The Hagel nomination: My, how fast their minds change
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Thursday, June 20, 2013
THE ROANOKE TIMES
Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
Sir Walter Scott, Marmion, Canto vi. Stanza 17.
I think it is worthwhile to investigate in the following sequence:
1) Which powerful entity (or entities) have decided to make a major effort to ruin Hagel’s career. Who are his enemies beyond the Congress & Senate?
2) Then, to investigate if that same entity (or entities) have the power to influence McCain and other US senators, to support their objectives.
Such an investigation could lead one to conclude that the change of opinion that McCain has experienced in the last 6 years is just scratching the surface of the root-story.
It is just too typical to be taken seriously. McCain is determined to retire a joke.
I am liking the new layouts.
7 years between those 2 statements and that is considered a “fast” change of mind?
You need to google John Kerry who was for the gulf war before he voted against it……
Probably something to do with Hagel claiming in 2007 that the State Department was controlled by Israel. Quote” the State Department was becoming an adjunct of the Israeli Foreign Ministry. ”
http://matzav.com/senators-ask-hagel-whether-the-state-dept-is-controlled-by-israel
Marks
Interesting comment. Makes sense, too.
Two words, Senator McCain. Two words disqualify you from making a judgment call on anyone’s worthiness to serve our country: Sarah Palin.
You’re destroying your legacy, one stupid soundbite at a time.
Time to pack it in, Senator.
BobH,
I reckon you could say McCain was for Hagel before he was against him, eh?
No Dan,
Likely he found out more about Hagel in those 7 years that took place in between. And doesn’t like what he saw. I can’t say I blame him. This guy was totally unprepared for his confirmation hearing.
What is your definition of “fast” Dan? Is 7 years fast?
What precisely about that sentence was wrong Henry? We have jumped to the Israeli tune for a very long time. Did you see the 60 minutes interview last night when Bob Simon asked point blank about the fact that they take our money and ignore our “advice”?
“Bob Simon: While the Americans are helping you so much in your defense. Israel goes on building settlements, which is exactly what the Americans don’t want. How does that work, when you’re asking America for help and doing exactly what the Americans don’t want you to do?
Ehud Barak: You know, Bob, I prefer not to answer this question right now. You know, we are in the height of the election period. I basically think that the relationship, especially between our intelligence communities and our defense establishment, is extreme– are extremely close.
Bob Simon: You mean, between the Israelis and the Americans?
Ehud Barak: Yeah. Extremely close. And of course, we have certain differences.
Bob Simon: But how does it work? I mean, right now, Israel has just announced the building of a gigantic settlement project. This is at the same time that the Americans are providing the money for Israel’s most important defense system.
Ehud Barak: You know, we are highly grateful to the administration, to American people as a whole for this support. I don’t think that it’s relevant to the issue of Iron Dome.
Israelis argue that America’s commitment to their security must be kept separate from political disagreements between the U.S. and Israel.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50141229n
Has his opinion of Sarah Palin changed since 2008?
“Two words disqualify you from making a judgment call on anyone’s worthiness to serve our country: Sarah Palin.”
Yeah she’s a woman. You know how worthless they are. She was only elected governor because of her looks. He should have picked a man.
Nobody can mention Sarah Palin’s name without stirring a deep wellspring in Henry’s soul.
You betcha!
#13 I’m hoping Virginia can find a governor who will quit before he or she even finishes his or her term.
Henry, that old whine about her being a woman is just sad at this point. Even FOX is tired of Palin…It has nothing to do with her being a woman and you know that. As usual, you do not want a discussion, only to throw the bombs.
You can’t cure stupid Henry. That’s why I changed my vote from McCain to Obama in 2008. McCain could have picked half a dozen other well qualified candidates as VP and likely won the election. Instead he chose Sarah who only needed 6 years and I think 4 colleges to earn a bachelor’s degree and whose only foreign policy experience was looking for Russia from her front porch.
Ron, there was a picture of Sarah Palin on Facebook this weekend, with the caption, You know that Russian Meteor. I saw it from my house!
markj,
Are you suggesting some sort of conspiracy?
Debbie: I think you meant obama saw it when he finally visited the 58th state.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
McCain has never been known for making good decisions.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/06/nation/na-aviator6
Of course this has nothing to do with the fact that Hagel, who was a major player in McCain’s campaign in 2000, elected to support Barack Obama in 2008.. Payback is a bitch and McCain admitted as much over the weekend.
Mike O#19 – not really a conspiracy. History is full of cases where a special interest entity acquired power legally under then-current-law to such an extreme that it could crush all opposing interests and force decisions which are not in. The best interest of the society.
In such cases, societies typically end up taking one of the following paths:
1) they change the laws to weaken the entity – think Teddy Roosevelt and the Trust Busters,
2) they descend into a bloody “social cleansing” that destroys the entity – think the French Revolution, or
3) the society rots from within and disappears- think the Roman Empire.
Henry | February 18, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Yeah she’s a woman. You know how worthless they are. She was only elected governor because of her looks. He should have picked a man.
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Stupid knows no gender, Henry, and I care even less about it than stupid does. Stupid doesn’t care about looks, either. And if you’re going to brag about Palin’s public service, the least you could do is point to terms in public office that she actually completed. Oh wait… Oops. So, not only is everything that comes out of her mouth a veritable Amazon River of moron, she’s a quitter, too. I hope McCain’s loss as a result of picking her burns almost as much as the insipid finger sandwiches of stupid she serves the American public.
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She’s a cancer and having her name in any way associated with the party is pure poison.
Mark J #2, I think that “investigation” has been done and the special interests that literally own some politicians in this nation are hardly secret. The question is why so many people support them, then and now. Some things never change.
http://economyincrisis.org/content/special-interests-run-our-country-for-their-own-benefit
It certainly wasn’t a seven year span on McCain’s Hagel nomination flip flops:
02/04/13 08:37
“John McCain: Filibuster Over Chuck Hagel Nomination Not ‘Appropriate’ ”
February 13, 2013
“McCain might support Hagel filibuster”
Feb. 14, 2013, 5:31 p.m.
“Amid accusations of a GOP filibuster, Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked a vote on the nomination of Chuck Hagel to be Defense secretary Thursday [,,,]”
Several Republicans, including John McCain of Arizona, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, said Thursday afternoon on the Senate floor that while they would vote against cloture this week, they would be willing to allow the nomination to move forward when Congress returns after recess.”
http://www.rollcall.com/news/reid_says_gop_is_filibustering_hagel_but_mccain_backs_post_recess_vote-222442-1.html?pg=1
Speaking of dancing to Israel’s fiddle playing:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/02/18/rubio_heads_to_israel.html
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), “an emerging leader in the Republican Party who is considered one of the likely candidates for the 2016 US presidential race, is scheduled to meet on Wednesday in Jerusalem with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu,” the Jerusalem Post reports.
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=303616