Not getting through on the Thursday OPEN thread
Shot by Dan
“Life is one big road with lots of signs. So when you riding through the ruts, don’t complicate your mind. Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy. Don’t bury your thoughts, put your vision to reality. Wake Up and Live!”
Bob Marley
March 21, 2013 - 10:00 AM
I generally support gay marriage but I am having some trouble repudiating some of the arguments raised in this article. I thought you guys might be able to help.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/20/opinion/george-gay-marriage/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
A. Ryan…I personally don’t care who does what with whom, or how people definie their relationships. I’ve knwon people in open marriages or plural relationships. I don’t understand it one bit though, it sure doesn’t sound fun to me to have multiple wives upset with a single husband! I’d prefer government to be out of the business of approving marriages altogether, and simply taxing everyone, regardless of marital status, the same way.
But, if government is going to continue sanctioning marriages, I’ve always felt the firm definition should be 2 consenting adults, regardless of gender, only. If people want to engage in additional marriages…they can do that through whatever religious institution they choose…but they won’t get the same legal status. It does open a can of worms though.
I think the whole argument that gay marriage will lead to plural marriage, inter-species marriage etc is a load of hooey.
Just as the SC realized that denying marital status to couples of differing races, and even most churches have realized that banning marriage of differing religions was wrong, it is also wrong to deny marriage to same sex couples. Marriage is NOT just a religious sacrament, it is a legal government contract and denying that contract with its intended rights and responsibilities to same sex couples is discrimination based on sexual orientation and nothing more. Marriage is not based on fertility or ability to procreate, that is the social construct not the legal.
Wow, news about ll the great stuff we’ve done for the average Iraqi just keeps piling up:
“Dramatic increases in infant mortality, cancer and leukaemia in the Iraqi city of Fallujah, which was bombarded by US Marines in 2004, exceed those reported by survivors of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, according to a new study.
…
Dr Busby says that while he cannot identify the type of armaments used by the Marines, the extent of genetic damage suffered by inhabitants suggests the use of uranium in some form. He said: “My guess is that they used a new weapon against buildings to break through walls and kill those inside.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/toxic-legacy-of-us-assault-on-fallujah-worse-than-hiroshima-2034065.html
O.J. is always the voice of reason. Nicely said.
“definition should be 2 consenting adults, ”
Why just two?
Sandi @ 1:29,
“I think the whole argument that gay marriage will lead to plural marriage, inter-species marriage etc is a load of hooey.”
Actually, this aspect scares the bejesus out of me; what if a LBGT citizen has a temporary lapse in judgment and then mates with a republican? Or even worse, and tea partier? I’m sure you can appreciate the gravity of the potential consequences; it would be worse than dogs marrying cats! We’ve made far too much progress as a society to cede precious ground in this fight; I say that for the good of our culture we outlaw normal people marrying ‘wingers! The only way we as a society ever eradicate the cruel affliction upon this nation is to not allow normal people to help propagate the inferior ‘winger DNA so they’ll all eventually cease reproduction due to their basic ineptitude. If we truly love this country and want her to ever prosper again, than we need to legislate the ‘wingers demise from the gene pool.
As the ‘wingers on this blog aptly demonstrate for us, when we leave them to their own devices eventually they’ll go play in the traffic on their own and the problem takes care of itself.
That is how I feel, Sandi. I believe we should change all marriages to civil unions in the eyes of the government. When you go sign a “marriage” license, it should say civil union at the top whether you are gay or straight. Let churches hold “marriages” and define them how they want, but for government benefits, you sign a civil union.
The guy in the article did bring up an interesting point that we give benefits for marriages because that is the best way to raise a child and that helps society. I’m in no position to dispute that because I have a loving mother and father but I generally believe that having two parents love you, regardless of sex, you tend to be a better kid. I don’t believe there is enough evidence to prove this yet but I believe it is coming.
Best Vice-President ever. Giffords will be surprised to hear she is dead.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-gabby-giffords-was-shot-and-mortally-wounded_708770.html
“Why just two?”
Who knew? Henry is a little kinky.
I suppose that no one ever thought that “marrying” the government and a religious sacrament would be a problem… but the truth is that it is the same “in name only”. You may or may not involve the church in your government marriage contract, but for that union to be legal it has to involve the government. You do not have to consult or abide by anything the church says about your marriage, but you sure do have to abide by what the government says up to and including when you dissolve that marriage.
Because it is a government function, no matter how religious and sacred you hold it in your heart, the government cannot discriminate and it does. Gay marriage in the eyes of the government is merely one honest interpretation of the SC away from being the law of this land. Call it anything you like, it will be a marriage as we all know that to mean.
That so many still have a religious taboo on same sex marriage is simply a testament to the power of hate IMO. If you look at the Bible, it condemns adultery and fornication outside of marriage many, many times more than it even mentions same sex activity. When it mentions same sex activity, it is in the context of being wanton and promiscuous, like adultery. The Bible never mentions same sex activity in the way that same sex couples commit and love each other like a marriage so even if I wanted to, I would be misapplying the Bible message to condemn that. Also, even with all that emphasis, up to and including being stoned for adultery, virtually every religion accepts it and allows divorce and remarriage without a blemish. I am saddened that the taboo of same sex love and marriage is based in hate and judgement but it clearly is. Read it in context and explain how it is not? You can’t.
Poor ole Joe Biden! Wonder if there are enough for a book? Maybe it is a DC virus? “I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/misunderestimate-tops-list-notable-bushisms-article-1.389921#ixzz2OD1G89pq
So all it takes is 15 teahadist chuckleheads to turn the US into Greece. This is way past getting old.
Need a good laugh?
Somehow “Rick Perry” and “prescient” don’t belong on the same page, much less in the same sentence.
He has met the enemy and the enemy is himself…
“Pat Robertson Warns of ‘Scamsters in Religious Garb Quoting the Bible’
Just two days after Pat Robertson encouraged bankrupt families to give him “just $20 a month,” the televangelist is now alerting viewers to beware of “scamsters in religious garb quoting the Bible.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/21/pat-robertson-warns-of-scamsters-in-religious-garb-quoting-the-bible/
I really liked this line, Hillary. “We encourage you to join the 700 Club… It’s just $20 a month. And if all of us do it together, it gets to be millions and millions and millions of dollars!”
Yeah, and he’s the one raking in the millions and millions and millions, not the poor people who are sending it to him.
The fact that he takes from those who have the least to give is reprehensible…
Agreed Robertson is reprehensible.
“The fact that he takes from those who have the least to give is reprehensible….”
-Hillary
Hill, you are SO CYNICAL! Look at it this way: Pat is actually selling them a slot in heaven at a superdooper cut-rate price. He is doing them a favor. $20/month is dirt CHEAP for eternal joy and plenty (for $10 a month more, St. Pete will let you pets in, too).
At least you aren’t required to pay Robertson which isn’t the case with Obama’s Welfare Candyland where we all have to pay for it.
Something for the Pro Choice Crowd.
http://instantanalysis.net/latest-headlines-from-the-web/2013/03/21/abortionist-joked-this-baby-is-big-enough-to-walk-around-with-me-or-walk-me-to-the-bus-stop
Agreed, Hillary.
I find it funny the wingnuts continue to triple-down on Romney’s 47% gaffe. It worked so well for them last time.
A Ryan@1 nails the issue. Marriage is a positive thing; it is a family thing;
it is a religious thing. Government has no place or business changing it.
One man, one woman. . .for the children. Recent studies indicate marriage is best for children. Let it be. Why fix what is not broken?
Dan:
“$20/month is dirt CHEAP for eternal joy and plenty (for $10 a month more, St. Pete will let you pets in, too).”
Do they waive the pet deposit or throw in a free prayer cloth if you call and make your love offering within the next 30 minutes?
Dan, it’s about to become Friday, and this song just came on my Spotify playlist, and you popped in my head.
I wonder why….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McF7ImZH7WY
“Ah but fortunately I have the key to escape reality
And you may see me tonight with an illegal smile….”
Scott, that’s a great tune. This Friday’s drive-time tune already is teed up; but I’ll use this one next Friday.
Along with losing his mind, it appears Robertson has become all-out ballsy in his old age, too. Really, though, you have to admire the boldness and bluntness of the sales pitch.
“Have you been completely irresponsible with your money, folks? Have I got an investment opportunity for you! What would you say if I told you that you could get a return of 30, 60 or even 100 fold on your small recurrent investment? For the low, low price of just $20 per month, God will bless your life with happiness and joy. This is an amazing opportunity and a mere pittance to pay for having the Big Guy hand you a platter full of mortal bliss smothered in awesome sauce. That’s not all! Your $20, along with a life of good deeds and faith, will get you season tickets into heaven for all of eternity! I know. I know. It does seem to be too good to be true, but this deal is legit, trust me.
Don’t forget to tell any friends or family you may have who also have a habit of throwing away money. If we all do it together, there will be millions and millions and millions of dollars for me to spend on the things that God wants me to have.
There’s an even bigger bonus! For just ten more dollars a month, I’ll personally get on the phone, call Jesus and tell him what a super-cool, mega-awesome person you are! Yeah. I can do that.
The lines are open, so call now. That’s 1-8-0-0-R-I-P-U-O-F-F. Don’t miss out on this incredible chance of a lifetime. If the lines are busy, just hang in there and keep trying. There is no limit to the seating capacity of heaven, folks. They can’t sell out.
Before we take a commercial break, I’d like to bring you a word of warning: There are a lot of scamsters in religious garb out there promising salvation through monetary donations. Do not give anything to these blasphemous charlatans! They’re nothing but fakes and God will punish them any day now. Who are you going to believe, them or the guy who has the Jesus Hotline?
Nothing is too much to give for the fate of your immortal soul. All you have to do is just make sure you do your part. {patented creepy Robertson grin} The number’s at the bottom of the screen. We’ll be right back.”
I love that song, Scott!
Seriously Henry, grow up! Obama neither invented poor people nor welfare, and the economic crash that Bush/Cheney did not even see coming, much less prevent, is what increased the rolls, not Obama. I know that fairly kills you, but it remains the truth, nevertheless. History will prove your hate is misplaced and petty.
sandi get over the Bush thing will ya, it tired and stale dear. obama has created more debit, more people on welfare than any other president in the entire country’s history, you can’t deny that FACT, this is his problem dear, he has done nothing but kill this economy as his agenda,,wake up, grow up
exactly Leon, they don’t want normal
kind of like the muslims selling virgins in heaven for killing Christians now huh danny
Leon @ 11:12,
Leon, judging from the nonsense you’ve posted on this blog, I would feel far more comfortable with a set of gay or lesbian parents raising a child than you doing it. You don’t project yourself as being bound real tight…
I was just thinking. The Northeast has had no fewer than five natural disasters the past nine months; power outages and destruction caused by the derecho, Hurricane Sandi, and at least three major snowstorms. Each caused massive damage, power outages and misery.
Of course the NE is the source of godless leftwingism in this country. Might there be a connection?
At least you aren’t required to pay Robertson which isn’t the case with Obama’s Welfare Candyland where we all have to pay for it.
That’s what I said about Walmart in that thread. For that, I was called a ‘hater’ by “Donna”
under the obama admin, who has an extra $20 to send to pat.
Oh, yeah, the girl who can’t even spell her name right is going to lecture us on “normal”? Makes perfect sense. Another stellar parental role model for the future of this nation.
“At least you aren’t required to pay Robertson which isn’t the case with Obama’s Welfare Candyland where we all have to pay for it.”
–Henry
It’s statements like this from which the pammala crowd brilliantly deduce that Obama invented welfare. Soon they will be blasting him for that. Next, they will claim he invented taxes.
“I was just thinking. The Northeast has had no fewer than five natural disasters the past nine months; power outages and destruction caused by the derecho, Hurricane Sandi, and at least three major snowstorms. Each caused massive damage, power outages and misery.
Of course the NE is the source of godless leftwingism in this country. Might there be a connection?”
–Suzie
Or, it could be all the Catholics. They’re more highly concentrated in the Northeast than anywhere else in the nation.
Suzie | March 22, 2013 at 8:50 am
I was just thinking.
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I stopped reading there because that claim is unfounded. Source, please.
No vow of poverty with Pat Robertson, and not bad for a “scamster”… or “entrepreneur, Writer, Televangelist, Businessperson, Pastor” – whatever…
“What is Pat Robertson’s net worth? Pat Robertson’s net worth is $30 million dollars.”
“He runs a number of large companies, including the Christian Coalition, a Christian Right organization that exists to raise monetary and public support for conservative political candidates. He has made multiple predictions about the future of the United States based upon, “What God has told him”, but so far, none of them have been accurate, though many have been quite controversial.”
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/pat-robertson-net-worth/
#35 I’m sure that godless liberalism is also the cause of the recent severe drought in the Midwest and parts of Texas. God teaching those heathens a lesson.
Leon | March 21, 2013 at 11:12 pm
“A Ryan@1 nails the issue. Marriage is a positive thing; it is a family thing; it is a religious thing. Government has no place or business changing it.
One man, one woman. . .for the children. Recent studies indicate marriage is best for children. Let it be. Why fix what is not broken?”
Leon – nice way to parse your words with, “Recent studies indicate marriage is best for children”.
However you conveniently left out the rest of that research:
“Children raised by gay or lesbian couples benefit when their parents are allowed to marry, America’s top pediatrics group said Thursday in support of same-sex marriage.”
[...]
In reaching its conclusion, the American Academy of Pediatrics authors reviewed more than 30 years of scientific research evaluating children raised by gay and lesbian parents.
“There’s no relationship between parents’ gender or sexual orientation and their children’s well-being,” Perrin said. “Our conclusion is based in the fact that there’s no evidence at all that same-sex marriage harms children in any way.”
http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/21/no-evidence-same-sex-marriage-harms-children-docs-say/
BTW, marriage was a construct used to assure hereditary “property rights”, the protection of bloodlines for inheritance purposes – it was much later in our history [around the time of St Paul] that marriage was made into a religious phenomenon. Before that it was a legal issue to ensure rightful heirs by bloodline and family ties would receive their rightful bulk of any inheritance.
The world is multi cultural, marriage was not simply a man + women = children for thousands of years. But, because that is your “norm”, you see marriage in a very narrow definition – this does not mean it fits every culture nor each individual’s criteria for a long standing relationship.
Egads! pammala, your lack of information penetration is off the charts. I would seriously doubt you know what day it is, much less anything Obama has actually done to create the problem of “more people on welfare than any other president in the entire country’s history” nor can you intelligently prove he has “done nothing but kill this economy as his agenda”. You just hate so blindly you cannot even type and put together a cogent thought. That kind of hate is obviously corrosive.
History will prove who is correct, and I can promise, it will not be you. What you choose not to know is truly staggering.
Please God, may I see the day Christ comes and shows people what he really meant.
Dan, I’m surprised John Prine hasn’t landed a spot on your Friday playlist before now. My Americana mix on Pandora has a bunch of his stuff.
Here’s a duet he did with Dar Williams. This song always reminds me of Roanoke, even though the geography’s wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AdG0sdAVbI
sandi, “information penetration” . i’m offended by this type of language. save it for one of your chat room conversations.
Steve C | March 22, 2013 at 8:49 am
Leon @ 11:12,
Leon, judging from the nonsense you’ve posted on this blog, I would feel far more comfortable with a set of gay or lesbian parents raising a child than you doing it. You don’t project yourself as being bound real tight…
XXX This post of your would suggest you bound troll tight. No point is made;
only insult lypocrisy. Crawl back under your rock.
stephen a why dont you spell your name steven?
oh stephen c, so you spell you name wrong as well, should be steven c, according to your rules, hahahahaha, what a childish mind
Or, it could be all the Catholics. They’re more highly concentrated in the Northeast than anywhere else in the nation.
Fake Catholics like Andrew Cuomo, John Kerry, and Nancy Pelosi, maybe. The Northeast also has the highest concentration of abortions. One or two natural disasters in a year might be chance. But FIVE major hits in nine months?
Robertson is right about many things. But I don’t like the idea of a preacher living a live of opulence. They should live a life of poverty like Pope Francis.
And please don’t go on about the Vatican or the Pope Mobile or things that go with the office.
“Robertson is right about many things. But I don’t like the idea of a preacher living a live of opulence.”
–Suzie
Well what do you know? Suzie and I agree on something. Pat, btw, has an 11,000-square-foot weekend getaway in Bath County that he flies to on his private jet. Here’s the story of my discovery of that place — and the gun.
Pat Robertson also sells our used to sell vitamin shakes. Claims they give him the mental edge he needs to stay on top. Here’s some first class advice about shopping at Goodwill…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDpp9UWVjsQ
Turns out there might be demons in them castoffs. I didn’t know this. I was only prepared for stubborn stains.
AND the fact that John Prine hasn’t been on the Friday drive by tune is a terrible sin of omission. Fix it Dan.
“One or two natural disasters in a year might be chance. But FIVE major hits in nine months?”
Still chance. Or maybe human-caused global warming.
Of cooooourse we wouldn’t want the leaders of our particular religion to be up to their noses in opulence….oh noes….
But gay sex? Well, that is another subject for another day…ummm, how about today?
“The former head of the Catholic Church in Scotland is alleged to have been having an affair for years with one of the four men that eventually forced his resignation”.
“Keith O’Brien called homosexuality ‘moral degradation’ while head of church.”
[The]Cardinal alleged to admitting that he had a long-term boyfriend [who...] is understood to be among priests who complained about him…
“Earlier this month Cardinal O’Brien effectively admitted that allegations that he made homosexual approaches to young trainee priests were true.”
http://tinyurl.com/be4ls5k
And what about the south’s share of disasters…must be indicative of Satan out and about ‘down yonder’, no?
Deadly March Tornadoes Are First Billion-Dollar Disaster of 2012 – “the greatest toll in Indiana, killing 13, and Kentucky, where 23 people died.”
The 2012 Tropical Storm Debby tornado outbreak was a tropical cyclone-produced severe-weather event that affected the U.S. state of Florida for nearly 3 days on June 23–26, 2012.
March 13, 2012 – Flooding in South Louisiana, USA -”National Weather Service spokesman Joe Rua in Lake Charles says radar indicated up to 15 inches of rainfall by noon Monday in Acadiana
The 2012 Hurricane Isaac tornado outbreak was a tropical cyclone-produced severe-weather event that affected the U.S. states of Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Missouri, and Illinois from August 27 to September 4, 2012.
‘The 2010–2012 Southern United States drought is a severe to extreme ongoing drought plaguing the US South, including parts of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina. The worst effects have been in Texas, where near-record drought has parched the state since January 2011″
Oh, and what about the south and Hurricane Sandy?
“Hurricane Sandy battered hundreds of miles of the North Carolina coast on Monday, causing flooding and damage, but it wreaked the most havoc and cost two people their lives when a 180-foot three-masted ship sank in rough seas near the Outer Banks.”
and
““You’ve got flooding in south and southeast Virginia,” Gov. Robert F. McDonnell said. “You’ve got blizzard in western and southwest Virginia. And you’ve got high winds and heavy rain in northern Virginia. That’s what it’s going to look like now for the next 24 to 36 hours.”
Mr. McDonnell said he would seek an expedited emergency declaration from the federal government to speed aid to battered parts of the state.”
See how ignorant it looks when illogical conclusions are drawn from non-related information? The most religious region in the US – the South – got hit very hard by dramatic weather events…god’s hand? or climate change?
pammala #50 and #51,
I spell it Steve because that’s my name. Try making your point again but this time use the English language instead of the mumbled garbling nonsense you normally use.
I need you to do me a favor, pammala; start paying close attention to Leon’s posts; he’s as dopey and delusional as you are but at least when he makes up words he tries to spell them phonetically. This would be a good place for you to start. Now learn how to spell and stop bothering me.
“The former head of the Catholic Church in Scotland is alleged to have been having an affair for years with one of the four men that eventually forced his resignation”.
Oh wow. A human being did a bad thing. So what. You want to see 100 times more of that, look no further than your public school system.
See how ignorant it looks when illogical conclusions are drawn from non-related information? The most religious region in the US – the South – got hit very hard by dramatic weather events…god’s hand? or climate change?
The South hasn’t been hit five times in nine months by catastrophic natural disasters like the NE has, dear. Global warming? I’ll ponder that as we approach the coldest March on record. lol.
Hillary @ 12:42 & 1:02,
“The former head of the Catholic Church in Scotland is alleged to have been having an affair for years with one of the four men that eventually forced his resignation”
Which begs the question why Scotland remains unmolested from Hurricanes during the past couple of years? The Lord truly works in mysterious ways.
#61 “The South hasn’t been hit five times in nine months by catastrophic natural disasters…”
Umm, suzie, in 2005 the South was struck by four major hurricanes and other tumultuous storms. I guess they were especially blasphemous that year, eh?
Suzie | March 22, 2013 at 1:31 pm “The South hasn’t been hit five times in nine months by catastrophic natural disasters like the NE ”
Did you also give up counting for Lent? I stopped adding weather events in the south [2012] just from the boredom of trying to demonstrate your ridiculous “premise” of five weather events in the NE.. There were almost a dozen tornado events, hailstorms, and other violent weather patterns [in addition to the drought conditions] wreaking havoc in the southern states…far from your “5″ in the NE.
Your point was silly. And, btw, the daily weather IS NOT climate change…look it up… climate change it is a pattern of weather.
There were almost a dozen tornado events, hailstorms, and other violent weather patterns [in addition to the drought conditions] wreaking havoc in the southern states…far from your “5″ in the NE.
Hon, even though one expects hurricanes to hit the south, nothing came close to the damage caused by Sandy. That’s what makes it all the more curious. Then there was the derecho. Again, didn’t affect the south, just mainly left-leaning states in the upper-mid Atlantic. Then there were the major snowstorms. I just think God is very displeased with America, particularly the godless areas.
Umm, suzie, in 2005 the South was struck by four major hurricanes and other tumultuous storms. I guess they were especially blasphemous that year, eh?
Good point. And which was hit the hardest? None other than sinful liberal wasteland known as NOLA.
Florida was absolutely pummeled and Rita hit Texas hard. The coast of Mississippi and part of Alabama were destroyed. Sorry, suzie, you’ve been had again.
Of course, New Orleans, which Suzie called the “sinful liberal wasteland” is the most Catholic city in all of the South. Funny how God never picks on Tulsa, Salt Lake City, Seattle or Vegas.
Of course, New Orleans, which Suzie called the “sinful liberal wasteland” is the most Catholic city in all of the South. Funny how God never picks on Tulsa, Salt Lake City, Seattle or Vegas.
Dan seems to have trouble understanding the difference between participating Catholics and those who mark the “Cathollic” box on a survey but in no way practice the faith.
I did notice that while Katrina leveled the godless den of iniquity known as New Orleans, more Christian Mississippi fared much better. Call it conservative leadership, call it mismanagement by liberal leaders in LA, call it a can-do attitude of the MS people, whatever the reason, it was a natural consequence.
I’ve targeted perhaps ten folks for prayer on the blog the past five weeks. I am wonder if any of them have noticed changes in their lives. If not, no worries. I am persistent.
Your point was silly. And, btw, the daily weather IS NOT climate change…look it up… climate change it is a pattern of weather.
Right. I am very glad the liberals changed it from ‘global warming’ to “climate change” in order to cover for extreme cold periods like we’ve had in March.
In ‘climate change’ temperature changes either way are evidence of too much carbon in the atmosphere which can only be remedied with gobs of American taxpayer dollars.
We will know our expensive efforts have worked when the weather each day is exactly the same as the day before. You know, like it was when only the Indians inhabited America.
Dan, I had forgotten about all the Catholics down there, not only in New Orleans but also in other parts of Louisiana that were creamed by Katrina and then Rita.
“I did notice that while Katrina leveled the godless den of iniquity known as New Orleans,”
Last time I looked, New Orleans was still there and Bourbon Street and the French Quarter are still roaring along. I guess God’s not too good at that “leveling” thing.
“I’ve targeted perhaps ten folks for prayer on the blog the past five weeks.”
And here I thought our house had been invaded by early-season gnats.
Generally, Catholic’s are well educated, thoughtful and reasonable people; suz is obviously an outlier. Judging from her comments in this thread, it’s pretty safe to infer gurl’s from the wing of the church that still has a beef with Galileo.
Suzie,
If you are as good as you claim to be at math please tell us what statistical model you used to reach your conclusion that there was an aggregation of excess cases in a given geographical area. The compound Poisson approach / testing algorithm? The spatial event cluster detection using an approximate normal distribution? Other?
http://tinyurl.com/cwf4d2p
Ditto assigning causation.
Remember that just finding that the observation of a cluster of event “b” and the observation of a cluster of event “c” in the same area does not preclude that both events are caused by something else cause or a different cluster of event “a”.
Also, remember that there is likely an observing clusters of sales of snowcones and a cluster of downing or shark attacks in Florida during a the nine month period of spring, summer and fall. Would you conclude that snowcones cause downing or shark attacks?
Uh oh, now what have southerners done to deserve the “wrath” of god, again? Especially with Palm Sunday on the horizon you’d think “he” would be save the bad weather for those Jewish or Muslim holy days…
“There seems to be the risk of a severe weather outbreak from part of Texas to Florida that could reach as far north as the I-20 corridor.
Blinding downpours and flooding could disrupt travel and foil outdoor activities during the Palm Sunday weekend. However, there is the potential for more violent weather conditions that could threaten lives and property from Houston to New Orleans and Tallahassee”. http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/severe-weather-risk-palm-sunda/8514409
If God really was vindictive and had any sense of geography he would have wiped out suz’s trailer park last year.
Suzie, doubtless your prayers involve “voodoo dolls”, but please, save your prayers for your own soul and enlightenment, you have exhibited a need that proves God leaves some in need.
Suzie@70
I know I was on your prayer list and yes, I my life has changed for the better. Been regular as clockwork for the last two weeks. If this isn’t evidence of the efficacy of intercessional prayer, I don’t know what is. I can provide evidence if you give me an address.
Mike Scott, you just might be on to something; why just last night I was able make the acquaintance of a charming young woman, and after a few drinks she consented to come home with me to check out my “art collection”. After a couple more drinks at my pad she and I got to know each other in a biblical manner. I know, crazy, right? It gets better. So I wake up and this bee charmer has not only cleaned my house and folded all my laundry, but she also fixed me some flap-jacks! I mean, what are the chances?
This was truly something more than just mere serendipity; things just don’t happen this way. I just can’t help but to think that I’ve got a secret fan out there that’s putting in a good word for me with the big guy. Honestly, can you not see the hand of divine intervention here? I guess I’ll see tonight, because I’m going to a poker game tonight where I plan to get blind drunk. If I wake up in the morning with my pockets overflowing with Ducats and I’m not in the pokey, it will truly be evidence of a higher power moved to action by powerful prayer. Cross your fingers for me!
“Why just last night I was able make the acquaintance of a charming young woman, and after a few drinks she consented to come home with me to check out my “art collection”. After a couple more drinks at my pad she and I got to know each other in a biblical manner. I know, crazy, right? It gets better. So I wake up and this bee charmer has not only cleaned my house and folded all my laundry, but she also fixed me some flap-jacks! I mean, what are the chances?”
I swear to God this actually happened to me when I was 21. Her name was Won, and she was the manager of the 7-Eleven next door to the shoe store where I worked one of my senior years at University of Maryland. My roommates totally loved her. She’d wake up early & clean our pigsty of a house, and cook breakfast! I hope she’s well and happy; she was a good person.
Dan at 7:07,
See? Prayers DO come true!
what are the chances
We’ll see the manifestations for Steve C. when he stops voicing his adolescent fantasies and starts acting like a mature man.
Generally, Catholic’s are well educated, thoughtful and reasonable people; suz is obviously an outlier
What is the internet law again that says when someone questions another’s intelligence, that post is guaranteed to contain a grammatical error?
If you are as good as you claim to be at math please tell us what statistical model you used to reach your conclusion that there was an aggregation of excess cases in a given geographical area. The compound Poisson approach / testing algorithm? The spatial event cluster detection using an approximate normal distribution? Other?
Like any good scientist, all I did in post #35 was pose a question. Then I sit back and watch the non-scientists jump to conclusions go crazy.
Suzie, doubtless your prayers involve “voodoo dolls”
Not in the least, dear. My prayers for you are sincere.
“I’ve targeted perhaps ten folks for prayer on the blog the past five weeks. I am wonder if any of them have noticed changes in their lives. If not, no worries. I am persistent.”
Life IS change.
Hey, whatever you’re asking is cool with me, suz, ’cause apparently your praying mojo has got it going on! I won huge last night! I swear, I’ve never won this much money gambling EVER! It’s like it’s raining Lincoln’s, Jackson’s and Grant’s all over my coffee table. I tried counting ‘em but I’m still pretty buzzed and my eyes are really bloodshot so that’s gonna’ have to wait ’till I belt down a couple of the hairs-of-the-dog-that-bit-me to steady the nerves a bit.
Anywho, like I said, this is conclusive evidence that somebody’s been praying real hard for me; the last thing I remember last night I was so smashed I couldn’t even read my cards, yet I mysteriously kept throwing down winning hands all night long, apparently even after I passed out. Who knew the Lord loved gambling so much? Further, I postulate that the Father and Son dragged my drunken carcass out to my car and the Holy Ghost obviously had the keys because my car didn’t auger into a bridge abutment at 100mph and kill me in a ball of flames. I’m pretty sure they were looking out for me on the ride home, too, because I discovered a bunch of Texas Tavern wrappers littering the back seat when I got up this morning.
Look, I know some of you may still be skeptical about this higher power thing suz is always rambling on about; I certainly was until a couple of days ago, but recent events suggest further consideration. In fact, right after suz said she was praying for a select few of us ne’er do wells, my life really changed dramatically. To recap just this past weekend; I meet a hotty who’s a millionaire AND a nymphomaniac who also loves to cook and clean, then winning huge at poker even after I blacked out and didn’t even put a scratch on my chariot getting home. I know there’s a lot of unanswered questions, but all I know for certain is that none of this was happening in my life until suz, working through silent communion with the Lord, has changed my life.
One last thing, suz; I got five tickets for the big six Powerball drawing they’re gonna’ do on Friday. This is kinda’ a big deal for me because if the Lord could possibly pick six of the ping pong balls with the numbers on one of my tickets, I’ll be able to turn my hobby of pursuing wine, women and song into my full time profession; this has been a long time goal of mine, suz, and I feel that if you could, you know, put a bug in the big guy’s ear for me, so that I’ll…no, you, the Lord and I, will be that much closer to achieving my dream of spending the rest of my life as if it was just a huge frat party. suz, please, please, please pray hard for me and hook a brother up!
In all seriousness, frank hasn’t posted in a couple days, so somebody’s answering some prays around here…
Hey, I got an idea; maybe if we all pray really hard together we can suz to leave ‘till Lent’s over! It’s worth a try.
“Like any good scientist, all I did in post #35 was pose a question. Then I sit back and watch the non-scientists jump to conclusions go crazy.”
IOW, Dave H, suzie hadn’t the slightest idea what you were talking about when you started asking her stuff that involved science and math.
Look, I know some of you may be skeptical about this
No. Really?
Believe it or not, this is a 50-year-old dreaming this stuff up. I guess he thinks passing out sounds cool?
“What is the internet law again that says when someone questions another’s intelligence, that post is guaranteed to contain a grammatical error?”
I’m not sure, but the Suzie Postulate.guarantees that the term “irony” will be misused 98 percent of the time it’s employed.
#92 “Believe it or not, this is a 50-year-old dreaming this stuff up.”
So you’re calling Dan and VRWC liars?
@89 I can’t stop laughing!!!! Suzie please pray for me I don’t want to walk around with a permanent grin on my face! People will think I’m stoopid…
Suzie…
I can’t begin to thank you enough for the prayer work you are doing. Guess whose tourney bracket is tearing up the competition? Yep you got it, mine. I was setting there filling out brackets on Tuesday when a small quite voice said to me, Florida, Gulf Coast.
I thought it was subliminal message about spring break possibilities, but then I saw Florida Gulf Coast vs. Georgetown. Let me tell you girl, my momma didn’t raise no dummies so I picked FGC and look where I am now! Them and Wichita State have me sitting so pretty.
Thank you Suzie, thank you Jesus, thank you Lord. No particular order.
PS… I only rode FGC out of the first round, not looking for a sweet sixteener on the pick. Can you put some mojo on SDSU? I know you can.
Re: Mike Scott | March 24, 2013 at 11:36 am
The nation’s oldest Jesuit university fell to a secular public school, in spite of . . . ?
Now if you read into bad weather the hand of God, what might that event be saying?
Oh, wait a minute. I got it. It had to be a fix — rather like the last election.
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I’m rooting for Duke. Class program. Wins despite being consistently outmanned because they insist their players be able to read.
I personally want thank the Holy Spirit for providing us the funniest thread we’ve had in months. This is truly a gift from God.
Oh Suzie, I never doubted the “sincerity” of your prayers, just the content.
Oh Suzie, I never doubted the “sincerity” of your prayers, just the content.
Now, now. I only want the best for you. It’s only in the blog that it may appear otherwise at times.
So, the nation’s oldest Jesuit university doesn’t require their students to be able to read?
Who knew.
Thanks for the insight, Suzie.
#98 Still waiting for those massive MSM attacks on coach K. When did you say those would happen, suzie?
And of course Duke is rarely “outmanned” (alert, alert!!!). They regularly get some of the top recruits in the nation.
So, the nation’s oldest Jesuit university doesn’t require their students to be able to read?
Who knew.
Thanks for the insight, Suzie.
That’s a non-sequitur worthy of Gdad, Dave Hicks.
Re: Steve C at 12:27 pm
I don’t know.
Were some of the opinions not so sad, it might be funny, IMHO.
But then I don’t care much for slap-stick or self-deprecating humor or jokes at others’ expense. Ridicule, teasing, and biting sarcasm etc can be far too aggressive and quite often downright mean, IMHO.
And of course Duke is rarely “outmanned” (alert, alert!!!). They regularly get some of the top recruits in the nation.
UNC gets the better players. Duke rarely gets the athletic 6-8, 6-9 black difference-maker forward. Yet Duke is slightly ahead in the series under Coach K.
Dave H,
As usual, you are right. I will try harder to behave but sometimes it’s challenging to resist playing whack-a-mole when people post such ridicules targets for me. Thank you for the gentle remonstration.
Non sequitur?
Hum, “a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said” — M-W.com
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Mike Scott talks about picking Florida Gulf Coast vs. Georgetown.
Coastal Cinderella wins by 10:
#15 FGCU 24 54 78
#2 GTWN 22 46 68
I comment on the nation’s oldest Jesuit university falling to a secular public school.
You comment on picking Duke because they insist their players be able to read.
Hum?
Just for the record, My picks could use an upset tonight. I picked Creighton to beat Duke tonight. This could turn my bracketology around but fast. Fingers crossed.
Re: Steve C at 4:38 pm
You are right. I get sucked into playing whack-a-mole from time to time, also.
“Duke rarely gets the athletic 6-8, 6-9 black difference-maker forward.”
I did put up a codeword alert before this post. suzie didn’t fail me.
Just about any coach in the country would kill to have Duke’s recruits most years. Your comparison of the UNC vs Duke record means nothing at all.
Now, suzie, when does that MSM assault on Coach K start? We’re still waiting.
I comment on the nation’s oldest Jesuit university falling to a secular public school.
You comment on picking Duke because they insist their players be able to read.
Yeah….Exactly. What does one have to do with the other? Ergo non-sequitur.
Just about any coach in the country would kill to have Duke’s recruits most years. Your comparison of the UNC vs Duke record means nothing at all.
Sure it does. UNC, UK, UF all get players who won’t or can’t go to Duke, namely the long athletic black difference-maker forwards. Name the last one Duke has had. Luol Deng ten years ago? UNC has one or more most years.
And yet Duke manages to win with cagey scrappy Caucasian players.
Now, suzie, when does that MSM assault on Coach K start? We’re still waiting.
They already tried, and we pointed it out.
Are Coach K and Duke not as picture perfect as we thought they were?
From reading well-respected Yahoo! Sports journalist Dan Wetzel’s recent eye-opening investigative article on former Duke forward Lance Thomas, the answer is definitely leaning towards “no, they’re not.”
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1335637-are-coach-k-and-duke-not-as-squeaky-clean-as-we-all-think-they-are
Wait. Gdad knows this was already pointed out. He was just being his usual trolling self.
“And yet Duke manages to win with cagey scrappy Caucasian players.”
Suzie reveals what she REALLY likes about the Duke team.
I wonder if they hire minority strippers for team parties? There’s a precedent for that at Duke, after all . . .
(Suzie applauds again!)
True colors, they always come through.
“They already tried, and we pointed it out.”
Who the heck is “we.” YOU tried to claim that a few minor stories (that disappeared quickly) about an automatically triggered investigation was the MAJOR MSM assault you predicted. What a joke.
As I said, we’re still waiting.
Well, troll suzie, thanks for making my point for me. You’re attempting to claim that a piece that shows a grand total of 7,500 reads is your predicted big MSM assault on good old Coach K. Silly.
Yep, Dan, that why I posted my codeword alert after she used the term “outmanned.”
And then we have “scrappy” and “athletic.” Sad, suzie, sad.
BTW, watching right now, and and according to suzie’s definitions, Duke has two “scrappy” players on the floor and three “athletic” ones. I’m not sure how “long” the athletic ones are.
Well, troll suzie, thanks for making my point for me. You’re attempting to claim that a piece that shows a grand total of 7,500 reads is your predicted big MSM assault on good old Coach K. Silly.
Predictable. Gdad is pretending Bleacher Report and Yahoo aren’t MSM players. This is what happens with trolls. They ask for proof, you give it to them, and they just keep going.
Very similar to Gdad’s claim that the MSM didn’t report $7 million of damage by the OWS thugs to the WI Capitol. Then I linked the story. He still drones on about it.
This is why trolls shouldn’t be engaged.
Suzie reveals what she REALLY likes about the Duke team.
I’d respond to your comment, Dan, but you’ve deleted so many recent posts. You seem to be very thin-skinned lately.
I do think when you make an accusation, you should be man enough to take the response. Must be hanging out with Rad.
suz, the dry cleaners just called; your white robe is ready.
BTW, watching right now, and and according to suzie’s definitions, Duke has two “scrappy” players on the floor and three “athletic” ones. I’m not sure how “long” the athletic ones are.
Who’s the 6’10 “Marvin Harrison” type on Duke’s team this year, Gdad?
Gosh, suzie, I haven’t mentioned the Wisconsin capitol in ages. Why did you bring it back up? You asked me to quit mentioning it, so I did because I’m just that kind of guy.
7,500 reads on the story you linked to. And the story has disappeared. Sorry, suzie, that’s not the all-out MSM assault you predicted. Show us proof of the massive attack on Coach K.
I’ll wait.
From what I’m reading it appears leftwingers are saying race doesn’t make a difference in the level of basketball talent. I guess that’s why college and NBA teams are 75% white and 12% black just like the population at large.
“Who’s the 6’10 “Marvin Harrison” type on Duke’s team this year, Gdad?”
Speaking of non-sequiturs. No need to even consider a reply to that nonsense.
I see that it was some of the “athletic” fellows who led Duke to victory last night. Scrappy of them.
#123 suzie, you’ve said many times you’d leave if Dan kept deleting your posts. Time to honor a promise. For once. God would appreciate it.
7,500 reads on the story you linked to. And the story has disappeared. Sorry, suzie, that’s not the all-out MSM assault you predicted. Show us proof of the massive attack on Coach K.
The story disappeared because none of the parties was interested in playing ball with the media and about a settled three-year-old allegation, as per the agreement.
What a shame. The MSM tried, though.
None of the parties was interested in talking about the settled allegation, rather
And….another Sweet 16 for Coach K’s trophy case. Overachieving Duke keeps getting it done with their cagey scrappy players.
I wish Dan would delete all of your twisted, baiting posts.
I wish Dan would delete all of your posts.
Of course you do. Liberals don’t like people bucking the party line.
#132 As I noted, it was the “athletic” players who won it last night. The “scrappy” ones spent a lot of time in foul trouble. I also notice that Duke was playing another pretty “scrappy” team in Creighton.
And BTW, suzie, maybe you can explain why god would let Duke beat a Jesuit Catholic university like that — a university that has a “Faith” link on its home page..
“The story disappeared because none of the parties was interested in playing ball with the media…”
Thank you for confirming that there was no all-out media assault on Coach K, just as I said. I appreciate you substantiating my point and acknowledging that I’m right.
Re: gdad at 10:29 am
Re: another Jesuit Catholic university that she did pick.
See: Suzie | March 24, 2013 at 12:23 pm
“I’m rooting for Duke. Class program … because they insist their players be able to read.”
Who knew that both Georgetown’s and Creighton’s players could not read?
After all according to her if they could she would have picked them.
Thank you for confirming that there was no all-out media assault on Coach K, just as I said. I appreciate you substantiating my point and acknowledging that I’m right.
Oh, I see. Now it’s “all-out” media assault. Dontcha love the changing bar? You asked for the MSM assault on Coach K. I presented it. They would have continued with it, but nobody would talk to them. Just irks you libs to the bone, doesn’t it?
“Very similar to Gdad’s claim that the MSM didn’t report $7 million of damage by the OWS thugs to the WI Capitol. Then I linked the story. He still drones on about it.”
Now that suzie brought it up again — as she is wont to do every now and then — I WILL point out that the reason for my posts to her on this topic was that she was still spreading a 3-week-old lie that the Repubs had at first promulgated and then quickly withdrew as false — that union protesters had used painters tape that had damaged capitol marble to the tune of $7 million. suzie either still believed this patently ridiculous assertion or was purposely trolling something she knew was wrong. She had to be set straight.
#137 Agreed, Dave H.
Oh my, with all the comments from the ‘one-who-gave-up-Dan’s-blog-for-Lent’ – did I miss Easter?
Is Lent over? There is just nothing like a “good” Catholic who keeps their “promise” to god…oh, wait…
Hillary @ 2:07,
She just can’t quit Dan.
Must be some kind of compulsive disorder, no?
Re: Hillary at 4:32 pm
Maybe, maybe not.
How about pseudologia fantastica / mythomania — as that seems to cover more of her /his various compulsions.
More to the point is the observations that such individual may believe they are telling the truth, being unaware that they are relating fantasies and delusions.
lmao @ bleacherreport being “mainstream media”
You know those sports websites… always pushing the liberal agenda.
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I think I’ll stick with compulsive – those with little impulse control – or “compulsive” need to be untruthful. as in a compulsive liar. Some may be referred to a “habitual”, but the old, ” a rose by any other name is still a rose”…seems to be appropriate.
Allright Suzie
“From what I’m reading it appears leftwingers are saying race doesn’t make a difference in the level of basketball talent. I guess that’s why college and NBA teams are 75% white and 12% black just like the population at large.”
Have at it! This is your chance to describe the specific biological characteristics that make one race of basketball player inherently or innately better than another race. As an entertaining two fer, you can than pen a profound essay on the biological determinism that makes nearly all NASCAR drivers white and, perhaps use the same argument to explain the demographics of the NHL.
Go ahead, make William Shockley proud. You’ve already done much to emulate him in your social interactions with blog peers. Now you should try it with specific information you possess concerning race and human potential.
I’ll stick with pathological.
Re: Hillary | March 25, 2013 at 6:06 pm
”I think I’ll stick with compulsive”
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Pseudologia fantastica / mythomania are just a different compulsive disorder — and one that I (in my totally layman’s opinion) suggest might be a better fit.
As always, YMMV.
#138 suzie, you’re the one who predicted a massive media assault on both Coach K and on Boeheim. I merely asked you to show us where your prediction came true. You can’t and now YOU’RE the one (as usual) trying to lower your own bar. End of story.
Wow. Sure are a lot of personal attacks going on here. Sorry, guys. I tried to answer your questions, but my posts keep getting deleted. Not sure why.
Have at it! This is your chance to describe the specific biological characteristics that make one race of basketball player inherently or innately better than another race.
Mike Scott,
Since you apparently think I am a racist for even pointing out the predominance of blacks in the NBA, I would say the burden is on you to explain why this is so, if it’s not genetics.
While you’re at it, perhaps you can also explain why the top 30 100-meter sprint times are owned by blacks.
“…are owned by blacks.”
“Blacks”????? Where’s MMM when you need him?
I guess Mike Scott doesn’t have an explanation for why blacks own the top thirty 100-meter sprint times. He just wanted to throw rocks.
It always boils down to that, doesn’t it?
“It always boils down to that, doesn’t it?”
Nah, it boils down to you using some pretty offensive terms and codewords.
“I guess Mike Scott doesn’t have an explanation for why blacks own the top thirty 100-meter sprint times. He just wanted to throw rocks.”
I do have an explanation, assuming your assertion is true, but even if it is not: one gets the best sprint times by running the fastest. Duh.
“Sorry, guys. I tried to answer your questions, but my posts keep getting deleted. Not sure why.”
Way before suz lied about lent, she lied about leaving the blog if her posts got deleted. ‘Course, she been lying since she’s her particular brand of pestilence has infected the board. She even lied about hot dogs; who lies about hot dogs? What’s the point?
Face it; this battle ax will be with us longer than cockroaches, good luggage or a sleeper sofa. The CDC will work out an effective flu vaccine formula before suz finds a blog where her unique talents for lying are appreciated.
Is Steve C still upset about the Soros thing?
I do have an explanation, assuming your assertion is true, but even if it is not: one gets the best sprint times by running the fastest. Duh.
Very deep Mike Scott. Bit you implied it’s not genetics, so let’s hear your theory as to why blacks are faster.
Nah, it boils down to you using some pretty offensive terms and codewords.
What word that I used on thsi thread offended you?
Steve C, you forgot to mention her singular talent for lying about what she said in her own posts earlier in a thread — posts that anybody can go back and read and see that she’s “misquoting” herself.
Back when I was growing up, my parents taught that it was practically a mortal sin to lie. Now people like suzie pat themselves on their backs for lying.