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Friday, May 24, 2013
THE ROANOKE TIMES
A car with a statement such as that on a bumper sticker, regardless of who it’s directed at, is almost begging to be vandalized! I wouldn’t, but there are certainly folks out there that would be insulted to that point. Stupid is as stupid does!
“The life and apparent death of the ex-Los Angeles Police Department cop who declared war against police corruption has generated a social media fringe of fans who are asserting that Christopher Jordan Dorner was really a hero seeking justice, despite being a suspect in four killings.”
Yeah, I lknow I’m going to worship a guy who ALLEGEDLY killed the daughter of a guy he thought didn’t defend him ardently enough (as well as her fiance), the father of two young children, and another person. What a amazing hero!!
Sick.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-dorner-fans/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
How brilliant, call 65 million people “stupid” and think that will help them vote with you the next time. The GOTP is so hard core, they beat themselves.
I wonder If i can get this blown up for my back windshield?
http://www.powerlineblog.com/admin/ed-assets/2012/09/lemmebeclear2.jpg
So, just who IS jack lew?
Well, as far as I can tell, ol’ jack lew:
1. …is as liberal of a democrat as they come.
2. …is a protoge of the clintons.
3. …is current chief of staff to president obama…and had a bird’s eye view to the president’s involvement with Benghazi, and failed to disclose it.
4. …was “plucked” by obama from the very belly of the beast of citibank…one of the worst public offenders in the mortgage crisis, and whose leaders (Sandy Weill and Robert Rubin) in the late 1990′s managed to get bill clinton’s signature on the Gramm-Leach-Bliley bill which repealed Glass-Steagall. Had Glass-Steagall NOT been repealed, there is abundant agreement by knowledgable folks on both the left and right that the recession would not have happened as it had.
Give a helping of hypocrisy to obama.
5. …was a citibank executive who received a $960,000 “bonus” from citibank just as he joined obama’s administration…and by doing so heaped another helping of hypocrisy onto obama’s already pretty full plate.
7. …was a citibank executive who got his $960,000 bonus from citibank….just after…citibank… get’s an obama-driven tax-payer-bailout of almost $45 BILLION DOLLARS in cash (in addition to billions more in loans and loan guarantees)! Then, …obama… …personally, mind you, hires him!
Please add another heaping helping of hypocrisy to obama’s plate.
8. …was until recently an investor in a (big gasp coming…) CAYMAN ISLANDS investment vehicle (remember ugland house, libs?)! In other words, when jack lew signed his bonus check for about $1 Million, that check was under-written by the American tax-payers, including the libs on this blog (I haven’t hear any squealing from any libs about lew).
And, obama knew it all. And, yet he trashed Romney for the same CAYMA ISLANDS thingy.
Time to serve up a fresh, clean plate on which obama can heap even more copious amounts of fresh, odious hypocrisy. And, pile the same hypocrisy on a side dish for you libs.
9. …was obama’s chief-of-staff when “the white house first suggested the concept of painful budget cuts” (sequester…), according to none other than Bob Woodward, celebrated former investigative journalist for the Washington Post, in his new book, The Price of Politics.” Many folks think that ol’ jack lew was the brains behind the sequester. Now, obama blames the sequester on the republicans.
Sheesh, I thought obama would be finished by now with eating the hypocrisy that is jack lew, but he’s a glutten and keeps grabbing for more…
Now, looks like jack lew gets to be treasury secretary! and obama is gorging on hypocrisy.
…drums keep pounding a rythem to the brain, and …the beat goes on…the beat goes on…
Happy Valentine’s Day, Ron and everyone else. Ron you must have clicked on the picture, b/c when I clicked on it, I saw your comment.
I will bet Frank and Suzie’s trailer this person didn’t even vote, Sandi.
Life is the most honest mirror. My youngest son helps me coach tennis, and I took a moment the other day to watch him instruct one of our players on how to hit a serve. His mannerisms and words and tone sounded oddly familiar, then I realized those mannerisms were also mine. I was humbled and uneasy all at once.
Jason, his golf swing? I see a lot of myself in my son, but thankfully for him his swing bears no resemblance to mine…
Here’s some good news. The worlds Solar energy power has surpassed 100 gigawatts (1 gigawatt = 1 billion watts) with 30 gigs added in just ’12 alone. It is estimated that solar energy reduces CO2 emissions by 53 million tons. This is significant because solar power is actually growing faster than anticipated and the trend for the future is even better.
http://cleantechnica.com/2013/02/12/world-solar-pv-capacity-surpasses-100-gigawatts-in-2012/
that’s 53 million tons of CO2 reduced annually…
Scott, he is devoted to tennis, though he will occasionally play golf with me. He thumps me at tennis, and I return the favor on the golf course!
Why sure, pistol pete, if that’s your dream, go for it.
“is almost begging to be vandalized!”
You mean like cars that have anti-Republican stickers? Are they begging to be vandalized? How about those stickers that said “Some village in Texas is missing its idiot” or “Vote Republican. It’s easier than thinking”. Are they begging to be vandalized too?
Or is it just the ones that criticize the current president?
Yay. The Senate has just agreed to the House version of SB 1335. Private information related to CHP holders is noneya.
Hey Scott, that sounds great but they really only added at most 35 GW to the grid because they only make power 35% of the time. And since they only work part of the time nat. gas plants have to supplement them. SO really all they replace are nat. gas plants instead of coal plants. I’m guessing the actual reduction in CO2 is rather low when you do that calcuation. I’m all for solar but until we solve the energy storage problem for renewables there is no chance for them to replace coal.
“Are they begging to be vandalized too?
Or is it just the ones that criticize the current president?”
Henry, man, you really don’t read very well do you? I mean, how in the heck did you miss this part of Scott’s post?
“A car with a statement such as that on a bumper sticker, regardless of who it’s directed at, ”
See that part that says, “regardless of who it’s directed at”? Know what that means?
I guess not.
As I said, participation in Free Republic for very long is really, really bad for your brain.
“The Senate has just agreed to the House version of SB 1335. ”
Sorry to hear it. This GA is just full of bad ideas.
Henry, please read my comment again before you going smoke up my backside! “regardless of who it’s directed at” means anyone. Male/female, Lib/RW, Gay/Straight. A bit defensive are you? My comment is that whomever is being called “STUPID” may take offense and do something about it. It’s not a chance I would take putting it on my car. Now go take a pill and relax!
Well I found a new way to describe “stupid”:
Yesterday, several New Jersey Republicans in the Assembly refused to support a bill in committee that would ban people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns. Yes, really: Members of the party of self-proclaimed patriots are now protecting the right of suspected terrorists to obtain weapons.
http://blog.nj.com/njv_editorial_page/2013/02/new_jersey_republicans_who_vot.html
Artist…
Right you are. Solar power only works when the sun shines and wind power only when the wind blows (and not too MUCH wind). Neither can be “dispatched” (turned on in a hurry), so they are destined to be niche players. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use them, just that we should not expect them to fill a role they are incapable of filling.
Henry @ 14: I believe Scott A. covered that with the phrase ‘regardless of who it’s directed at’.
ARyan, not following you there. I put solar on my house here in Roanoke where we get our juice primarily from coal powered plants, how is that not reducing output form a coal plant? Somehow, some way, most likely from natural gas we are slowly reducing our reliance on coal. There today are 50 less coal fired power plants in the US than in ’01. In 1988 coal accounted for 57% of our electrical power, today only 38.4%.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Existing_U.S._Coal_Plants
I agree the storage of intermittent power is a major issue but advances in storage are being made and I have full faith in our ability to eventually solve that problem. Here’s just one study that is being done:
http://www.seas.harvard.edu/news-events/press-releases/greener-storage-for-green-energy
And that is the first thing the police will ask if your car is indeed vandalized. I have lost count of the people who comment on my stickers, though mine are not nearly as offensive as the one pictured or the ones Henry referenced. I am partisan, but I am not crazy. Anyone who thinks such partisan insults are not asking for it, is only kidding themselves.
It is also why so many bloggers on a hometown newspaper website, hide behind anonymity to hurl their invective. Hell Henry, have you not mentioned your own fear of retaliation as a reason for anonymity?
I’m sure the owner of that RAV is quite confident it will NOT be vandalized because of the bumper sticker. And really, why would it? It only insults people who voted for Obama. Although they’re a majority of the voting populace, their vote for him over Mitt Romney signals that they’re both intelligent and have a lot common sense. They wouldn’t react unlawfully.
The radical-right firebrands are a totally different story; however the bumper sticker doesn’t insult them. So there are no worries.
I imagine that most Obama voters titter when they see the sticker and shake their heads and feel a bit sorry for the driver.
And that’s why you don’t see any dents or busted out windows or graffiti all over that car.
Happy Valentine’s Day to all my fellow bloggers!!!
Comment by Ron May — February 14, 2013 @ 10:11 am
I guess I’ll put his over on this thread. Who knew that if you clicked on the picture and posted a comment you had a thread all your own??
What I’m talking about is baseline load. Nuclear and Coal Plants run at full power all the time. That means that on spring nights (lowest power demand in the year) the only thing supplying electricity are coal and nuclear plants. During the day, power companies flip on nat. gas generators that are better suited to adjust to power draws. So yes with your solar panels you are only reducing nat. gas comsuption.
Scott Whitaker
That link is a fascinating read. It sounds like any workable product is years in the future. Also, the amount of the research grant is quite small.
scott whitaker: Until we stop concentrating on grid-scale storage and distribution, solar and wind have a long way to go. However (and this is the part that coal, NG and even the power companies people themselves don’t want you to know), if we could get people on board with localized generation and household/neighborhood storage, we could take the residential grid completely green in less than a decade.
When it comes (and it IS coming), an entire industry will fold, but a new one will spring up in its place if we plan and play it right. It’s all a matter of timing in order to minimize the economic impact.
What would you say if I could present to you a device that generates 20-25kw of power for 48-72 hours on nothing more than about fifteen seconds of hand-cranking? What if I told you that we can even automate the cranking process? This will be in a package about the same size as a standard gas generator and will produce no more than 40dB of noise (you can have a normal conversation while standing next to it). It’s going to change everything. Think about a world with no more overhead power lines. Think about an uninterruptible power supply for your entire home (when two units are coupled with a transfer switch). How much would it be worth to you to never have an electric bill again?
It’s coming, my friends. We need time and opportunity. Well, we need money, too, but this isn’t exactly something we can throw on Kickstarter for several reasons. Regardless, be ready. We’ll need people like you – people who see the need and importance of weaning ourselves from fossil fuel power generation.
Perhaps this is not a traditional Valentine’s Day song, (are there any?) but here’s a song about courtin’ and what happens when you go courtin’. Hope you have gotten to do some courtin’ today on Valentine’s Day.
Give it time to load.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XIT_xMHKJI&list=PLOZoxiB0G6oWIB7BKe0tH7kiI1DgZ2PnN
J M White
Don’t give away any secrets, but what is the power source for this device?
I have yet to see an anti-Romney sticker on a car in Virginia. Over the past twelve months while traveling in this state, I’ve been as far west as Lee County, as far north as Lorton, as far east as Suffolk, and as far south as Danville. I’ve seen plenty of anti-Obama ones. No anti-Romney ones.
I’m openly asking to be proven wrong on this one. (Anti-Republican and anti-conservative and anti-libertarian do NOT count. Only anti-Romney. This is as much a reading comprehension test as it is a photographic proof test.)
“I have yet to see an anti-Romney sticker on a car in Virginia. Over the past twelve months while traveling in this state, I’ve been as far west as Lee County, as far north as Lorton, as far east as Suffolk, and as far south as Danville. I’ve seen plenty of anti-Obama ones. No anti-Romney ones.
I’m openly asking to be proven wrong on this one. (Anti-Republican and anti-conservative and anti-libertarian do NOT count. Only anti-Romney. This is as much a reading comprehension test as it is a photographic proof test.)”
–Pirengle
I’ve never seen one either, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I assume that someone has considered it, but abandoned the idea because they wouldn’t sell, under the reasoning that Romney-opposed car owners would never display them because it might exite the yahoos and get their cars trashed.
“J M White
Don’t give away any secrets, but what is the power source for this device?”
==Old blue
My 14-year-old son regularly comes home with stories about how some of his classmates absolutely insist that perpetual motion machines are indeed possible. They routinely mock him for suggesting that such a “machine” would violate the laws of thermodynamics. “Thermodynamics, schmermodynamics!” they taunt. “You need to forget about corrupt scientists who will issue any opinion in exchange for research money and open your mind!”
I should also mention that, to a person, they all intensely dislike Obama, and before the election they were insisting Romney would win.
In that respect, they’re like a lot of RWers on this blog!
Dan Casey: I assume that someone has considered it, but abandoned the idea because they wouldn’t sell, under the reasoning that Romney-opposed car owners would never display them because it might excite the yahoos and get their cars trashed.
I honestly believe that people were for Romney in a “well, he’s a louse, but he’s OUR louse” sort of way, kinda like how people weren’t thrilled with Kerry in 2004 but voted along party lines.
This is not a perpetual motion device and I would never make such a claim. It’s powered by torsion via spring, therefore it’s limited to the life of the spring (which will be a warranty-covered part) and the transmission.
The technology driving this device is so simple, most people look at the concept and wonder why it wasn’t thought of a century ago. That’s when I laugh and tell them that it probably was (I’m fairly certain that Telsa explored this avenue).
By the way, my proof of concept works. It IS a viable generator, I assure you; it’s just large and ugly, with an inefficient belt and pulley transmission system. The workaround is an epicyclic transmission, which greatly reduces size and increases efficiency, but that’s already revealing a lot more than I probably should.
Te beat goes on (or should I say courage under fire):
http://tinyurl.com/bcjxuc7
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Four Years Later, Slain Abortion Doctor’s Aide Steps Into the Void
By JOHN ELIGON
Published: February 13, 2013
WICHITA, Kan. — For nearly four years the site has been abandoned, a low-slung, windowless, beige building just off a highway on the east side of town. But the overpowering smell of fresh paint inside hints of activity soon to come.
This spring, Julie Burkhart, an abortion-rights advocate who lives in Wichita, is planning to reopen the abortion clinic that occupied this space for decades, setting the stage for a re-emergence of the fiery passions that once made this conservative manufacturing town the center of the abortion battle in the United States.
Ms. Burkhart was a colleague and close friend of Dr. George R. Tiller, the clinic’s proprietor, who was fatally shot in church by an anti-abortion advocate in 2009 and whom abortion opponents viewed as enemy No. 1 in part because he performed late-term abortions. His clinic, the state’s only abortion provider outside the Kansas City area, has been shut ever since.
SNIP
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J.M. White,
I didn’t mean to imply you were talking about a perpetual motion machine, but I understand how it could have come across that way. My apologies.
I was using the question to rif off of more than anything else.
Aren’t wind-up spring generators already in use on a smaller scale? Like in radios?
I didn’t take it that way, Dan. It was just a blanket disclaimer.
Indeed, clock spring generators are in use. You can get one the size of a light bulb that will charge your cell phone. The wind-up types are almost universally DC while my design, using an efficient brushless generator head, is fully AC. The torsional device isn’t as secretive as the transmission, winding, and delivery-side systems.
Gdad, re: 2:09
Henry didn’t miss that part of the post. He missed all the liberal-progressive whining when the same thing happened to bush.
Maybe you should could him multiple examples.
Dan, re: 3:22 (unlawfully)
Care to give us some comparisons to the (intelligent and common sense) liberal-progressive 99%’ers vs conservative TP’ers during their protests? You can just stick with the big one’s such as “assault on police officers”, damage to public/private property.
J.M. White, I have heard of something similar along those lines. Thanks for the info. Also have heard the discussion of localizing the “grid scale storage and distribution”. You’re an engineer?
Well done Senate GOP for attempting to force REAL answers out of the White House regarding Benghazi. Obama admitted today that he did not phone the Lybian government on 9/11/12, although he was briefed on exactly what was going on in a meeting around 5PM EST that day.
The answer I want to know the most is, who perpetuated the LIE from the White House that the attack was sparked by an anti-Muslim film for 21 days after 9/11/12? Panetta has already testified he knew it was an organized terrorist attack the evening of 9/11. He was in the 5PM meeting. Obama is on record of saying he(White House) gave Susan Rice her talking points for the Sunday news shows week(s) later.
Potentially, this could get very, very interesting…affecting both Barack and Hillary.
A kid beats a 53 year old man with a baseball bat, robs him and only gets 6 months. It looks like no one will be charged for the robbery.
I guess we really do need guns to protect ourselves because that kid will be out in 6 months.
Good point, Henry.
The sad part is that that kid will have a gun as well, but it’s not very likely he’ll buy his gun from a legal gun dealer.
Correction- Obama sent Susan Rice to the Sunday shows. He has not admitted to giving her the “anti-Muslim” talking points…and he won’t. If those talking points are factually linked to Obama/Axelrod, that will be the day impeachment proceedings will begin.
Hum?
Thoughts?
http://tinyurl.com/alvqu5w
What George W. Bush Did Right
The 43rd president of the United States did a great thing for humankind — but most Americans have no idea.
BY CHRISTIAN CARYL | FEBRUARY 14, 2013
SNIP
I should say, right up front, that I do not belong to the former president’s political camp. I strongly disapproved of many of his policies. At the same time, I think it’s a tragedy that the foreign policy shortcomings of the Bush administration have conspired to obscure his most positive legacy — not least because it saved so many lives, but because there’s so much that Americans and the rest of the world can learn from it. Both his detractors and supporters tend to view his time in office through the lens of the “war on terror” and the policies that grew out of it. By contrast, only a few Americans have ever heard of PEPFAR, the U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, which President Bush announced in his State of the Union address in 2003.
Fast forward a decade later, and in his own State of the Union address on Tuesday night, President Barack Obama only briefly mentioned the goal of “realizing the promise of an AIDS-free generation” — an allusion to the long-term aim of PEPFAR. Yet President Obama’s most recent budget proposals actually propose to cut spending on the program. That’s a pity. This might have been a good moment to celebrate ten years of an unprecedented American success in fighting one of the world’s most pernicious and destructive diseases.
In his 2003 speech, President Bush called upon Congress to sponsor an ambitious program to supply antiretroviral drugs and other treatments to HIV sufferers in Africa. Since then, the U.S. government has spent some $44 billion on the project (a figure that includes $7 billion contributed to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria, a multilateral organization). By way of comparison, America’s most recent aircraft carrier — which will join the 10 we currently have in service — is set to cost $26.8 billion. One medical expert calls PEPFAR the “largest financial commitment of any country to global health and to treatment of any specific disease worldwide.”
It’s impossible to tell exactly how many lives the program has saved, though Secretary of State John Kerry recently claimed that 5 million people are alive today because of it. That’s probably as good an estimate as any.
SNIP
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Has Fox Noise finally seen the light?
“Potentially, this could get very, very interesting…affecting both Barack and Hillary.”
Or, potentially, it could be an ongoing big fat nothing besides the GOP tastefully grandstanding on the back of a dead ambassador.
Hillary’s approval ratings are in the 60s. Obama was elected by a decisive margin SINCE Benghazi. The Senate GOP is wallowing in the blood of Americans killed overseas as an excuse to filibuster the president’s nominees.
In the event we have another Derpublican president in the next few terms, they shouldn’t look for much cooperation.
You’re an engineer?
Comment by scott whitaker — February 14, 2013 @ 6:10 pm
Not in any official function, though I fancy the title. I’m a tinkerer/fabricator. I got into the engineering side of it when I needed to learn more about transmissions. Pulleys and belts are too inefficient to achieve the ratios I needed, so I started researching. I guess it ignited a passion.
I’ve played around with hydro, wind, solar and various storage methods. My favorites are no-dam hydro systems (DC-gen, AC-dist) built from junkyard parts.
You’re an engineer?
Comment by scott whitaker — February 14, 2013 @ 6:10 pm
Not in any official function, though I fancy the title. I’m a tinkerer/fabricator. I got into the engineering side of it when I needed to learn more about transmissions. Pulleys and belts are too inefficient to achieve the ratios I needed, so I started researching. I guess it ignited a passion.
I’ve played around with hydro, wind, solar and various storage methods. My favorites are no-dam hydro systems (DC-gen, AC-dist) built from junkyard parts.
Comment by J.M. White — February 14, 2013 @ 7:29 pm
Very cool!
Kristen, given the fact that Obama was tied in the polls and trending behind Romney on 9/11/12….and one his perceived strengths was the war on terrorism. Can you see the logic in Obama perpetuating a narrative such as the anti-Muslim film as a reason for the attack, instead of terrorists? Someone kept that narrative going for 3 weeks despite the fact the knew that night it was a terrorist attack. If tied to the White House, things will get ugly for Obama and Hillary.
The Benghazi thing, Fast & Furious, Solandra — it’s interesting how certain RWers’ blood simply boils over this stuff, even after potential political advantage has been eclipsed.
Because that was the goal of the Limbaughs and other elements of the RW noise machine: these were all so-called “scandals” that, if they couldn’t be ginned up enough to bring down the Obama administration outright during the first term, they were going to assure that Obama would never get a second term.
Yawn. Most of the thinking public knows that it’s made-up and way, way, way overblown stuff. Most of the RW noise machine shut up about them after the election — because the point of the whole deal was to make Obama lose, and when that didn’t work, they decided to move on and see if they find more “productive” scandals. They got bored with Benghazi, F&F and Solandra, too. (Although the former is still simmering slightly in Congress).
This is what I meant though, when earlier I wrote that the smart people on the right know they’re lying and making a mountain out of a molehill, and why, and others of the same political stripe have simply been manipulated into believing the garbage is true. Many of the latter still believe there was a Whitewater scandal back in the Clinton years, too.
The only ones you hear braying about this silly stuff now are the manipulated class. They were the folks who were sure Romney was going to win the election, too, because the polls had all been cooked against him. Thank goodness for that certainty. It won me a lot of election bets!
They don’t seems to realize their noise-machine leaders have pretty much given up and moved on. And that’s part sad, part hilarious.
“There you go again” Another Chuck, way to really class up the discussion with your “solid” point: “If those talking points are factually linked to Obama/Axelrod, that will be the day impeachment proceedings will begin.” You KNOW that has not been even remotely implied much less no evidence for it exists, but sure, go on and throw it out there, TWICE as if it is a fact. Typical right wing dishonesty. You do not deserve any respect, so stop asking for it.
“If those talking points are factually linked to Obama/Axelrod, that will be the day impeachment proceedings will begin.”
AC, seriously, does this never get tiring for you and your ilk? Obama was elected once. Obama was elected twice. He was no thrown out for being ineligible to be president. He’s not going to be impeached for anything. He’s going to serve out his second term and leave office on the usual schedule. Why don’t you guys do something, I dunno, productive. Like try to turn the GOP into something more popular than jock itch. Because if it doesn’t change it’s tune, the republicans will spend he next decade on the outside looking in.
Obama was never behind in the polls and never ever “trended” behind Romney, AC. Jeez do you ever enjoy an active fantasy life.
This is a “fact”. Romney was a dog of a candidate that took 10 months to peel away from a field that was led by Rick Perry and god knows who else at various times. He couldn’t even pull away from THAT freak show for months. He was never, ever going to beat Obama. It’s a joke to suggest otherwise.
AnotherChuck, embrace reality. Your party is at rock bottom. Personally, I enjoy seeing the right all embittered and delusional, so don’t change a thing for me, babe.
Dan, Did Candy Crowley help you with than answer:)? I really do think the Benghazi situation is very different from the others you mentioned. A US ambassador and 3 fellow citizens were killed by Al Queda on “our soil,” and an obvious cover up followed for 21 days. Panetta testified they knew it was a terrorist attack on 9/11. Who controlled the “film” narrative is key. I think it is a big deal, do you?
Agreed Dave Hicks, Eugene Robinson had a good column on that too.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-07-26/opinions/35487798_1_african-countries-pepfar-antiretroviral-treatment
“…if Africa is gaining ground against AIDS, history will note that it was Bush, more than any other individual, who turned the tide. The man who called himself the Decider will be held accountable for a host of calamitous decisions. But for opening his heart to Africa, he deserves nothing but gratitude and praise.”
Amen!
Ok, Sandi…why was the “film” scenario played out by Obama for 3 weeks? I have a theory, but I really don’t know. Can you explain, or do you even have a theory why that narrative played out for as long as it did? Panetta testified he knew it was a terrorist attack the evening of 9/11.
“Ihave a theory, but I really don’t know.”
Take a seat next to “Let’s talk about the ambassadors rape!” Frank.
J m white, thanks for the info. As Dan mentions, you cannot violate the laws of thermodynamics, so you cannot store more energy than you put in. In general energy out is considerably less because of losses in the system.
Hey AC,
I sure hope sandi can put her research capabilities to finding the answer to your question. However, there IS no answer in the public record that I can find. But I’m sure sandi is a better researcher than me.
Like you, I look forward to sandi’s answer.
Let’s not hold our breath, and let’s not let her forget about it, either.
Hillary:
“Well I found a new way to describe “stupid”:
Yesterday, several New Jersey Republicans in the Assembly refused to support a bill in committee that would ban people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns. Yes, really…”
Hillary, Hillary, Hillary…. they were 100% correct to oppose a bill that strips rights from people on a list that they are not allowed to see, there is no due process to get on or off of, and no established criteria for. Anyone could be put on that list willy-nilly.
No way would I want my legislators supporting that. Of course, this is the state that bans “hollow nose bullets”, so I shouldn’t take any amount of common sense in defending her citizens’ rights for granted.
AnotherChuck, embrace reality. Your party is at rock bottom. Personally, I enjoy seeing the right all embittered and delusional, so don’t change a thing for me, babe.
Comment by Kristen — February 14, 2013 @ 8:00 pm
Kristen, the GOP is not my party. I am a conservative /libertarian that has a strong dislike for the mainstream GOP due to their love of big government. The only real difference between a “Republican” and a Democrat is where they want to spend the money. See George Bush for that example. But Obama has taken big government to a new level..in the liberal way Mayor Bloomberg is doing in NY. And wanting to “fundamentally change” the greatest and most benelovent nation in the history of civilization is why I have a huge problem with him.
I suppose Obama believed what the CIA told him was a plausible story until they could get a handle on the bad guys. But mine is just a theory too. I just won’t make up sinister, destructive theories, no matter how hard you try. There were many protests in many countries over that film at the same time, it was not pulled out of thin air. Your hate of all things Obama is.
After a similar incident,I have not put any type of bumper sticker or school back window decal on any of my vehicles since circa 1978. It is just a magnet for knuckleheads to express their ignorance via petty vilolence or shameless destruction.Hopefully window decal parking permits will not soon become prey to the same crowd.
AC , there is nothing about your posts that speaks to a dislike for the GOP.
AC , there is nothing about your posts that speaks to a dislike for the GOP.
Comment by Kristen — February 14, 2013 @ 9:07 pm
I don’t expect you to review my posts, but my ire for the GOP is a consistant theme in my statements regarding fiscal issues primarily and social issues too. My disdain for them is only surpassed by big government liberal democrats like Obama…no offense towards you intended.
Wednesday’s open thread was “Behind The Wheel”, Thursday it’s “Through The Windshield”. Will Friday’s be “On The Stretcher”?
“Henry didn’t miss that part of the post.”
Of course he did mike o. That’s why he hasn’t bothered to reply to multiple posts pointing out his lack of reading ability.
#43 Thank goodness it appears that Oscar Pistorius had a gun, eh, Henry?
Re: John Wilburn @ 8:49 pm
Re: your name being on lists that you can’t get off assuming that you know you are on them, check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hicks
Tell me about the disruption in one’s life.
Oscar is in South Africa. Too bad his girlfriend didn’t have a gun. She might still be alive.
#72 Too bad ANYBODY AT ALL had a gun. She might still be alive.
There, fixed it for you, Henry.
This seems to be the year for sports icons to fall fast and hard.
@Another Chuck #45: As I said on another thread, if you wonder why you aren’t taken as seriously as you’d like, Chuck, look at the nonsense you throw out. GOP senators are pitching a hissy fit wanting answers to the question of who changed the talking points – a question that was answered MONTHS AGO. Read The Wall Street Journal if you don’t believe me:
The officials said the first draft of the talking points had a reference to al Qaeda but it was removed by the Central Intelligence Agency, to protect sources and protect investigations, before the talking points were shared with the White House. No evidence has so far emerged that the White House interfered to tone down the public intelligence assessment, despite the attention the charge has received.
Do you realize how foolish your bleating about impeachment proceedings looks in light of this, AC?
If you want to be taken seriously, quit aping discredited talking points and start learning the facts before you spout off. That advice should be taken by Sens. McCain and Graham, as well, by the way.
Another reason to be concerned about keeping lots of guns and ammunition around:
“Munsey said firefighters were hindered by ammunition exploding within the house, forcing them to stay a good distance away until it was too late. Burned strips are all that is left of Munsey’s extensive gun collection.”
BTW, I went to this man’s murdered daughter’s funeral because I was friends with the man living with his ex-wife, Kitty, at the time. I feel for all he’s been through, especially the loss of his child.
gdad, it may sound scary, but unchambered ammunition will not shoot at people if it is burned. The gas can for the lawnmower is a bigger hazard in a house fire.
“gdad, it may sound scary, but unchambered ammunition will not shoot at people if it is burned. The gas can for the lawnmower is a bigger hazard in a house fire.”
Sounds like a great episode of Mythbusters!
“gdad, it may sound scary, but unchambered ammunition will not shoot at people if it is burned. The gas can for the lawnmower is a bigger hazard in a house fire.”
Sounds like a great episode of Mythbusters!
Comment by Dan Casey — February 15, 2013 @ 1:24 pm
Love those guys! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAK2dDQ-S4Q&noredirect=1
The casing fires off at more velocity than the bullet, because it weighs less (yay, physics!). While injury is likely in close proximity, a lethal injury would be a one-in-a-million statistical outlier.
John W, I didn’t make it clear that my point was that this guy’s house burned to the ground at least in part because the firefighters couldn’t get close. I’m sure the damage would have been severe even without the ammunition, but something might have been saved.
Hillary, Hillary, Hillary….Comment by John Wilburn — February 14, 2013 @ 8:49 pm
John, were you wagging your finger at me or just shaking your head?
Hillary, I was shaking my head, so to speak. Surely, if you reason through that proposed legislation, you can see how abusive it will be. That bill is designed to strip rights with no due process. Of course it isn’t sold to the public that way, but that is exactly what it is. That bill is absolutely worth fighting.
Agreed Dave Hicks, Eugene Robinson had a good column on that too.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-07-26/opinions/35487798_1_african-countries-pepfar-antiretroviral-treatment
“…if Africa is gaining ground against AIDS, history will note that it was Bush, more than any other individual, who turned the tide. The man who called himself the Decider will be held accountable for a host of calamitous decisions. But for opening his heart to Africa, he deserves nothing but gratitude and praise.”
Amen!
Comment by Sandi Saunders — February 14, 2013 @ 8:07 pm
Wow, this is really good stuff! Just got around to reading your posts, Dave and Sandi, and I am glad I did. Thanks, Dave, for sharing this.