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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2012/06/15/goodlatte-issues-statement-on-obamas-immigration-order/#comment-12597</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gregory Honeycutt, it is beyond doubt that millions upon millions of Americans would love to see a viable third party.  If the TEA Party had been a serious contender they would not have meshed and taken so much GOP money, influence and assistance.  You cannot disavow the connection while feeding at the trough, that just makes you an ungrateful step-child.

The TEA Party is no more a third party, a third choice or a third distinction than I am.  It is a pipe dream of some very frustrated libertarians and deep conservatives but it is still a pipe dream.  Truthfully, you have a better chance of manipulating the GOP than of becoming a third party.  It is a done deal, stick with it, embrace it and move on.

That any of you work to elect Romney (and you will), proves my point for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory Honeycutt, it is beyond doubt that millions upon millions of Americans would love to see a viable third party.  If the TEA Party had been a serious contender they would not have meshed and taken so much GOP money, influence and assistance.  You cannot disavow the connection while feeding at the trough, that just makes you an ungrateful step-child.</p>
<p>The TEA Party is no more a third party, a third choice or a third distinction than I am.  It is a pipe dream of some very frustrated libertarians and deep conservatives but it is still a pipe dream.  Truthfully, you have a better chance of manipulating the GOP than of becoming a third party.  It is a done deal, stick with it, embrace it and move on.</p>
<p>That any of you work to elect Romney (and you will), proves my point for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Hill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2012/06/15/goodlatte-issues-statement-on-obamas-immigration-order/#comment-12581</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 03:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;See, Art...that makes me not want to bother with you guys.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Feeling&#039;s mutual, Greg. All you folks do is throw a wrench in the works. 
And for the record, I consider both Virginia Senators epic failures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;See, Art&#8230;that makes me not want to bother with you guys.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Feeling&#8217;s mutual, Greg. All you folks do is throw a wrench in the works.<br />
And for the record, I consider both Virginia Senators epic failures.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Honeycutt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2012/06/15/goodlatte-issues-statement-on-obamas-immigration-order/#comment-12567</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Honeycutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See, Art, those are the nonsense kind of comments that make me not want to bother with you guys. They don&#039;t have anything to do with the discussion at hand - just the electronic equivalent to sticking your tongue out. 

dave on the other hand came closer. Though point #1 at JHL is just his wish, and point #4 is just a jab, Points #2 &amp; 3 are valid, at least for argument. Sometime I&#039;d be up for a debate on the legitimacy of DHS, which btw is a Bush-era creation that is VERY frowned upon by most of us. 

If you&#039;d actually spent 5 minutes on our website, you&#039;d know we&#039;re not very big fans of the Republican Party either, at least not for the sake of political parties. It just fits your narrative better to say things like that, and that&#039;s fine, whatever... the people you&#039;d like know better, and the rest don&#039;t care. When was the last time you publicly announced a ten-term Democrat Congressman was an epic failure? Or when was the first time?

The fact is, after all the accusations of racism, bigotry, and hypocrisy of the past three years, the candidates we favored most (in the recent primaries) were a white female retired Air Force officer , and a black pastor from Chesapeake. No they didn&#039;t win, but thanks to the efforts of some Tea Party folks, at least there were candidates we could vote for without gagging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, Art, those are the nonsense kind of comments that make me not want to bother with you guys. They don&#8217;t have anything to do with the discussion at hand &#8211; just the electronic equivalent to sticking your tongue out. </p>
<p>dave on the other hand came closer. Though point #1 at JHL is just his wish, and point #4 is just a jab, Points #2 &amp; 3 are valid, at least for argument. Sometime I&#8217;d be up for a debate on the legitimacy of DHS, which btw is a Bush-era creation that is VERY frowned upon by most of us. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;d actually spent 5 minutes on our website, you&#8217;d know we&#8217;re not very big fans of the Republican Party either, at least not for the sake of political parties. It just fits your narrative better to say things like that, and that&#8217;s fine, whatever&#8230; the people you&#8217;d like know better, and the rest don&#8217;t care. When was the last time you publicly announced a ten-term Democrat Congressman was an epic failure? Or when was the first time?</p>
<p>The fact is, after all the accusations of racism, bigotry, and hypocrisy of the past three years, the candidates we favored most (in the recent primaries) were a white female retired Air Force officer , and a black pastor from Chesapeake. No they didn&#8217;t win, but thanks to the efforts of some Tea Party folks, at least there were candidates we could vote for without gagging.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Hill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2012/06/15/goodlatte-issues-statement-on-obamas-immigration-order/#comment-12550</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The tea party didn&#039;t do so well in the recent Congressional primaries. 
Where were you guys when President Cheney decided that torture was legal?
Oh, the hypocrisy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tea party didn&#8217;t do so well in the recent Congressional primaries.<br />
Where were you guys when President Cheney decided that torture was legal?<br />
Oh, the hypocrisy!</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2012/06/15/goodlatte-issues-statement-on-obamas-immigration-order/#comment-12544</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JHL

1. Romney will never
 be President
2. The law creating Homeland Security and the powers granted to thast agency to establish regulations gives them the authority to take this step.
3. When the opposition can do nothing but obstruct for the sake of obstructing, smart people look for legal ways to accomplish what needs to be accomplished. The Obama administration found one. 
4. What eally burns the Republicans is that they have been outsmarted--yet again.

Gregg Honeycutt--- Five minutes on the local tae party website tells me all I need to know about them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JHL</p>
<p>1. Romney will never<br />
 be President<br />
2. The law creating Homeland Security and the powers granted to thast agency to establish regulations gives them the authority to take this step.<br />
3. When the opposition can do nothing but obstruct for the sake of obstructing, smart people look for legal ways to accomplish what needs to be accomplished. The Obama administration found one.<br />
4. What eally burns the Republicans is that they have been outsmarted&#8211;yet again.</p>
<p>Gregg Honeycutt&#8212; Five minutes on the local tae party website tells me all I need to know about them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2012/06/15/goodlatte-issues-statement-on-obamas-immigration-order/#comment-12540</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually JHL, by &quot;acquiescing&quot; previously, you granted Obama this authority.  History often repeats itself, unfortunate as that may be.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/transcript2.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually JHL, by &#8220;acquiescing&#8221; previously, you granted Obama this authority.  History often repeats itself, unfortunate as that may be.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/transcript2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/transcript2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Honeycutt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2012/06/15/goodlatte-issues-statement-on-obamas-immigration-order/#comment-12534</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Honeycutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone finally found what I was looking for... turns out, this was not an &#039;executive order&#039; after all, but an &#039;administrative memo&#039;. So that explains why it couldn&#039;t be found on either the Federal Register or White House websites.

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s1-exercising-prosecutorial-discretion-individuals-who-came-to-us-as-children.pdf

Congressional rules are an entirely separate issue dave. The issue, (at least for me) here is not immigration reform, it&#039;s the law. The guy charged with ultimately enforcing the law says he won&#039;t. In a &#039;memo&#039;. 

And you know nothing about the Tea Party. =)

Here is some interesting commentary on what the memo says versus what it does: http://cis.org/feere/obamas-administrative-dream-act-myths]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone finally found what I was looking for&#8230; turns out, this was not an &#8216;executive order&#8217; after all, but an &#8216;administrative memo&#8217;. So that explains why it couldn&#8217;t be found on either the Federal Register or White House websites.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s1-exercising-prosecutorial-discretion-individuals-who-came-to-us-as-children.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s1-exercising-prosecutorial-discretion-individuals-who-came-to-us-as-children.pdf</a></p>
<p>Congressional rules are an entirely separate issue dave. The issue, (at least for me) here is not immigration reform, it&#8217;s the law. The guy charged with ultimately enforcing the law says he won&#8217;t. In a &#8216;memo&#8217;. </p>
<p>And you know nothing about the Tea Party. =)</p>
<p>Here is some interesting commentary on what the memo says versus what it does: <a href="http://cis.org/feere/obamas-administrative-dream-act-myths" rel="nofollow">http://cis.org/feere/obamas-administrative-dream-act-myths</a></p>
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		<title>By: JHL</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2012/06/15/goodlatte-issues-statement-on-obamas-immigration-order/#comment-12533</link>
		<dc:creator>JHL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, Dave...  If the opposition seeks to obstruct the will of the President, it&#039;s fine for the chief executive to act unilaterally? Keep that in mind when the next Republican takes the office. By acquiescing, you are granting Romney this same authority.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Dave&#8230;  If the opposition seeks to obstruct the will of the President, it&#8217;s fine for the chief executive to act unilaterally? Keep that in mind when the next Republican takes the office. By acquiescing, you are granting Romney this same authority.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2012/06/15/goodlatte-issues-statement-on-obamas-immigration-order/#comment-12530</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gregory Honeycutt, I get that you don&#039;t like it, but Obama is not &quot;acting outside the law&quot;.  He has that prosecution prerogative and he is choosing not to use it and divert the issue for future decisions and devote the ICE resources to getting rid of the criminal and negative illegal immigrants as a priority.  He has deported more illegal immigrants than Bush FGS.  It is a reprieve not an amnesty and who believes these people were going anywhere in the first place?

I ranted and raved like a mad woman, even cited the true Conservatives who believed that Bush/Cheney were pushing boundaries that this nation would have turned apoplectic if Hillary Clinton (presumed next president at the time) used them, back in the day, and all to no avail, the Cons were not having it.  So now, no, I do not see the urgency anymore.  It is politics and they will take it as far as they can.  It is a given.

http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2010/11/editorial-dont-cause-a-scene-in-security/

http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2009/07/saturdays-letters-to-the-editor-7/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory Honeycutt, I get that you don&#8217;t like it, but Obama is not &#8220;acting outside the law&#8221;.  He has that prosecution prerogative and he is choosing not to use it and divert the issue for future decisions and devote the ICE resources to getting rid of the criminal and negative illegal immigrants as a priority.  He has deported more illegal immigrants than Bush FGS.  It is a reprieve not an amnesty and who believes these people were going anywhere in the first place?</p>
<p>I ranted and raved like a mad woman, even cited the true Conservatives who believed that Bush/Cheney were pushing boundaries that this nation would have turned apoplectic if Hillary Clinton (presumed next president at the time) used them, back in the day, and all to no avail, the Cons were not having it.  So now, no, I do not see the urgency anymore.  It is politics and they will take it as far as they can.  It is a given.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2010/11/editorial-dont-cause-a-scene-in-security/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2010/11/editorial-dont-cause-a-scene-in-security/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2009/07/saturdays-letters-to-the-editor-7/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2009/07/saturdays-letters-to-the-editor-7/</a></p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/politics/2012/06/15/goodlatte-issues-statement-on-obamas-immigration-order/#comment-12529</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg Honeycutt

The problem is we cannot have a legitimate debate on immigration policy.
We had one months ago in 2010. The House of Representatives  passed a bill. It had the support of 55 senators. But Republicans in the Senate blocked it due to their filibuster power and the rewuirement for a super majority to break the filibuster. This has been the case for all significant legislation during the Obama years except for the btief time
between July 2009 and January 2010.And since that time, the Republicans, dancing to the tea party tune, have done nothing but obstruct, obfuscate,
and denagogue the issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Honeycutt</p>
<p>The problem is we cannot have a legitimate debate on immigration policy.<br />
We had one months ago in 2010. The House of Representatives  passed a bill. It had the support of 55 senators. But Republicans in the Senate blocked it due to their filibuster power and the rewuirement for a super majority to break the filibuster. This has been the case for all significant legislation during the Obama years except for the btief time<br />
between July 2009 and January 2010.And since that time, the Republicans, dancing to the tea party tune, have done nothing but obstruct, obfuscate,<br />
and denagogue the issue.</p>
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