Comments on: Beyond the gun show loophole

By: Gary

Gary — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:01:43 +0000

In today’s News.

“Accidental gunfire at three gun shows around the United States on Saturday left five injured, authorities said.

Three people were injured in Raleigh, North Carolina, at the Dixie Gun and Knife Show at the state fairgrounds, a quarterly event that usually draws thousands of people. State agriculture department spokesman Brian Long said a 12-gauge shotgun discharged as its owner unzipped its case for a law enforcement officer to check at a security entrance.

Two bystanders were hit by shotgun pellets and taken to a hospital. A retired deputy sheriff suffered a slight hand injury.

Long said the shotgun’s owner, 36-year-old Gary Lynn Wilson, brought the weapon to the show to find a private buyer. Sheriff Donnie Harrison said it was too early to know whether Wilson might be charged.

In Indiana, police said a 54-year-old Indianapolis man was injured when he accidentally shot himself while leaving a gun show.

State Police said Emory L. Cozee was loading his .45 caliber semi-automatic when he shot himself in the hand as he was leaving the Indy 1500 Gun and Knife show at the state fairgrounds. Loaded personal weapons are not allowed inside the show.

Cozee was hospitalized for treatment. Police say the shooting was accidental and no charges will be filed.

Meanwhile, authorities in Ohio said a gun dealer in Medina was checking out a semi-automatic handgun he had bought when he accidentally pulled the trigger, injuring his friend. The gun’s magazine had been removed from the firearm but one round remained in the chamber, police said.”

By: 89Hoo

89Hoo — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:08:19 +0000

130 – better that NONE should have a chance, right? Honestly, your objection baffles me.

By: Sandi Saunders

Sandi Saunders — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:09:16 +0000

Oh, or better yet, a lottery! Yippee! At least some of them will survive!

By: 89Hoo

89Hoo — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:39:51 +0000

125 – I don’t know, Sandi. I think the point that all these whackjobs that attacked schools that were designated gun-free zones may contradict your contention that armed guards would be the first targets. If that were the case, we would see more schools with armed guards attacked (private schools, perhaps). And in the (admittedly small) sample set of schools that are not gun free zones that have been attacked, often an armed individual has ended the attack.

The people who attack schools are bullies and thugs, and generally go out of their ways to avoid confrontation, particularly where they may wind up getting hurt.

Here’s an idea: since the safest schools appear to be those with armed guards (like the elite private schools the Ruling Class send their kids), why not use a voucher program to allow lower-income folks to send their kids to safer schools?

By: 89Hoo

89Hoo — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:44:39 +0000

Byrd also filibustered against the 1964 Civil Rights Act…led about his time a Imperial Grand Whoopeedoo of the Klan….

By: Dave Hicks

Dave Hicks — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:14:01 +0000

Re: Sandi Saunders @ 8:51 pm

I don’t believe that I assumed that you were fighting “putting SRO’s in elementary schools”. If I came across that way it was poor communication on my part.

FWIIW, I tend to agree that uniformed “armed guards” might just be the first target for anyone determined on rampage. Hence, it might also be a good idea to have the SRO’s in plain clothes discretely carrying. To be sure, the students at the MS/HS level would surely know who she/he is. However, an outsider…?

What I am envisioning is additional discrete carry by a number of “arming volunteers, support staff, security guards, teachers, administrators, etc (who are willing to carry).” IMHO, that does change the dynamic.

By: Sandi Saunders

Sandi Saunders — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:23:48 +0000

I have never met anyone who “loved” Robert Byrd, but yes, the left took his apology and his lifelong efforts to make amends as presented and did not hold it against him forever. I will add that West Virginia kept electing him, not “the left”. Oddly, it seems few have ever held Patrick Henry responsible for the hypocrisy of his life and faith. How is it you revile only the one who apologized and made amends and not the one who kept doing wrong after acknowledging it was?

By: Sandi Saunders

Sandi Saunders — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 01:51:07 +0000

Interesting that my comments and “membership” in the “gun-ban crowd” leaves you so sure we are fighting “putting SRO’s in elementary schools”.

Honesty compels me to note that “armed guards” are just the first target for anyone determined on rampage. We ALL know what that will turn into and it will be even more “superficial”, “feel good” and “useless” as you claim getting these massive shooting machines off the market will be. But then I guess you will have your own “Mission Accomplished” moment and claim victory.

By: Dave Hicks

Dave Hicks — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:57:40 +0000

Re: Chuck @ 1:09 pm

Check older threads.

Earlier, I said I’d pay higher taxes to put SRO’s in every school — that includes elementary schools.

FWIIW, I also support arming volunteers, support staff, security guards, teachers, administrators, etc (who are willing to carry).

By: Dave Hicks

Dave Hicks — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:42:18 +0000

Re: Sandi Saunders @ 11:00 pm

Look as if we might.