Are you saying that there has not been a vote on any obama-proposed budget? If there has, please go ahead and tell us how many democrats voting for it.

Ok, Dan, I’ll spare you the indignity of having to say, “why Frank, you already KNOW that no democrat has been so politically stupid as to vote for an obama-proposed budget…not even one”!

Ok, I’ll say it for you.

Not one dem has voted for a budget proposed by obama.

Sandi I think it also has something to do with the tightness cutting off the oxygen to their brains…causes cognitive problems.

Again, the asserted “facts” are shifting as the RWers are challenged on them.

At first, they argued: “Obama has not proposed a budget in FOUR YEARS! In FOUR YEARS!”

Then when it was pointed out this was untrue, they looked it up, muttered to themselves, “Oh sh–, got that one wrong!” then shrugged and said, “Well, he hasn’t proposed a budget THAT CAN PASS CONGRESS, SO THERE!”

I don’t mean to hurt any tender feelings, but that statement is completely meaningless, because whether a budget can pass Congress is entirely up to Congress, not the president. A federal budget is in no way a take-it-or-leave it proposition. Congress actually has the power to rewrite the whole budget to its liking, and then give it to the president to sign or veto.

Once those facts slapped them in the face, the RWers tried again:

“Yeah, but NOT ONE Democrat voted for Obama’s budget! NOT ONE!” they cried.

That was technically true, but it was completely deceptive at the same time. Nobody voted on Obama’s budget because it never got introduced. Why? Politics.

What’s actually been happening is Congress (and goes both for Republicans and Democrats) don’t want to pass a budget. Because that would force them to cast a vote on deficit spending, tax increases, and other politically charged matters. The House is up for re-election every 2 years and so is one-third of the Senate. Budget votes can easily hurt vulnerable members. Neither side has an overwhelming majority. A shift of a handful of seats in either chamber can alter who has the majority.

So they ignore it, except for gimmicks like the Ryan budget that passed the House, which Boehner only allowed a vote on because he knew it didn’t have a snowball’s chances of passing in the Senate. But even that cost him politically in the 2012 election, because the GOP lost seats and its majority is smaller now that it was before.

None of this matters to the budget-harpers, though. No matter what, nobody’s ever going to get them off the dime that the principal fault is Obama’s.

Sandi,

The problem is, it’s difficult for many RWers to distinguish facts from things that aren’t fact at all. Once they believe something, they believe it’s a fact whether it is or not. The examples abound on this blog.

Frank, I realize part of being a right winger is that the blinders are so tight you do not feel the fall, but you need to let it go, you lost this one.

not everything leads back to a lying president who cheats on his wife while “at work” near the oval office, and who is idolized by virtually all you libs and the lib press.

but to your point, hypocrisy leads there pretty quickly, doesn’t it?

It didn’t take 19 seconds to cause THAT house of cards to come crumbling down, did it, dano? Nope, all it took was a blue dress.

What else ya got?

Comment by Frank — February 15, 2013 @ 10:31 am

To heyfrank, every discussion and every thread traces back to Bill and Hillary Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, and a stained blue dress.All of U.S.
history and all domesticand foreign policy Talk about a fixation!