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The New York Republican tells it like it is.
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This says it all http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/us/a-federal-budget-crisis-months-in-the-planning.html?_r=0
Now tell me the Tea Baggers are grass roots. LOL
Love King’s face. Grumpy!
I read a Daily Kos article last night, that a friend had posted on Facebook, regarding the Chamber of Commerce. They said that if members of Congress that don’t belong to the Tea Party will end the shutdown, they will give them financial support in elections if a TP candidate runs against them,
From RJB’s link- “Last week, with the health care exchanges open for business and a number of prominent Republicans complaining that the “Defund Obamacare” strategy was politically damaging and pointless, Mr. Needham of Heritage Action said he felt good about what the groups had accomplished.”
“It really was a groundswell,” he said, “that changed Washington from the outside in.”
Hopefully with the shutdown, those on the inside who are responsible for it, will find themselved on the outside looking in come election time.
I posted this on friday’s open, but this is a better place
If you want to consider something important, consider that because of the government shutdown caused solely by the House, Obama had to forego his trip to the Pacific Rim Countries and to the SE Asis economic meetings. Instead, China is in charge at these meetings. These are crucial economic and security meetings that will affect the US for decades, yet, the Tea baggers have caused the US to miss out on these strategic meetings.
Want to hear more go to this site http://wachh.org/2013-2014-audio-transcripts/october-4-2014-gov-jon-huntsman-jr/ to hear Gov. Huntsman in conference I attended this past Friday. The GOPO chose the wrong man from Utah to run for president. Huntsman is smart and down to earth. He knows where the future is.
- See more at: http://blogs.roanoke.com/dancasey/2013/10/found-on-the-friday-open-thread/#comments
From the NYT link that Richard provided:
“The (ACA’s) supporters are also getting huge assistance from the insurance industry, which is expected to spend $1 billion on advertising to help sell its plans on the exchanges.”
Wow, when even King calls you out and says his own party is wrong…it is way, way wrong!
I’m sure there are some conservatives who consider King a RINO. I believe that stands for Rational Intelligence Now Occuring. I’m sure the RW’s would disagree.
The mere fact that King is being referred to as a moderate demonstrates how much the baggers have changed the perception of the Republican brand.
#10 Not only that Steve C, but Scalia is now much more right wing and activist than he was when added to the court.
“Labeling himself a “faint-hearted originalist,” Scalia confesses [in 1988] that “I cannot imagine myself, any more than any other federal judge, upholding a statute that imposes the punishment of flogging.” There are some injustices that the younger Scalia would intervene to prevent, even if those injustices existed at the framing.
This is the part of the “Lesser Evil” lecture that Scalia abandons in his interview with Ms. Senior. When asked “how fainthearted” he truly is, Scalia responds “I described myself as that a long time ago. I repudiate that.” And lest there be any doubt, that means he would permit flogging — “what I would say now is, yes, if a state enacted a law permitting flogging, it is immensely stupid, but it is not unconstitutional.”
Frightening that we have a wingnut like this on the USSC.
What’s even more frightening than having Scalia on the court are Thomas and Alito. They may be even worse.
#12 Agreed, although I’m not sure they’re actually worse than the current Scalia, Dan. Reading the article, it’s absolutely impossible for conservatives to even attempt to claim with a straight face that Scalia is either originalist or anything but an activist. And here’s the last paragraph:
“This lurch to the right should scare liberals even more than Scalia already does. And it is not yet clear if anything remains of Scalia’s prior claims to judicial restraint. Indeed, during oral arguments on the Voting Rights Act case, Scalia not only labeled the landmark law a “perpetuation of racial entitlement,” he claimed for himself a sweeping power to correct what he viewed as a failure of the democratic process. The Scalia who once spoke eloquently about the limited role of a judge in a democracy is dead, replaced by a more activist Scalia who is far more willing to question the will of the people than his younger self.”
You don’t hear much whining from the right about an “activist court” when they favor the activism.
#14 Exactly right, Kristen. The whole “activist” court thing was just another right-wing scam on the public.
BTW, we dropped by the soccer game last night to see our nephew playing. They didn’t win but they sure seemed to be having a good timer. Sorry we didn’t run into you.
I love this comment responding to this article. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/john-boehner-presses-demands-for-talks-with-obama-on-shutdown-debt-ceiling/2013/10/08/fbbe50da-3028-11e3-9ccc-2252bdb14df5_story.html?hpid=z1
Oct 2008: “You’ll never get elected and pass healthcare.”
Nov 2008: “We’ll never let you pass healthcare.”
Jan 2009: “We are going to shout you down every time you try to pass healthcare.”
July 2009: “We will fight to the death every attempt you make to pass healthcare.”
Dec 2009: “We will destroy you if you even consider passing healthcare.”
March 2010: “We can’t believe you just passed healthcare.”
April 2010: “We are going to overturn healthcare.”
Sept 2010: “We are going to repeal healthcare.”
Jan 2011: “We are going to destroy healthcare.”
Feb 2012: “We are going to elect a candidate who will immediately revoke healthcare.”
June 2012: “We will go to the Supreme Court, and they will overturn healthcare.”
Aug 2012: “The American people will never re-elect you, because they don’t want healthcare.”
Oct 2012: “We can’t wait to win the election and explode healthcare.”
Nov 2012: “We can’t believe you just got re-elected and that we can’t repeal healthcare.”
Feb 2013: “We’re still going to vote to obliterate healthcare.”
June 2013: “We can’t believe the Supreme Court just upheld healthcare.”
July 2013: “We’re going to vote like 35 more times to erase healthcare.”
Sept 2013: “We are going to leverage a government shutdown into defunding, destroying, obliterating, overturning, repealing, dismantling, erasing and ripping apart healthcare.”
Oct 2013: “WHY AREN’T YOU NEGOTIATING???”
Dan et al,
Whatever your view on the “shutdown” (some sources are saying that 83%of the federal government is still running despite the “shutdown”), what say you of the administration telling its people to “make it as hard as possible” (quote from a Park Service employee) on the citizens? Areas that are not normally actively policed are now using MORE taxpayer dollars than they would normally just to make a show, such as barricading the World War II memorial, Lincoln Memorial, etc? And why try to shut down privately owned areas (Mount Vernon) or State owned areas (cones placed on state roads to prevent traffic from pulling off to see Mount Rushmore)? These areas were not affected by any of the shutdowns in the past (and remember some of the shutdowns happened when the Democrat controlled House led by Tip O’Neill faced off against Reagan). Isn’t it rather juvenile?
Gdad, from what I hear there were some injuries and missing folks from our team. They do enjoy themselves though.
Dan, gdad, etc. any comments?
Mark, are you saying that you’d prefer that the House-driven shut-down only be enforced in places the public won’t notice? Which seems in line with the House’s position that they’d prefer to pick and choose individually the portions of the government they choose to fund. Which, if you’ll ask Leon, you’ll discover isn’t working.
No Kristen. I realize that the shutdown ultimately will not achieve its stated goal of defunding the ACA, but I understand the deep feelings behind the effort. However, I find it petty that the administration has ordered its people to “make it as hard as possible”, to the point of taking MORE resources just to make a show. I understand that funding would not be available to pay the people to keep the Smithsonian, etc open. But the monuments on the Mall are open to the public, and do not require active workers. They are inanimate blocks of stone that people can appreciate on their own by walking. And trying to close down privately owned areas such as Mount Vernon, or state roads in South Dakota so people can’t take pictures of Mount Rushmore just to make a bigger splash demeans the office of the Presidency. It seems that by making an exaggerated response the administration is afraid that people will realize that wow, we actually can survive a day or two without the federal Nanny State taking care of our every whim. And gosh, maybe there ARE some areas that can be cut. This obviously cannot be allowed to happen. There is not any area of the federal budget that can be cut if you listen to Obama/Reid/Pelosi.
#20 Golly, gee whiz, Mark, I didn’t even comment on the shutdown on this thread and I didn’t see your comment because I haven’t been on the thread since my post at 12:13 p.m. yesterday, but I’m supposed to telepathically know that you posted something that you’re demanding I comment on? Not only that, but the monumental thing you want me to comment on is some memorials being shut down?
Those things weren’t shut down in the past? Well, according to Frank they were. Why don’t you check with him? And if state roads or overlooks were really shut down, then I reckon the state can just stroll in and open them back up, can’t they? The feds can’t just close down state highways. (BTW, I notice that story seems to have disappeared — is it because there are no cones now?)
As far as the memorials and parks, are you claiming they aren’t normally policed? Really? I didn’t realize that the Jefferson Memorial and the Vietnam wall were just wide open for anybody to vandalize. I do know that the historical park my group is supposed to go next week is staffed by dozens if not hundreds of rangers, security folks, maintenance workers, interpretive guides, and others. They most certainly are not using more folks to keep it closed than they were to keep it open.
Well Mark, as someone who gets all of my information about what President Obama is doing and thinking from “an angry Park Service ranger in Washington”, I am truly shocked. What more credible source for the nefarious Obama than “an angry Park Service ranger in Washington” I ask you!
Do you people even hear yourselves?
I guess he’s willing to speak such truth, in contradiction of the GOTP’s mob rule party line, because ever since the New York City mayoralty race was decided last month he’s secure in being the only one who’s known as New York’s Peter King.
gdad: I apologize if I offended you by listing you in my post. And the point is not that the state of South Dakota could not go out and pick up the cones, but that they would have to. It is a state road, and a state road viewing area, not federal. Reports do say that the state asked the feds to take them down, and they took “some” of them down. There now has been snow, and the plows have needed to get through, and so now the state says they are down. The state government says they will monitor to see if the cones are put back up (by the feds). To your next point, yes the large areas of the mall are policed, but usually loosely, not actively trying to keep people out. There is not a ticket turnstile that has to be manned or lights that need to be turned on. Just an area where people normally can walk freely to appreciate the monuments.
Regarding Sandi’s comment about an “angry park ranger” knowing what is in Obama’s mind, that is obviously not the point.. The point is his administration (maybe not him directly, but the people under him who formulate and carry out administration policy, which Obama IS ultimately responsible for), got the word out that the Park service was to make it as hard on people as possible, to apparently make a show about the shutdown. Why else would they have been given these instructions? And if you doubt the veracity of the statement, just look around at all the Park service’s actions. Why should we not believe the Ranger’s statement, based on actions observed?
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Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:38:43 +0000
Metro Columnist Dan Casey knows a little bit about a lot of things but not a heck of a lot about most things. That doesn't keep him from writing about them, however. So keep him honest!
He welcomes your rants, raves and considered opinions, so long as the language is civil (i.e. no four-letter words). He'll read all your posts and may or may not respond.