunset.
Richard Beason, I hear you and I hope you’re right. However . . . things have taken an even uglier turn with the recent gun stuff. My concern is that a small number of whacked-out gunners (not like anyone on this blog) will pull something. Recall, the SA started out with a bunch of beer-hall patriots. It grew into something quite different, and useful for awhile, until Hitler decided he had to put them down like rabid dogs.
77.Richard Beason, I hear you and I hope you’re right. However . . . things have taken an even uglier turn with the recent gun stuff. My concern is that a small number of whacked-out gunners (not like anyone on this blog) will pull something. Recall, the SA started out with a bunch of beer-hall patriots. It grew into something quite different, and useful for awhile, until Hitler decided he had to put them down like rabid dogs.
Comment by Dan Casey — February 5, 2013 @ 1:08 am
This is a real problem. In t5he past twenty years there are various estimates that the number of guns in the U.S. has increased from around 200 million to around 300 million. Yet a recent study by the Violence Policy Center which has tracked these stats for 35 years shows that the percentage of households where there is a gun on the premises has decreased from 54% to 32%. More and more guns are being concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer people and a significant portion of the increased guns are being owned by the anti-government folks who think they are going to overthrow the government with their AR-15′s and their Glocks.
“But Frank, let’s not be a bore about it by fixating on it and bringing it up repeatedly, eh?”
Uhh, Dan, this is Frank you’re talking to. It wouldn’t be Frank unless he asked the same “question” eleventy-seven times.
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A hatchet job indeed. And who’s babbling about an “underage girl”? This girl is 21 years old. And says she’s never met him.
“However, it pains me to think that my grand daughters might be placed into a situation where they have to register with the Selective Service.”
Who cares what “pains” you? Maybe if we start sending our girls overseas we’ll be a little more descriminatory about what idioti,c pointless, and expensive military boondoggles we engage in. See Hay Frank? Even people like you might get a little less enthusiastic about war with Iran if your girls have to fight in it. I’d say that’s a good thing. Cheers!
77. Dan – You have to have faith in the American People. Overall we are a pretty sharp bunch as evidenced by the most recent election. We failed to step up in 2010 and go to the polls, but we have learned that lesson for at least the short-term. The nay sayers are sucking wind as the economy improves and the 401(k)s are rising. It is important that the media, especially sites like yours, keeps the sane up on important matters to make sure we never forget 2010 and the disaster of the Tea Party.
What is the “Chicken-little” gene and when will they find it? Or why it is so selective?
There is no effort toward “gender-neutralization of the military”. There is an effort to recognize that due to a shortage in men volunteering to serve (the multiple deployments ring any bells) and the stark reality that women HAVE BEEN in combat since…well a long, long time, this is recognition of that service and gives them the pay and promotions that come with the territory when done by a man that they were not able to get.
It is and will remain voluntary for BOTH to serve and BOTH to have battlefield responsibilities. Until such time as service can no longer be just voluntary.
Quit being a putz and respect the service of BOTH men and women in our armed forces.
Since women are volunteering in such numbers as to make this happen, I think the Selective Service issue is a moot point. They already serve and they have NEVER had to!
Sandi,
The Selective Service issue is not a moot point.
The Selective Service requires all males between the ages of 18-25, including gays, to register, while excluding all women, including lesbians, from registering.
Shouldn’t persons of all shapes, sizes, genders, races, etc. be required to register…not just males, including gays?
“The Selective Service requires all males between the ages of 18-25, including gays, to register, while excluding all women, including lesbians, from registering.”
–Frank
Frank, you’re being disingenuous. Yesterday you were saying women have to register, too.
dano, ….you’re not coherant.
Please go back to the first post on this thread, re-read it, think about it a bit, then see if your post at 2:50 pm makes any sense.
My point all along is that young males ARE required to register with the Selective Service, and despite the gender neutrality achieved by gender integration troughout the military, young women AREN’T required to register.
Is that fair, dano? Why require gay, minority and non-minority young males to have exclusive responsibility to register? Why exclude women and lesbians from registering?
In this or any other context, Hey Frank, it IS a moot point. The Congress decides that and they also decide the Equal Rights Amendment. Until they pass the ERA, they cannot in any kind of good conscience require women to register for Selective Service same as men (even when it is a formality). After that, yes, they can, and should.