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	<title>Comments on: Gun compromise fails in Senate</title>
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		<title>By: Potstech</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/roundtable/2013/02/gun-compromise-fails-in-senate/#comment-160954</link>
		<dc:creator>Potstech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 17:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If a proposed law will not do what it is proposed to do then it is not a good law. By the writers own words this is the case for this law. From then onward his credibility on the issue is in doubt. I would like to know hwat other freedom or right the author would give up for something that is a huge problem but is not being solved in the right way.  The problem isn&#039;t guns but the people behind the guns.  Less than 15 states provide all the information to the federal government inorder to ensure a good background check. The information that is provided is often 6 to 12 months behind the actual reason for being placed on the list. so in that 6-12 months a person forbidden to buy a firearm can. Also the gun control people liek to quote the thousands who are stopped every year but the can not show at many as 100 convictions nationwide for people attempting to buy a gun who are on the registry. Why not as it is a felony? Instead these potential buyers are left out on the streets to get a firearm another way that does not require any checks.  Laws are only as good as the enforcement and we are not enforcing current laws. Any more will do not good whatsoever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a proposed law will not do what it is proposed to do then it is not a good law. By the writers own words this is the case for this law. From then onward his credibility on the issue is in doubt. I would like to know hwat other freedom or right the author would give up for something that is a huge problem but is not being solved in the right way.  The problem isn&#8217;t guns but the people behind the guns.  Less than 15 states provide all the information to the federal government inorder to ensure a good background check. The information that is provided is often 6 to 12 months behind the actual reason for being placed on the list. so in that 6-12 months a person forbidden to buy a firearm can. Also the gun control people liek to quote the thousands who are stopped every year but the can not show at many as 100 convictions nationwide for people attempting to buy a gun who are on the registry. Why not as it is a felony? Instead these potential buyers are left out on the streets to get a firearm another way that does not require any checks.  Laws are only as good as the enforcement and we are not enforcing current laws. Any more will do not good whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 16:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those elected by the citizens of the commonwealth have not done the RTEB&#039;s bidding.  The RTEB wishes to circumvent them with the federal government.  Why?

http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/virginia/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those elected by the citizens of the commonwealth have not done the RTEB&#8217;s bidding.  The RTEB wishes to circumvent them with the federal government.  Why?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/virginia/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/virginia/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John R</title>
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		<dc:creator>John R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 15:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Gun compromise fails in Senate&quot; Good!

Universal background checks will not deter the bad guys from obtaining a gun. It would lead to universal registration of guns for everyone except criminals which means the feds will know where you are and how many guns you have. This would be the first step toward confiscation of lawful guns which is just what the bleeding heart libs really want. It will not deter criminals.

Universal registration of guns is not the same as obtaining a drivers permit. Driving is a privilege granted to citizens by the state after meeting certain requirements, not a Constitutional right.

Gun ownership is a universal right granted to all citizens by the Constitution in the Bill of Rights with no distinction as to why the citizen should have or want a gun. A concept the bleeding hearts refuse to recognize!

The problem is not the law abiding citizen who owns a gun. The problem is the nut cases allowed to roam the streets and the lack of enforcement of existing gun laws.

Before the mid sixties, dangerous anti-social nuts could be forcibly institutionalized. If violent, they could even be forced to undergo a frontal lobotomy, a simple short non-invasive procedure that would render the patient non violent. Lobotomies are no longer used because the same result can be achieved chemically with tranquilizing medication.

In the mid sixties, the bleeding hearts had the state mental institutions closed and the patients turned loose in the community supposedly controlled with medication. Unfortunately, often there is no supervision of these patients and no way to force them to stay on their medication. 

Lack of control of these nut cases plus the patient confidentiality laws has led to thousands of dangerous nuts roaming the streets, the majority of which could pass the current gun background check.

The VT shooter several years ago is a case in point. His parents, his high school officials, even the VT faculty knew of his anti-social dangerous behavior. The result was those that could have prevented the tragedy looked the other way.

The recent Alabama nut that kidnapped the 5 year old boy is another case. His violent behavior was well known in the community. There was a time when such a person would be placed in an institution.

The same bleeding hearts that go ballistic over the Patriot Act which weeds out terrorists also want the &quot;rights&quot; of violent nut cases roaming the streets protected while the constitutional rights of peaceful law abiding citizens are violated. 

Beam me up Scottie, there is no intelligent life down here!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gun compromise fails in Senate&#8221; Good!</p>
<p>Universal background checks will not deter the bad guys from obtaining a gun. It would lead to universal registration of guns for everyone except criminals which means the feds will know where you are and how many guns you have. This would be the first step toward confiscation of lawful guns which is just what the bleeding heart libs really want. It will not deter criminals.</p>
<p>Universal registration of guns is not the same as obtaining a drivers permit. Driving is a privilege granted to citizens by the state after meeting certain requirements, not a Constitutional right.</p>
<p>Gun ownership is a universal right granted to all citizens by the Constitution in the Bill of Rights with no distinction as to why the citizen should have or want a gun. A concept the bleeding hearts refuse to recognize!</p>
<p>The problem is not the law abiding citizen who owns a gun. The problem is the nut cases allowed to roam the streets and the lack of enforcement of existing gun laws.</p>
<p>Before the mid sixties, dangerous anti-social nuts could be forcibly institutionalized. If violent, they could even be forced to undergo a frontal lobotomy, a simple short non-invasive procedure that would render the patient non violent. Lobotomies are no longer used because the same result can be achieved chemically with tranquilizing medication.</p>
<p>In the mid sixties, the bleeding hearts had the state mental institutions closed and the patients turned loose in the community supposedly controlled with medication. Unfortunately, often there is no supervision of these patients and no way to force them to stay on their medication. </p>
<p>Lack of control of these nut cases plus the patient confidentiality laws has led to thousands of dangerous nuts roaming the streets, the majority of which could pass the current gun background check.</p>
<p>The VT shooter several years ago is a case in point. His parents, his high school officials, even the VT faculty knew of his anti-social dangerous behavior. The result was those that could have prevented the tragedy looked the other way.</p>
<p>The recent Alabama nut that kidnapped the 5 year old boy is another case. His violent behavior was well known in the community. There was a time when such a person would be placed in an institution.</p>
<p>The same bleeding hearts that go ballistic over the Patriot Act which weeds out terrorists also want the &#8220;rights&#8221; of violent nut cases roaming the streets protected while the constitutional rights of peaceful law abiding citizens are violated. </p>
<p>Beam me up Scottie, there is no intelligent life down here!</p>
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