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All she does is read the script. Nothing from Fox should surprise any of us.
I’m with you, Paul.
She’s eye candy. Nothing more, nothing less.
Because the middle east was just full of white people back then.
I disagree with Debbie above! Megan Kelly is a typical two-bit Hollywood ‘HO will do any comers for a quarter as long as he’s white! I’m waiting for her to tell us whether Bing Crosby was a white guy or not!
I thought the anti-gun folks would have these lyrics from “Its beginning to look a lot like Christmas” banned by now:
A pair of hopalong boots and a pistol that shoots
Is the wish of Barney and Ben;
Who knows what became of those 2 boys; probably hardened criminals by now after wanting a pistol at such a young age.
Crazy like a Fox!!!
Ignorance is bliss. Stupidity is painful.
Barney became a deputy and Ben went on to become a fine lawyer.
Michael Jones | December 13, 2013 at 10:50 pm
…Megan Kelly is a typical two-bit Hollywood ‘HO will do any comers for a quarter as long as he’s white!
With classy talk like that, it’s no wonder your goat is so enamored with you.
She’s still a complete twit, of course.
On the show this evening Kelly defended her remarks as “an offhand jest.”
Wouldn’t that be ‘Hopalong boots’, with a capital ‘H’, in reference to Hopalong Cassidy?
Come on really? I’m not a racist and Santa is white. There are many black characters in movie, tv and fiction history. Who really cares? PC at its best
#14: What about Jesus? Megyn says he’s white, too.
Forget the Jesus gaff Contra… she meant to say Mandela was white.
Jesus was not white. Historically verifiable.
Saw a picture on Facebook this morning of a chocolate Santa with the caption, Fear me Megyn Kelly, fear me.
Playing the race card done by somebody who cries about people playing the race card….Megyn is not the sharpest tool in the box….neither are the people that choose to watch this garbage….
Megyn Kelly says the reaction to her comments was race baiting and she’s learned that Jesus being white is up for debate.
Michael H, Santa is a fictional creation, his color can be whatever anyone wants it to be. Black men have dressed up as Santa for their children or other children in their neighborhoods. Just because he’s always been portrayed as white, doesn’t mean he has to be.
As for Megyn Kelly’s comments to kids, how many kids are up watching her show anyway?
Pick the statement that is factual
1) Santa is white
2) Megyn Kelly is a racist
Hmmmm…tough one eh?
Santa’s always been portrayed as white because the tradition of St. Nicholas has its roots in Europe. That being said, I don’t see any issue with re-imagining an already imaginary character to have a different ethnicity. It’s all just for fun anyway.
What color do you suppose Krampus is supposed to be?
Well of course Santa and jesus are white! It says so in the Constitution.
People pick some of the dumbest stuff to fill TV airtime arguing about. I feel like I lose IQ points just listening.
I would change #2 to Megyn Kelly is an idiot, Scott Anderson.
The Santa that we know in America was the creation of an ad agency for Coca-Cola. Just about every country in the world that celebrates Christmas has a different version of Santa Claus that has a different name and a different look.
Jesus, on the other hand, looked more like Yasser Arafat than George Washington.
So all you liberal PC correct people on here bashing her for saying Santa is white(as far back as I can remember, I have always seen him as white, until the past few years I have seen some black Santas around), what color is he?
Let me guess what you will say, he is a whitish, blackish, kind of grayish, pale, dark skined, olive colored guy? Is that PC enough of a discription for you?
Who cares if he is white. It doesn’t even really matter if you believe in him. That’s the greatest thing about Santa is the fact that kids love him and believe in him. I know that bothers a lot of you but let kids have their christmas and leave out the PC political BS!
“So all you liberal PC correct people on here bashing her for saying Santa is white(as far back as I can remember, I have always seen him as white, until the past few years I have seen some black Santas around), what color is he?
Who cares if he is white. It doesn’t even really matter if you believe in him. That’s the greatest thing about Santa is the fact that kids love him and believe in him. I know that bothers a lot of you but let kids have their christmas and leave out the PC political BS!”
Consider what is happening here:
1) Megyn Kelly makes a stupid statement on Fox News regarding the historical facts that Santa and Jesus are white.
2) We take note of that here, raise our eyebrows, and ask ourselves WTF?
3) Adams takes us to task for injecting liberal PC political BS into the Christmas season.
4) What we SHOULD HAVE DONE instead, he implies, was totally ignore Megyn Kelly.
5) The fact that we didn’t is worthy of his mini-screed.
As Art Linkletter observed, kids (of all ages) say the darnedest things!
Is she an “anchor”?
While many of you may disagree with Megyn Kelly you can’t really believe she is dumb. I don’t think they hand out law degrees to dummies nor do dummies usually pass the Bar Exam. While I disagreed often with Bill Clinton I have never accused of being dumb. I can say the same thing about President Obama. Like Adam said who really cares! Some things just need to be left alone.
Turns out that Megyn now believes she has been victimized by race baiters and fox news haters which seems odd since she cast the first stone with her assertions on Santa and Jesus.
Even better than Megyn’s salvo on those who are trying to steal Christmas is Gretchen Carlson’s rant on Fox lamenting the fact she might have to look at a festivus pole that was erected out of beer cans and placed next to a nativity scene in Florida. Yep, she’s trying to make sure there’s no festivus for the rest of us and she is darn mad about too.
Wondering though, are elves classified as white people or just elves?
She isn’t dumb and those remarks will have zero effect on her career at Fox. Roger Ailes absolutely will have no problem with her speaking directly to her audience.
Do you ever answer the questions ask of you? You answer with these long blowhard responses but never answer the question!
What color is Santa clause?
Hint Dan, it doesn’t require you to come up with a bullet point answer, I am just looking for a color. Come on Dan, you can do it.
Hint hint, I’m sure you will come up with some crafty off the wall one word remark for me further refusing to answer my question.
I didn’t know Megyn Kelly had a law degree, Michael.
Your right Mike. I asked a Black friend of mine what he thought about Santa being white. He said he could care less one way or the other. I’m watching University of Tennessee play basketball not a white kid on the court, and you know what who cares. Race is only an issue for those that make it an issue.
Albany Law school and she was a Tri Delt at Syracuse . I haver never met or heard of a dumb unattractive Tri Delt . Hard Sorority to get into.
That’s the point Michael. She made it an issue, telling all the kids to not pay attention to what was being said because Santa is white. Is and always was. That’s a boneheaded racist statement no matter who says it.
With all due respect Michael, she made it an issue when she made her statement on a national broadcast.
So being attractive is a requirement for getting into Tri Delt?
Not sure what their requirements are I just have never seen an ugly one . We would have shrimp and oyster parties with them. They would show up eat all the oysters and shrimp and leave early. Looking back on it can’t say I blame them
You can be a college graduate, an attorney, rich, beautiful and highly intelligent and still say something incredibly insulting, ridiculous and unworthy of a national television broadcast audience. She did.
I don’t believe #37 because I don’t believe Howdyshell has a Black friend.
In your opinion Sandi did not bug me at all
Sandi, Dan, and the rest of the PC liberals on this blog.
Answer me one question.
Yesterday, before you read this article and felt is necessary to prove to everyone you are not racist by saying Santa is white(even though that is ridiculous), when someone would mention the word Santa Clause to you, what did the guy in your mind look like? Describe him to me.
When you were in school, and you were told to draw Santa clause, what color was he? How did you draw him?
Please describe him to me.
Michael, Albany Law School is not exactly Harvard. It’s the University of Baltimore Law School for people who live in New York State. Many great lawyers have gotten their law degrees at the University of Baltimore. But so have many incredibly dumb ones. They accept anyone with a pulse.
As for Tri-Delts: At the University of Maryland College Park in the late 1970s, they were all beautiful (if your preference is blue-eyed blondes). But some of them were so dumb they couldn’t boil water with an instruction manual.
White beard, red suit, trimmed in white.
When we drew him his complexion was white — because that was the color of the paper.
What’s your point?
So he was white. You say it was the color of the paper but you could have easily colored him another color. You were not required to leave him white, you did it because that’s what color he is!
And guess what, IT’S OK THAT HE IS WHITE! It doesn’t mean your racist, it doesn’t mean anything! That’s just what color he it!
Every fictional character is a color.
Would you be outraged if they said aliens were green? How about ghosts are white?
“We would have shrimp and oyster parties with them.”
Tough life, dude.
For those on here who have Facebook accounts.
Adam, what is in my mind, or my childhood is not the issue, way to strawman. She is on a national broadcast and such a comment is beneath anyone. It simply and absolutely did not need to be said. Not every thought needs to turn into camera fodder. That is often what gets people in trouble. This is not even about “liberal PC”, it is about common sense. I am so sorry that some cannot see that. But I am also not surprised.
Under what “historical” fact is Jesus “a white man”? J.M. is being kind in calling her a “twit” IMO.
Santa Claus is based on an historical figure, St. Nicholas. St. Nicholas was the bishop of Myra, a city near the southern coast of Asia Minor (modern-day Turkey). First of all, modern categories of “black” and “white” are just that – modern – whereas race was understood differently in the ancient world. St. Nicholas was not “white” if by white you mean European. He most certainly was not a pale-skinned, red-cheeked, obese, married man, as Santa Claus is typically portrayed in contemporary American culture. Rather, St. Nicholas was an unmarried, ascetic (i.e., thin through fasting), Mediterranean/Middle Eastern bishop, so the notion of the contemporary Santa Claus’ being “black” is no further removed from the historical reality than his being fat, married, and “white.”
You and your PC liberal friends in here make me laugh.
Dan claims, even though he says he had crayons, he left Santa white because it was the color of the paper, lol.
You say that Santa is deep in your thoughts. Lol
It’s crazy y’all are bashing her for saying exactly what y’all think, he’s white! You both just won’t come out and say it!
FYI: aliens are green!
I bet the Incredible Hulk is screaming mad at me for saying that!!
Are you saying Santa is FICTIONAL? Megyn Kelly, at least earlier this week, disagreed.
As for the paper being white, that has nothing to do with race. It was because the pens/pencils were typically blue or black. That has nothing to do with race either btw.
Adam at 35 & 45:
When I was little, I drew Santa as a white guy, because I’m white, and because the Santa who actually came to my home on Xmas Eve was white….because he was really my Grandfather, who was white.
My friend who lived near me drew his Santa as a black man, because he was black, and because the Santa who visited his house on Xmas Eve was black…because he was really his Grandfather, who was black, and who loaned my Grandfather the Santa suit every year.
My friend and I figured if Santa could travel around the world in one night delivering toys in a sleigh pulled by reindeer, he could change his skin color. No big deal. We also thought Hasbro and Mattel were elf bosses or something.
Santa Claus is not a real person. That’s why what Megyn Kelly said was stupid to begin with. Why should she care enough to go on national TV and make an issue of it? She was responding to an article by Aisha Harris: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/holidays/2013/12/santa_claus_an_old_white_man_not_anymore_meet_santa_the_penguin_a_new_christmas.html
Have you read it? One of Ms. Harris’ points is that Santa is whatever color he wants/needs to be for all children because he’s magic. Ms. Kelly couldn’t let that stand as the best explanation to satisfy all children’s curiosity. She had to stupidly say, basically, “Nuh-uh! He’s white! So’s Jesus! So there!” Ms. Kelly is the one making a big deal out of it. She could have said nothing, or agreed that Santa is magic. Now she’s saying, “LOL! JK!” because she knows it was a dumbass thing to say. That’s what the bloggers are commenting on–her dumbassity, not Santa’s skin color. The bloggers aren’t on a national network announcing that Santa’s white–Ms. Kelly is.
I’ve seen a pre-Prohibition photo of an establishment on Salem Avenue between Jefferson and Wall streets that had a sign behind the bar: “Oysters Upstairs” with an arrow. It was a euphemism for prostitutes.
Non sequitur: I LOVE raw oysters, especially with a dollop of horseradish and a squeeze of lemon. When Cait (now 26) was a baby, and Donna was working retail Sunday afternoons, I knew an off-the-beaten-path bar in Severna Park, Maryland that charged 25 cents each for them. I’d take Cait there and watch football all afternoon. She was cool so long as I was feeding her crab balls (which weren’t nearly so good as my recipe, btw).
Now, though, I only eat raw oysters that I’ve opened myself.
Why didn’t you lightly shade Santa clause with your pencil?
You know why and I know why so you don’t have to say it.
Adam, I hate to burst your bubble, but Gordona has just explained to us that Santa was not the Irish icon you’ve been imagining.
You have our sympathies.
“Tri-Delts” sounds like a muscle group fitness enthusiasts would target to work on. In Megyn Kelly’s case, they would be located where her brain should be..
Adam, that kind of clinging is not healthy.
I hope Adam wasn’t too upset that Dwayne Johnson played a Tooth Fairy in a movie. Or maybe he was cool with it because Julie Andrews played the head Tooth Fairy and Johnson was a temp.
Adam@54. . .and Smurfs are blue. LOL
I’m going to try to change the subject. The article linked below I have read carefully & followed all the links within it. I’m not a big fan of Krugman, but in this instance I think he has hit the nail on the head.
Michael@32. . .but Obama doesn’t have a law degree. . .oh, wait. . .he had
to give it up!
The shrimp & oyster party was the one time a year when we tried to impress the really snotty sororities. We had a few brothers that really cared about such things. Most of us did not and wanted a have parties with the girls that just wanted to have fun. I did enjoy the road trip to the beach the get the food. You probably are right about the Tri-Delts at most schools. At UT they were mostly daughters of the First Families of Tennessee .
Okay, kids. Gather ’round. We’re going to learn some history and refocus on what Christmas is all about.
The figure of Santa Claus is based on Saint Nicholas (Nikolaos of Myra), who was a Greek 4th century bishop. While ancient Greeks are arguably considered Caucasian, they are more truly a mix of races. If race must be applied to him, it’s likely to be accurate to call Saint Nick a Slav, considering that it’s generally accepted that Greece was first settled by people from that region of Europe. Now, as his legend moved north, he became a chimera of Nikolaos of Myra, the Norse god, Odin, and the British Father Christmas, becoming the figure known as Sinterklaas. Sinterklaas is where we get most of our modern ideas of Santa Claus.
This brings us to the probable truth. Saint Nicholas was probably an olive-skinned Mediterranean. As his story moved north (and just like human physiology in reality) he became less and less melanistic until he became Sinterklaas, who was undoubtedly “white”. Herein lies the problem. The figure Nikolaos of Myra was a real, flesh and blood human. All the other iterations of his legend are not. Logically, this leaves us with two options: We can either depict Santa as a sun-kissed Mediterranean, as the true figure was, or we can depict him in whatever color we damned well please, as he’s been currently bastardized into a mythical being. Mythical beings are subjectively interpreted.
The spirit of Christmas and the lesson behind the memory of Nikolaos of Myra and his deeds have no color. They are concepts of generosity, abundance and good. Concepts know no race. It’s amazing how quickly we forget that, and to what end? To argue irrelevant points of pigmentation? In doing so, we corrupt what the true lessons and meaning of the legend teach us – simply to be good to one another and to give to others when we have more than we need.
If Santa truly is watching us today, he must weep at what greedy, selfish creatures we’ve become. I weep with him.
gordona beat me to it, I see. I’ll just call my comment an assist.
I’m not surprised you have seen that movie. Likely one if your favorites.
I’m not upset about the color associated with certain people.
All the PC liberals on this blog are.
You can bash me and Megan all you want, what ever makes you feel good. The simple fact is that you all see Santa clause as a white person, and that doesn’t make any of you bad people.
Your disgusting attitudes towards people that don’t agree with you is what makes you such deplorable bad people.
Megyn is the dumbest “news” person in the history of television, bar none. And since she is the grand champion airhead and windbag, it begs the question: Is Megyn inflatable? Lord knows her mouth is open all the time and it’s the only explanation I can figure for how she got the job…
Michael @ 7:38 I read your comment and could here Cyndi Lauper singing “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun”.
Dave, you just are not a nice person at all. IMO
Debbie, you might not have liked me much when I was in school I was not nearly as nice of a person as I am now.
Then I’m glad I didn’t know you then, Michael. At least you recognize and admit it. Some never do and some never change.
Please don’t take this wrong, but who you are today vs. who you were while in college is called becoming an adult.
“Michael@32. . .but Obama doesn’t have a law degree. . .oh, wait. . .he had to give it up!”
Leon, as usual, is 100 percent wrong. Obama has never given up his law degree. And besides that, nobody or thing has made him “give it up!”
It’s just like with Leon. No matter how totally frickin’ insane Leon is, NOBODY can make him give up his Accounting degree. He earned it. (Don’t mean he’s not a total kook though).
“Megyn is the dumbest “news” person in the history of television, bar none. And since she is the grand champion airhead and windbag, it begs the question: Is Megyn inflatable? Lord knows her mouth is open all the time and it’s the only explanation I can figure for how she got the job…”
Saint Root Boy Slim and the Rootettes passionately answered this question way back in 1983. One of the all-time greatest lines in the history of rock music is:
“I took her to church, but she didn’t confess — No, no, no no.”
I encourage you to give it a listen. It’s an AMAZING song.
No one can give up any degree. He might surrender his license to practice law but he cannot give up his degree. On another note, I could care less who wins the Heisman Trophy tonight. After the PC crowd literally stole the trophy from Peyton in 97 I could care less who wins it.
Just a different way of looking at things Dave. I can’t stand Alan Colmes and disagree with him on everything, but he has been very successful and I’m sure he is not dumb, you just don’t get it do you? Really figured that out after your post about Santa. How miserable you must be to be so hostile .
When my daughter was in high school she had a crush on a really cute boy. She never dated him, just wanted to. At her 10 year high school reunion he was there and started talking to her. Though she was married, there was still a little bit of the thrill of the cute boy paying attention to you, until a guy from their class, who had been a good friend of my daughter since elementary school walked past them and the “cute boy” started talking about her friend. He started talking about what a loser the guy had been in high school because back then he was overweight, and was laughing at him. My daughter just turned around and walked away. The cute boy had an ugly heart, and she was glad then that she hadn’t ever gone out with him.
Michael, Ron’s the one who asked how you changed, not Dave.
Great story Debbie. I constantly tell my boys the most important thing they can do is be nice and respectful to everyone regardless of what they look like, what size they are how smart/dumb, athletic or un athletic they are. I have no tolerance for arrogant condescending people as a matter of fact I ignore them.
Adam, then why is Megyn Kelly now saying it was an off-hand statement, made jokingly? Because the only color she really cares about is green. (As in money, if you didn’t get that.)
Merry and Joyous Christmahanukwanzakah, buddy!
I know I was responding to Dave’s remarks about Megyn. Ron I hope I have matured dome since college. Lets just say my priorities are much different now.
Debbie | December 14, 2013 at 9:10 pm Michael, Ron’s the one who asked how you changed, not Dave.
Ron May | December 14, 2013 at 8:28 pm Michael, Please don’t take this wrong, but who you are today vs. who you were while in college is called becoming an adult.
I don’t believe I ask a question Debbie.
Santa is white. He lives in the North Pole…not too much sunlight up there, and contrary to the global warming crowd it is still very cold at the North Pole. Not sure exactly what color Jesus was, but common sense would say a white man with dark complextion—similar to today’s Israelites.
Okay guys, my bad.
You’re teaching them well, Michael.
Debbie and crew,
Isn’t it funny how when we try to move forward in life things never change, but when we reminisce on the past, everything has changed?
Just like Ron May at #64, “I’m going to try and change the topic!”
Janine Pirro does quite a bit on FOX NEWS, but heck, she doesn’t have blonde hair!
For the folks who have conservative leanings, Pirro hits a bases loaded home run with her “opening statement” commentary on president obama. Her enthusiasm in reciting the facts is topped only the facts, themselves.
For the folks who have liberal leanings, you probably won’t much like what she has to say, but, it might be good for you to hear. I sincerely mean that.
I hope you all enjoy.
After you click the link, the screen you want is in the middle, and will play automatically when you rest the cursor on it. The date of the show is 11/23/13, and the run time is 7:44.
I see we are still trying to move forward with Frank.
Also, the Mormons are finally letting go of that whole black is the devil thing.
“the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them” (2 Nephi 5:21).”
So, I am assuming it is OK to have a Black Santa in Utah this year!
Here is the link to the Mormon crazy race thing.
And here is a video for you Frank:
An Ayn Rand devotee proves her theories by taking over one of America’s most revered retail brands.
Go, Crazy Eddie, go!
re: Megyn Kelly. George W. Bush wasn’t stupid either, but it didn’t keep him from having incredibly bad judgment!!!!
Santa is an adopted, transgender, African/Asian/Persian mix, bi-curious, HIV positive, atheist, liberal democrat that is deaf in one ear, blind in one eye, and has a club foot.
Dan: That WAS funny! “She whispered you’re the first, and then she burst!
Howdyshell: It’s called ribald humor. Some grown-ups like it once in awhile. Did you see the smiley face? (And what Santa joke are you talking about…. “She meant to say Mandela was white”? That was funny, too. Get a life sourpuss.)
I just don’t understand most of the peoples logic on this blog.
Please explain it to me.
Dan says Santa clause was white only because the paper he used to draw him as a kid was white, the others on here are so totally offended because megyn said he was white.
Why are you all so afraid to admit or say that he is white? Why does it matter? You cannot honestly admit here that if you were raised in the 60′s, 70′s, 80′s or earlier that you actually thought of Santa as being any other color that a old fat white man with a white beard.
Why are you so afraid to admit that today? It doesn’t make you a racist. I promise. I’m not racist and I think he is white.
Calling someone dumb or stupid because they say a stupid thing is dumb and stupid. I doubt anyone posting here could be on TV or radio for 40 minutes a day and not say something stupid or offensive every once in a while. Remember not everyone who says something stupid is conservative. Martin Bashir was fired from MSNBC for saying offensive things about Sara Palin-is he stupid? What about Alec Baldwin? What about Hillary Clinton saying Ghandi ran a gas station in St. Louis? I guess she must be stupid. I could go on, but I will stop. I am all for Kelly being called on this statement, but I doubt she is stupid.
Sorry Dave if I misinterpreted your post. #43 of course I have black friends I don’t chose friends or associates based on skin color. I actually believe we are moving towards a post race society.
“Dan says Santa clause was white only because the paper he used to draw him as a kid was white.”
Dishonest statement. Anyone surprised?
Justin True, the Mormons appear to be all kinds of crazy.
Adam, Santa Claus isn’t real. He is a fictional creation. Therefore he can be whatever color anyone wants him to be. This Santa is black and beloved. This is an excellent story. I read it in the RT this morning.
Adam, it is clear that we are as “honestly” admitting the truth as you are.
Frankly, as a young child still “believing” in Santa Claus I know that I had no notion of coloring anyone’s skin when I colored a picture of Santa or Jesus or the “3 Wise Men” or Hansel & Gretal. It was much later in life and a much bigger box of crayons before I can recall choosing a skin color, and like all kids I colored what was around me. Your simplistic idea that such a childish view of the world would mean Santa, or Jesus, or Hansel were therefore a specific “color” or nationality is as ridiculous as her specious comments were, but hey, if you defend a right wing TV personality, all is right in the world and should we dare to defend a left wing TV personality (though we seldom do so), we are somehow deficient. Your hypocrisy is staggering.
I know of at least one black Morman.
| December 15, 2013 at 10:17 am
“Dan says Santa clause was white only because the paper he used to draw him as a kid was white.”
Dishonest statement. Anyone surprised?”
Dan, see below what you said to me. How am I being dishonest?????????thats what you said! Please explain to me how I was wrong. Read your comment below
Dan#47. When we drew him his complexion was white — because that was the color of the paper.
“Jesus was not white. Historically verifiable.”
Jesus himself = not historically verifiable.
Santa Claus, however is historically verifiable, is black, and lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Jonathan Reid, does said “black Mormon” read? Or verifiable by any of the five senses?
If so, does he speak English and speak even without being spoken to?
Adam and others that are adamant about fictional characters being a certain race (odds are you think of Santa and Jesus as the race you are), um… why? When I think of Santa, I think about how in the hell am I going to get the pink Barbie Edition Cadillac Power-Wheel (that is still in the box in my garage), how am I supposed to get that thing together without a snooping five year old sleeping upstairs, hearing me cursing and throwing parts across my living room? All to keep her magical Christmas experience alive? If Santa brought me a Batman Power-Wheel when I was five, I wouldn’t give a sh*t what color he is!
Also, when I think about the color of Jesus, I know where he is from geographically, I know that his parents had a year round tan, and I also know that the plausibility of his existence is inline with that of Santa. So, there again. Don’t care what color he is, just as long as he keeps making them Chick Fil A sammiches so good, and keeps all them gays from happiness – I am OK with his race being outside Hitler’s.
Yes, he does read. I can only verify 4 of the five senses because I have never tasted him. He does speak English and does speak without being spoken to.
The real risk of permitting folks like Ms. Kelly have a national forum to spew her stuff (I cleaned that up Dan) is incidents like the one described in the link below.
The RT had a nice story on black “mall Santa’s”. I just hate that so many people are so racist about this and whether you like it or not, it is racist to carry on about the “color” of Santa and what he can and cannot be. Just stop already!
Here’s the story, Sandi, and it is a nice one.
What a ridiculous discussion! Really – What color crayon did you use to color Santa Claus?
Since the earlier box of Crayola Crayons had a “Flesh” colored crayon, I suppose most kids used it – however it was pinkish, and certainly did not match my skin nor my cousins…we certainly weren’t that weird pinkish color. But – Who – Cares?
With all the serious issues in the world to discuss, Adam yammers on about, and chooses the fictional Santa’s skin color – what a waste of keystrokes. Incredible.
One of my cousins left his white piece of paper untouched during art time in elementary school, and then brought i home. He told his mom that it was cows lost in the snow.
Wonder what Ms. Kelly would think of this Santa Claus??
It’s sad when white people like Howdyshell believe that we are moving toward a “post race society” when the opposite is true. Since Barack Obama won his first election I have seen more racism among people than when I was in high school (circa 1987). Since Santa Claus and Jesus are both fictional interpretations as being white in the western world does not mean that they were actually white or even existed. No one has been able to offer a true likeness of Jesus (even if he existed historically). It is more likely that he had brown skin instead of white.
“Post race” America simply does not exist yet. There is evidence of racism in media, politics, particularly in the south, and more likely in southwest Virginia. Dim witted Megyn Kelly proves that most of her type really believe that these two largely mythical entities are white. To defend her is to agree with her. If we were really in a post race society we wouldn’t have this blog topic because she wouldn’t have said it.
Yeah Debbie, that’s it, thanks for bringing it!
Cows lost in the snow, that is too funny!!
James H is right, anyone who might have thought we were in a post racial America should have been quickly disabused of that notion after the behavior and attitudes on display after November 2008! I cannot fathom anyone thinking that now. I cannot.
You’re welcome, Sandi.
I give you this:
Here’s another one. Notice how young some of these are. Sad indeed.
Read every one of my entries before you bash me. I said the same thing #28 my first comment….WHO CARES WHAT COLOR HE IS! ENJOY CHRISTMAS WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY!
My arguement was that this is no arguement. It is not nessesary to discuss except to people like Dan Casey to stroke his ego. Most people think of him as white, if you want to admit it or not, and it doesn’t matter! Who cares!
Dan, you still havent awnsered my post #108 where you call me a liar! You called me dishonest for saying EXACTLY what you said!
It’s a shame that you allowed the link to be posted from James H #125.
Shame on you and the Roanoke times.
I take full responsibility for the link I posted. What was one those kid yours? I don’t feel bad exposing any racist. Don’t blame the RT or Dan.
The real shame in the link I used was that these were real kids tweeting those horrible things. The counterpoint I was making was mainly to Howdyshell’s delusion that we are “moving toward a post race society”. Facts are ugly. I would like to hope that we would move beyond this but I won’t take the lazy approach and sweep it under the rug.
(e.g. “Race is only an issue for those that make it an issue”)
When you have been on the receiving end of bigoted hatred you will understand what a issue it is.
“Dan, you still havent awnsered my post #108 where you call me a liar! You called me dishonest for saying EXACTLY what you said!”
I did not call you a liar. That’s another dishonest statement.
You wrote: “Dan says Santa clause was white only because the paper he used to draw him as a kid was white.”
I responded: “Dishonest statement. Anyone surprised?”
The adjective “dishonest” was a modifier of the word “statement,” not you the anonymous blogger Adam. If you don’t understand that, ask any English teacher. They can explain it to you.
Btw, your statement “Dan says Santa clause was white only because the paper he used to draw him as a kid was white” was also dishonest. Here is what I wrote, in response to your question as to what color Santa Claus was when we drew him in schools:
“White beard, red suit, trimmed in white.
When we drew him his complexion was white — because that was the color of the paper.”
I was describing the grade-school DRAWING, Adam, not Santa himself. You’re claiming I wrote something different.
You need to pay more attention to the words used rather than get yourself all upset over your own faulty interpretation of those words. Seriously.
And btw Adam, I just wasted 15 minutes of my life responding to your dishonest statements. I’m not going to waste any more.
James H is saying how sad it is. Also the article is stating how terrible it is to have young people making these tweets. Maybe J.M White can give you a lesson in reading. I’m sure he would help you out if you just ask.
It’s a simple liberal trick that Dan is using to try to get away from being personally culpable of “lying”.
Dan is a wordsmith, and most of the rest of us aren’t, and this is the onliest way left for him to put his sentence dissection skills to work.
I actually closed the website link as soon as I read the first sentence in the address bar. That was enough to know I wanted to read no further. I guess we should be free to posts links to any sites we deem necessary to prove our point.
Regardless of what the point of the site was, it shouldn’t be allowed by Casey or the Roanoke time.
People say all sorts of racist things on many different websites. There shouldn’t be links to them.
Debbie @ 117: I don’t remember this, but my Mom told me that when I was around 4 years old, I had an imaginary cat. He was white and his name was Spotless.
And to Dan,
Sorry I caused you to spend 15 minutes to do your job. It likely took you longer to come up with that ridiculous response.
Is the sentence, If you like your insurance, you can keep it” dishonest or a modifier on the adjective???
OK, who asked that local electric contractor not to say Merry Christmas? Fess up! The poor business had to create a commercial to rebuff your demand FGS. That cannot have been cheap. You should feel ashamed!
James H. is and will always be my hero!
James et al see 173 on Goodlatte blog copied to wrong blog. My bad
#134 I love it, Contra!
Justin: I take my inspiration from you.
It’s Bcon for starters. Yes it should be allowed. Free speech is a right granted to us by the U.S Constitution. It is not like everyone on here is saying wahoo racism!!
She said something stupid on television. Since I was a child I’ve seen plenty of multicultural Santas. Santa isn’t even real so it’s a pointless argument anyways. Unless you still believe in him then make sure you get too bed early on Christmas eve.
Also Dan does not even make any money off the blog. He has another job and then has taken on moderating a blog that he does not make any extra money on. So say Thankyou to Dan for giving you a place to speak your mind that he moderates on his free time.
Bcon, bcom, or whatever your name is,
Apparently you enjoy reading terrible websites as such was listed.
It has nothing to do with free speech. It has to do with the ethical feelings and code of conduct of the newspaper.
Dan even mentions in his introduction that four letter words will not be tolerated. If he won’t publish a four letter word on the blog, then he shouldn’t publish a link with that type of language on it.
The word has six letters….
James H., No way! You are a great man and an inspiration to way more than I could ever dream of! If my little boy is half the man you are, I will be a happy daddy!
LOL Fox News. That was pitiful. First of all, they say that Jesus Christ is about on the same level with Santie in the measure of historical authenticity, then they claim he is white… that both of them are white. Great way to defend you way of thinking when you aren’t exactly in a pro Conservative society. The media takes anything it can grab and will sting. Fox can’t afford slip ups of this sort. Santa is a… well, you know… rather a bit of legend, shall we say? Whereas, Jesus’ life is related in the four gospels, a section of the New Testament. FYI, the New Testament passes the Internal Test, External Test, and the Bibliographic Test of authenticity better than ANY document of its time. So, His life as the Bible relates just might not be a myth. Just sayin’.
I think a lot of people think of Santa and Jesus as “white” because it is strongly placed as an image in our minds by what we see around us. Foe example, when we all grew up, the Jesus in our little bible story books was always very Anglo-Saxon looking. So was Adam, and about every Bible character. A white Santa appears in everything we see and are used to seeing. Look in Walmart, Dollar Tree, the ornaments on your tree. White skin, white beard, blah blah blah. Jesus was a Jew. He probably looked like he was from the Middle East.
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Wed, 18 Dec 2013 14:06:31 +0000
Metro Columnist Dan Casey knows a little bit about a lot of things but not a heck of a lot about most things. That doesn't keep him from writing about them, however. So keep him honest!
He welcomes your rants, raves and considered opinions, so long as the language is civil (i.e. no four-letter words). He'll read all your posts and may or may not respond.