As usual you turn the parameters and demand that someone else prove their position even though you did no such thing. Typical.

What you seem to be missing in most “conversations” on any blog, is that people can have, express and believe an opinion. Sometimes that opinion is based in observations over time, experience and even concrete sources. Doubtless you are familiar with the right wing delivered talking points you so often parrot and yet still demand respect for (as if), but I will offer some sources for what I expressed, even though you offered NOTHING for yours except pretzel logic.

You asked me for “some facts to support your claim above that “a large majority of the Conservative voting base is poor, uneducated or less well educated, religious, bigoted–fearful of gays, immigrants, gangs and “the blacks”, and believes every conspiracy against Jesus they can dream up, and vote accordingly. Many of them are also on “disability” or are retired”

Since the 15th Amendment was ratified the Southern Conservatives have worked hard to disenfranchise non-white voters. Many of theses “Conservatives” were poor, white, uneducated and bigoted to the point of being Klan members, this is a well documented fact: They were called “Democrats” for a long time but they were what evolved into the Southern Republicans and eventually just the right wing conservative voting block.
You can start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disfranchisement_after_Reconstruction_era

and here: http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/books/phillips-southern.pdf

and here: http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2011/03/31/theyre-poor-scared-less-educated-and-left-behind-new-polling-data-from-gallup-on-conservatives-and-red-state-america/

and here:http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/02/the-conservative-states-of-america/71827/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fevga9jUC48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topics/obama-can-not-guarantee-social

http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/07/11/scenes-from-the-tea-party/

http://www.gallup.com/poll/127181/tea-partiers-fairly-mainstream-demographics.aspx

YOU can do your own reading. But, again, I rest my case and await any proof of your specious remarks.

Yes it’s a word.

The fact is that the Code only requires an expired sticker or plate as an excuse to steal your vehicle after a 10 day notice. It could be a Rolls Royce, has nothing to do with the vehicle being “decrepit” whatsoever.

“unmown”

Is that a word?

VTHokie…why do you hate freedom?

“Reduce Code Enforcement to condemn only homes that are truly dangerous.Eliminate grass citations to the worst cases only.Quit tagging and stealing vehicles for expired sticker or tags.”

So JackM’s Tea Party Utopia will be populated with firetraps set in a vista of unmown lawn decorated with decrepit vehicles. Ah, I can just smell the spirit of the FF from here. Or maybe that’s trash.

Or alternatively, you would be charged with a misdemeanor (or maybe even a felony) and fined for disobeying the law. And good rightwinger that you(not you VTHokie) are you stand up for your insane principles and refuse to pay the fine. The city puts you in jail and gets a judgment against you which attaches to your property. You refuse to pay the judgment so they take enforcement action and ultimately your property is sold to pay the fines and costs! So much for your property rights. This is what extremists do. They do not think through the consequences of their sound bite philosophies.

Here’s what would happen. Let’s say you are not required through taxes to pay for the city to come pick up your trash each week. Instead, you can choose to pay for a private trash collecting service. Or they can choose to dump it themselves, but most city dumps (I know Salem does this) only allow you one free trip per year and then you have to pay to dump trash at the city dump every time after that. So either way, it’s gonna cost you.

Now, because of sanitation issues, as well as property value concerns, the city will still need to mandate that people dispose of their trash regularly. People will get citations for letting their garbage pile up. Oh the oppression. The anti-freedom!!!

At this point, people will start screaming that if the city is going to “force” them to haul off their trash regularly, they ought to provide it as a service.

And we’re back at square one.

Cities, with a concentration of people and a dearth of open land have to have different laws and services than rural communities. That “freedom” means to you, that you can trash your property and it have no bearing on your neighbors is the kind of arrogant ignorance that causes a lot of problems. Slumlords and people willing to live in squalor simply do not get to make that choice, mainly because they would. Cooking over a fire and bathing in a creek might be a choice you should have the “freedom” to make, but why should your neighbors or the flora/fauna be burdened with that blight? Obviously we have not all evolved, and if you prefer not to live in a nation of laws and respect your neighbors and the society you live in, some things are then compulsory.

Yes, water, sewer, trash, buses, libraries, hospitals, airports, roads, bridges, landfills, dams, the police, firemen, rescue squads, parks, schools and the courts (and the people they employ) all benefit society as a whole and the costs of all of those services shared among the people in the community, state and nation is more fair (and cheaper) than the idea of picking and choosing what you want to pay for based only on what you say you use. The price of living in society is helping to pay for the services all or most use.