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UVa Insider, the column: More from Shuman and staff stuff

One of the first tweets I saw this morning was from a reader suggesting that Fork Union Military Academy coach John Shuman was “ticked” at Virginia.

For a guy who has had two sons play for Virginia Tech, the UVa football staff couldn’t have a bigger ally.If former UVa coach Al Groh (or was it Ron Prince ?) hadn’t passed on Shuman’s older son, Ryan, I think it’s quite possible that both boys could have ended up as Cavaliers.

Their grandfather, Bill Miller, was one of the Cavaliers’ best basketball players of his era.

But, John Shuman wasn’t ticked at Virginia when he put defensive lineman Tyrell Chavis on the phone with me Wednesday.

He was fed up with the disingenuous antics of three Fork Union players who had committed to Virginia, including safety Malcolm Cook off the Fork Union undergraduate team coached by Mickey Sullivan, who retired after this season.

When UVa coach Mike London stopped by Fork Union on Monday and met with Chavis and Valles, they never told him they were decommitting.

As soon as London left, they said they were reopening their recruiting.

Decommitting? Reopening? What’s the difference?

Shuman insisted on putting Chavis on the phone with me Wednesday and dared him to tell me that he was decommitting, which Chavis did, although he said he is still considering UVa.

“Until you tell Mike London, you’re not opening it up,” Shuman said.

That’s the quote I used in today’s College Notebook.

Shuman went on to say, “You’re opening it up on e-mail and stuff you’re doing behind our back. On the computer. Facebook. That’s how these guys get in touch with coaches now.

“What they’re doing in opening it up is, they’re trying to get stroked.”

I REMEMBERED Shuman’s comments when former longtime Virginia Tech assistant Jim Cavanaugh was moved into an administrative post and wondered what Shuman had to say about Jim Reid’s ouster as UVa defensive coordinator.

“When you go over to camps and work with Jim Reid and Jeff Hanson and hang out with Shawn Moore for what, four years … ?” Shuman said. “We went over there and listened to Jim Reid until 12:45 in the morning.

“Jim Reid has been a warrior everywhere. VMI, Richmond, UMass, Boston College, in the pros. The defense was a monster [at Virginia Tech]. They couldn’t block [Brent] Urban, they couldn’t block No. 9 [Laroy Reynolds], No. 13 [Da Da Romero]. You got a rising superstar, [Eli] Harold coming on. My geez!

“Who are they going to get?”

SHUMAN DESCRIBED himself as a Jon Tenuta supporter for the UVa defensive coordinator’s post and my understanding is that Tenuta is in the running.

A possible hold-up would be the composition of the rest of the defensive staff and whether Tenuta would be able to bring anybody with him. Holdovers from the 2012 defensive staff are Vincent Brown (linebackers), Anthony Poindexter (cornerbacks) and Chip West (safeties).

Poindexter could move to running backs, a role he filled earlier in his UVa years, but would Tenuta be OK with Brown and West. West is a great recruiter and he’ll stay regardless but neither he nor West had coached above the Division I-AA level before coming to Virginia.

Indeed, an absence of coaching experience at the I-A level is seen as a possible reason for Virginia being in the shape it is. Who on London’s first staff in 2010 had been a I-A assistant? Reid at Boston College, Poindexter, Scott Wachenheim at Rice?

And, you’ve got to wonder about the offensive staff if it includes coordinator Bill Lazor, Poindexter, Wachenheim and first-time full-timer Marques Hagans. People have asked me if Virginia had enough coaching firepower on the offensive side of the ball and that was before the changes.

 

 

 

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  1. DW | December 7, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Totally agree. Wrote on another site how I felt the assistants ML hires will be just as important as the DC. He needs guys with that same hunger and passion, but more experience and frankly better coaches period.

    I did think it was the other way around though with AP handling the safeties and Chip on the corner, but a more experienced/different hand with the defensive backs would be great as that is easily still the worst position on the defense.

    And I love Hagans but if a position on offense needs more coaching than the receivers than I don’t know what it is. Maybe qb, but that’s Lazor’s gig and I don’t see him giving it up unless he’s fired.

  2. crooked road | December 8, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Football needs more people like John Shuman. A LOT more.

  3. Mike3 | December 9, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    I’m sure I am not quailified to know the best time to announce coaching changes. My thoughts are the biggest problem was that the Head Coach London was exposed for his poor decision making and poor clock management during the VT-UVA game. This has put him under a microcspope and the future brunt of much scritiny next season. The caliber, clout, and capability of the replacement coaching staff hired should be very revealing.

  4. Doug Doughty | December 10, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    You’re right. It was Poindexter on safeties and West on corners. I’m curious what’s up with special teams. I think it’s almost imperative to get somebody whose chief focus is special teams — they’re THAT important — but not sure how they make the numbers work.

  5. Doug Doughty | December 10, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    UVa has never used the nearby prep schools — Fork Union, Miller, Fishburne, etc. — to maximum advantage.

  6. Doug Doughty | December 10, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    The best time is not so late as to lose somebody who might be gobbled up by another school.

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