2011.06.15
Handicapping a potential Nutter vs. Edwards race
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The big political news so far this week has to be Del. Dave Nutter’s announcement that he’ll seek the Republican nomination to challenge state Sen. John Edwards, D-Roanoke.
Now, the Christiansburg legisalator first has some opposition for the GOP nomination in Roanoke insurance agent Tripp Godsey, who has some Tea party support. But Godsey’s an unknown political factor; Nutter isn’t. With all due respect to Godsey, I want to skip ahead to handicapping a potential Nutter vs. Edwards race.
The conventional wisdom has been that Edwards has a safe Democrat seat. But is it? Let’s look at the numbers:
* The last time Edwards had opposition was 1999, when William Fralin was the Republican nominee. Edwards won, of course, (and Fralin later went on to win a House seat.) But the district then looks very different from what it does now. Then it was Roanoke city and part of Roanoke County. Now it’s Roanoke city, parts of western and northern Roanoke County, plus a big chunk of Montgomery County and all of Giles County. You can find a map of the district here on the Virginia Public Access Project site.
* Here’s what I notice: In 1999, Roanoke city (which you’d have to assume would be part of Edwards’ base) accounted for 50 percent of the votes in that election. But now . . .Roanoke accounts for only 44 percent of the voting strength in that district. So redistricting has diminished Edwards’ base.
* Interestingly, the New River Valley portion of the district accounts for . . . hmm, exactly 44 percent of the votes in that district, the same share as Roanoke city!
* That means the remainder is in the section of (mostly rural) Roanoke County needed to connect Roanoke with the New River.
This leads me to some thoughts and questions:
* Edwards has represented parts of Montgomery County and Giles since the redistricting after the 2000 census, but he’s never faced opposition — so voters there have never really had a chance to vote for him or against him there. So I have to wonder: How well connected is Edwards in the New River Valley? Granted, there’s certainly some Democratic strength there — but are other voters going to feel more kinship with Nutter, who’s from the New River Valley, and doesn’t exactly cut the most partisan Republican profile?
* Republican Bob McDonnell carried that Senate district with just under 52 percent of the vote in the 2009 gubernatorial race. Now, that was a blow-out election statewide and 52 percent is a fairly narrow margin but still . . . this isn’t a Democratic lock, by any means.
* Of note: McDonnell took almost 53% of the vote in the Montgomery County part of that district and nearly 66% of the vote in the Giles County part of that district. Does this spell trouble for Edwards in that end of the district?
* Roanoke city is, of course, quite Democratic. Creigh Deeds took about 55% of the vote there, even in a bad Democratic year. In that 1999 race against Fralin, Edwards took 64 percent of the vote in the city.
So….do we think Nutter will get the same percentage of the vote in NRV that Edwards will get in Roanoke city? For argument’s sake, let’s say “yes.” If so, that means the election would get decided in that mostly rural portion of Roanoke County — and that’s Republican territory. Closer to Edwards’ base, but still Republican. (McDonnell took nearly 65% of the vote there.)
If Nutter got the same percentage of the vote in NRV that Edwards does in Roanoke city, then the advantage would seem to go to Nutter — on the theory that the natural Republican base of Roanoke County would kick in on his behalf.
If, however, we think Edwards will run better in Roanoke city than Nutter does in NRV, well, there’s still that sliver of GOP-leaning Roanoke County to think about. So then the question is…what percentage would Nutter have to achieve in NRV to win?
Put another way: Can Edwards duplicate that 64% slice of the Roanoke city vote? In his favor: In 1999, he was running against a fellow well known in Roanoke; Nutter won’t have that advantage. And if Edwards can duplicate that, can Nutter come close to that kind of margin in New River? He took 60 percent in his 2009 re-election against Peggy Frank, although that district didn’t include Giles County (and did include some areas that aren’t in this Senate district.)
In any case, this is a different year, different candidates, all the rest. Still, both Edwards and Nutter have shown that in the past they can top 60 percent on their home turf. How will do they do against each other?
There may be other ways to look at this — but that’s my initial take from looking at the numbers.
This is looking like a fun one to watch.
– Dwayne Yancey









Its easier to mobilize voters in an urban city than rural areas due to proximity to polls and density. They wont perform the same NRV (nutter) versus Roanoke City (Edwards). clear advantge Edwards.
Another Democrat wouldd have a better chance against Nutter than Edwards. To bad it isn’t another one or that he does not get beat in a primary.
Comment by jrv@peopleinc.com — June 15, 2011 @ 12:25 pm
Your analysis is interesting but, I believe, flawed. First of all, you must remember that the portion of Montgomery County that Nutter has represented in the past is the Christiansburg/Riner area – NOT Blacksburg. The portion of Montgomery County in this Senate race IS primarily Blacksburg, which is heavily Democratic. Therefore, the notion that Nutter can do as well in Montgomery County as Edwards will do in Roanoke is faulty. Edwards will clearly win the Roanoke area because of heavily Democratic Roanoke City, AND Edwards will do very well and probably win Montgomery County, because of the heavily Democratic town of Blacksburg. Nutter will win GIles and Roanoke County, but Edwards clear victories in Roanoke City and the Town of Blacksburg, will carry the day.
Comment by Earl K — June 16, 2011 @ 2:55 pm
I suppose we should also wonder that if Godsey loses the primary would he still run as a Tea party independent, which would almost guarantee Edwards a victory.
Comment by belle — June 16, 2011 @ 4:21 pm
Thanks, Earl. Yes, I’m aware of that, and while I didn’t say so explicitly (but perhaps should have), that’s one of the key thoughts behind my question: Can Nutter perform as well in NRV as Edwards does in the Roanoke Valley? Let’s assume he doesn’t . . . what percentage of the vote would Nutter have to achieve in Montgomery County to win overall? Somebody with a bigger calculator than mine would probably compute that. For instance, McDonnell took 53 percent of the vote in that portion of Montgomery County in a good Republican year and a bad Democratic one; if Nutter took 53 percent, would that be enough? Or not enough? Dunno. But I suspect that means the epicenter of that race may well be in Montgomery County.
– Dwayne Yancey, senior editor
Comment by Dwayne Yancey — June 16, 2011 @ 4:34 pm
Another interesting issue may be whether or not there are any highly contested local races on the ballot in Roanoke City (probably not) or Roanoke County (maybe) that might help drive turnout. For example, I suspect that the house and senate candidates that will be running in districts that include Franklin County can expect heavy turnout, based on the probably united effort to oust Sheriff Hunt (assuming he is the Republican nominee). I think that you are correct that Nutter will have to win Blacksburg/Montgomery County to have a chance, maybe by 53 or 55% or so, but I think if Edwards wins big in the Town of Blacksburg, say 55% or more, then its game over for ol Dave.
Comment by Earl K — June 16, 2011 @ 5:42 pm
Good points, all. There’s a contested supervisor’s race in the Catawba District of Roanoke County that could help drive up turnout there. Perhaps more interestingly, there are a BUNCH of contested races developing in Montgomery County, which would surely help drive turn-out there. I can’t say who that would help, but it does make it more interesting.
Here’s a round-up we recently ran:
http://blogs.roanoke.com/communitycurrent/2011/06/candidates-who-have-filed-in-montgomery-county/
– Dwayne Yancey
Comment by Dwayne Yancey — June 16, 2011 @ 6:25 pm
Dave Nutter has an Obama-isq quality… people like him. Voters connect with him… His campaigns have been a bit non-strategic in the past, that is, he just gets out and smiles and shakes hands. I think he’s going to need a lot more meat and potatoes. Edwards is more strategic and calculated, but not as charming. I’m going with Nutter by less than 500 votes.
Comment by Mike Daynic — June 16, 2011 @ 8:50 pm