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	<title>Comments on: Chris OBrion on today&#8217;s school shooting</title>
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		<title>By: 89Hoo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2012/12/chris-obrion-on-todays-school-shooting/#comment-153539</link>
		<dc:creator>89Hoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then you would find Jefferson, Mason, Madison et al irrational,  Sandi, as that was one of their intentions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then you would find Jefferson, Mason, Madison et al irrational,  Sandi, as that was one of their intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2012/12/chris-obrion-on-todays-school-shooting/#comment-153530</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still cannot credit thinking your guns are a cure all or last line of defense (or is it offense?) from the government.  That kind of thinking is not rational IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still cannot credit thinking your guns are a cure all or last line of defense (or is it offense?) from the government.  That kind of thinking is not rational IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2012/12/chris-obrion-on-todays-school-shooting/#comment-153529</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not trust the government, that is not remotely what I put my trust in.  

I think it is convenient to blame the government for not having schools and public areas manned by armed security.  I guess we want to be more like Israel?  Is that really the solution you see here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not trust the government, that is not remotely what I put my trust in.  </p>
<p>I think it is convenient to blame the government for not having schools and public areas manned by armed security.  I guess we want to be more like Israel?  Is that really the solution you see here?</p>
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		<title>By: 89Hoo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2012/12/chris-obrion-on-todays-school-shooting/#comment-153522</link>
		<dc:creator>89Hoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[106 - I would also add the we are encouraged to trust the government to keep us safe...and that didn&#039;t work out so well in Connecticut, which, by virtue of the government declaring the school a gun-free zone (see how effective that was?) isolated a whole set of victims who had no ability to defend themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>106 &#8211; I would also add the we are encouraged to trust the government to keep us safe&#8230;and that didn&#8217;t work out so well in Connecticut, which, by virtue of the government declaring the school a gun-free zone (see how effective that was?) isolated a whole set of victims who had no ability to defend themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2012/12/chris-obrion-on-todays-school-shooting/#comment-153519</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nor can I fathom how anyone can be so trusting of the government.

Just look at how well that worked out for the indians.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nor can I fathom how anyone can be so trusting of the government.</p>
<p>Just look at how well that worked out for the indians.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2012/12/chris-obrion-on-todays-school-shooting/#comment-153488</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot fathom how people so afraid of and disdainful of their government can bear to live here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot fathom how people so afraid of and disdainful of their government can bear to live here.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#103 - Registration tells those in power who has the guns and where to go to confiscate them.

No.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#103 &#8211; Registration tells those in power who has the guns and where to go to confiscate them.</p>
<p>No.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2012/12/chris-obrion-on-todays-school-shooting/#comment-153478</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my never ending quest to be the catalyst for hits to the RT threads, here is my answer Herb.  Bear in mind that I am not a legislator, lobbyist, or even an activist.  I am just a blogger.

I support registration for every gun and tracking that requires guns stolen to be reported, guns traded, sold or gifted to also require background checks such that when someone without documentation is found with a gun, that alone is a crime and we can catch criminals before they commit a crime. Follow the gun and end at least some of the carnage.

I support the “Assault Weapons Ban” and the large magazine ban. With those already registered before the ban, allowed with the same caveats as above if they change hands.

I support a law that says that when a Restraining Order is issued, the police remove all guns from the premises and no guns can be purchased; same for anyone adjudicated as mentally ill or anyone who is institutionalized or diagnosed with certain mental illnesses until such situations are adjudicated as stable and no longer needing such precautions.

In that same vein, I support civil rights legislation that says such interventions cannot be used to discriminate against the people involved so that the stigma of getting help or being evaluated on some level does not ruin lives, the way a felony conviction does.

Our society has a vested interest in a mechanism knowing who has guns or access to guns when they have certain mental illnesses, domestic violence issues, criminal records or proven trails leading that way. Seldom is a crime the first signal of something wrong. We do not need to wait for a criminal to commit a crime, if merely being caught with a gun is a crime and a serious one.

My whole point is to “get tough” on the criminals and more closely watch the mentally ill, not to make gun ownership, self-defense, sport or enjoyment impossible for gun owners. There is no need for gun laws to prevent the law-abiding people from exercising their second amendment rights. There never has been. That has not been an actual goal for most of us, and certainly not an attainable one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my never ending quest to be the catalyst for hits to the RT threads, here is my answer Herb.  Bear in mind that I am not a legislator, lobbyist, or even an activist.  I am just a blogger.</p>
<p>I support registration for every gun and tracking that requires guns stolen to be reported, guns traded, sold or gifted to also require background checks such that when someone without documentation is found with a gun, that alone is a crime and we can catch criminals before they commit a crime. Follow the gun and end at least some of the carnage.</p>
<p>I support the “Assault Weapons Ban” and the large magazine ban. With those already registered before the ban, allowed with the same caveats as above if they change hands.</p>
<p>I support a law that says that when a Restraining Order is issued, the police remove all guns from the premises and no guns can be purchased; same for anyone adjudicated as mentally ill or anyone who is institutionalized or diagnosed with certain mental illnesses until such situations are adjudicated as stable and no longer needing such precautions.</p>
<p>In that same vein, I support civil rights legislation that says such interventions cannot be used to discriminate against the people involved so that the stigma of getting help or being evaluated on some level does not ruin lives, the way a felony conviction does.</p>
<p>Our society has a vested interest in a mechanism knowing who has guns or access to guns when they have certain mental illnesses, domestic violence issues, criminal records or proven trails leading that way. Seldom is a crime the first signal of something wrong. We do not need to wait for a criminal to commit a crime, if merely being caught with a gun is a crime and a serious one.</p>
<p>My whole point is to “get tough” on the criminals and more closely watch the mentally ill, not to make gun ownership, self-defense, sport or enjoyment impossible for gun owners. There is no need for gun laws to prevent the law-abiding people from exercising their second amendment rights. There never has been. That has not been an actual goal for most of us, and certainly not an attainable one.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven K</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2012/12/chris-obrion-on-todays-school-shooting/#comment-153443</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I see O&#039;Brion truly hit a nerve with all the screeching and howling and gnashing of teeth in this thread.

&quot;There was nothing that coukd have stopped this guy&quot;
Ahhh yes, that good old cynicism.  I&#039;ve said this before, and I&#039;ll say it again:  It&#039;s funny how America&#039;s rightists label us more progressive folks as &quot;defeatists&quot; whenever we scoff at their claims that they can force Islamic countries to transform into U.S.-style democracies, but when it comes to such things as universal health care and gun control, it&#039;s these same rightists who become the cynics that say nothing can be done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I see O&#8217;Brion truly hit a nerve with all the screeching and howling and gnashing of teeth in this thread.</p>
<p>&#8220;There was nothing that coukd have stopped this guy&#8221;<br />
Ahhh yes, that good old cynicism.  I&#8217;ve said this before, and I&#8217;ll say it again:  It&#8217;s funny how America&#8217;s rightists label us more progressive folks as &#8220;defeatists&#8221; whenever we scoff at their claims that they can force Islamic countries to transform into U.S.-style democracies, but when it comes to such things as universal health care and gun control, it&#8217;s these same rightists who become the cynics that say nothing can be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2012/12/chris-obrion-on-todays-school-shooting/#comment-153021</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cant stand trying to type on a phone. My last sent is supposed to read. So what is your solution to control you say we so badly need.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant stand trying to type on a phone. My last sent is supposed to read. So what is your solution to control you say we so badly need.</p>
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