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		<title>By: Luanne T.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/roundtable/2009/06/12/cheating-on-the-sols/#comment-50050</link>
		<dc:creator>Luanne T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bud, Please post a link to your study. I'd like to look at it. Is it simply per pupil cost or does it factor in socio-economic conditions, parental education levels and so on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bud, Please post a link to your study. I'd like to look at it. Is it simply per pupil cost or does it factor in socio-economic conditions, parental education levels and so on?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say...it's  a pity this report couldn't have been held one day longer so that the kids could have their graduation without having to be under this cloud. It's not like lives were in danger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say...it's  a pity this report couldn't have been held one day longer so that the kids could have their graduation without having to be under this cloud. It's not like lives were in danger.</p>
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		<title>By: BUD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/roundtable/2009/06/12/cheating-on-the-sols/#comment-50026</link>
		<dc:creator>BUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting data from the Clare Boothe Luce policy institute. They used 2005 data to determine which school districts in Virginia were getting the best bang for the buck. Neighboring school districts in Salem and Roanoke county were determined to be moderately cost effective when looking at academic achievement and cost per pupil. Roanoke city schools were in the LEAST EFFICIENT category along with 11 other school districts in this study. And now this....Will Carson and Bishop have the nerve, wisdom and "rope" to improve the city's schools?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting data from the Clare Boothe Luce policy institute. They used 2005 data to determine which school districts in Virginia were getting the best bang for the buck. Neighboring school districts in Salem and Roanoke county were determined to be moderately cost effective when looking at academic achievement and cost per pupil. Roanoke city schools were in the LEAST EFFICIENT category along with 11 other school districts in this study. And now this....Will Carson and Bishop have the nerve, wisdom and "rope" to improve the city's schools?</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my.

The student speakers at PH's graduation on Friday were excellent.   Their wisdom was beyond their years.  Their comments were thoughtful on on target.  In my opinion, they out - ranked the school administrators' speeches  by  light -years!  The students elevated the thought that the graduates are NOT the sum of their scores on SOl tests, SAT, etc.

I am so sorry for the events at WF.  I am so sorry that the RCPS has allowed  "fear" to permeate the system - leaving many educators deeply troubled and constantly looking over their shoulders.  The School Board ($) and the central administrators MUST conduct themselves ethically.  Administrators MUST treat everyone in their buildings with respect.  Teachers must demonstrate professional behaviors ... that doesn't mean wearing a tie or heels.  Parents must become invested in their children's education... they  ARE their children's primary teachers.  

Please take a look at the site from which the information was copied below.
The following was taken from:  http://www.wyoea.org/qualityschools/high-stakes-testing.html


The Perils of High-stakes Testing
"Far from improving education, high-stakes testing marks a major retreat from fairness, from accuracy, from quality and from equity."
           The Late Senator Paul Wellstone, (1944-2002)

Nichols and Berliner cite Campbell' s Law, brought to the attention of social scientists in 1975 by Donald Campbell, which stipulates that:

"the more any quantitative social indicator is used for social decision-making, the more subject it will be to corruption pressures and the more apt it will be to distort and corrupt the social processes it was intended to monitor."

Using examples from business, sports, and government, Nichols and Berliner point out multiple instances of what happens when indicators have high-stakes consequences attached.   "the more importance that an indicator takes on, the more likely it, and the people who depend on it, will be corrupted."

Nichols and Berliner are not against accountability.  They are not against standardized testing.  They are against high-stakes tests, because they result in cheating, in exclusion of students, in erosion of test validity, and in damage to the professionalism of educators.

Some of the ways in which education has been corrupted to make school test scores appear higher, and to make it appear that students have learned more, include:

a narrowing of the curricula,
an increase in time devoted to activities focused on how to take the test,
apparent increases in cheating by administrators and teachers,
forcing out low-performing students,
manipulation of dropout, special education and ELL rates, and
increased retention rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my.</p>
<p>The student speakers at PH's graduation on Friday were excellent.   Their wisdom was beyond their years.  Their comments were thoughtful on on target.  In my opinion, they out - ranked the school administrators' speeches  by  light -years!  The students elevated the thought that the graduates are NOT the sum of their scores on SOl tests, SAT, etc.</p>
<p>I am so sorry for the events at WF.  I am so sorry that the RCPS has allowed  "fear" to permeate the system - leaving many educators deeply troubled and constantly looking over their shoulders.  The School Board ($) and the central administrators MUST conduct themselves ethically.  Administrators MUST treat everyone in their buildings with respect.  Teachers must demonstrate professional behaviors ... that doesn't mean wearing a tie or heels.  Parents must become invested in their children's education... they  ARE their children's primary teachers.  </p>
<p>Please take a look at the site from which the information was copied below.<br />
The following was taken from:  <a href="http://www.wyoea.org/qualityschools/high-stakes-testing.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wyoea.org/qualityschools/high-stakes-testing.html</a></p>
<p>The Perils of High-stakes Testing<br />
"Far from improving education, high-stakes testing marks a major retreat from fairness, from accuracy, from quality and from equity."<br />
           The Late Senator Paul Wellstone, (1944-2002)</p>
<p>Nichols and Berliner cite Campbell' s Law, brought to the attention of social scientists in 1975 by Donald Campbell, which stipulates that:</p>
<p>"the more any quantitative social indicator is used for social decision-making, the more subject it will be to corruption pressures and the more apt it will be to distort and corrupt the social processes it was intended to monitor."</p>
<p>Using examples from business, sports, and government, Nichols and Berliner point out multiple instances of what happens when indicators have high-stakes consequences attached.   "the more importance that an indicator takes on, the more likely it, and the people who depend on it, will be corrupted."</p>
<p>Nichols and Berliner are not against accountability.  They are not against standardized testing.  They are against high-stakes tests, because they result in cheating, in exclusion of students, in erosion of test validity, and in damage to the professionalism of educators.</p>
<p>Some of the ways in which education has been corrupted to make school test scores appear higher, and to make it appear that students have learned more, include:</p>
<p>a narrowing of the curricula,<br />
an increase in time devoted to activities focused on how to take the test,<br />
apparent increases in cheating by administrators and teachers,<br />
forcing out low-performing students,<br />
manipulation of dropout, special education and ELL rates, and<br />
increased retention rates.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb Krebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb Krebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you this.
I hear from a reliable inside source that thier
is much more to this then moving students around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you this.<br />
I hear from a reliable inside source that thier<br />
is much more to this then moving students around.</p>
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		<title>By: pammala</title>
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		<dc:creator>pammala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOLs are ridiculous. Only a students actual real grade, and not on a curve, should count. How sick this country is dumbing down students in the first place. the lady and her fraudulent cohorts should be fired immediately and the parents should sue her butt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOLs are ridiculous. Only a students actual real grade, and not on a curve, should count. How sick this country is dumbing down students in the first place. the lady and her fraudulent cohorts should be fired immediately and the parents should sue her butt</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's always two steps forward and one step back for Roanoke City Schools. If you purposefully circumvent state testing requirements, that's a problem. There's no good explanation...it's outright cheating or if the staff at Fleming claims they didn't know the requirements, then it's an admission of organizational incompetence.  The city schools also employ a director of testing who should be in a position to keep checks on each school's compliance. That's a no brainer.  What a mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's always two steps forward and one step back for Roanoke City Schools. If you purposefully circumvent state testing requirements, that's a problem. There's no good explanation...it's outright cheating or if the staff at Fleming claims they didn't know the requirements, then it's an admission of organizational incompetence.  The city schools also employ a director of testing who should be in a position to keep checks on each school's compliance. That's a no brainer.  What a mess.</p>
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		<title>By: catspaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>catspaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon the typos in the above post.  Sticky keys...sticky SOLS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon the typos in the above post.  Sticky keys...sticky SOLS</p>
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		<title>By: catspaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>catspaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only does the head of Fleming done a great injustice to all the students, she has violated so many aspects of the American's with Disability act, recently strenghten as ADA Restoration Act, that the students excluded hae effctively had their civil rights stripped away in the very environment mandated to protect them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only does the head of Fleming done a great injustice to all the students, she has violated so many aspects of the American's with Disability act, recently strenghten as ADA Restoration Act, that the students excluded hae effctively had their civil rights stripped away in the very environment mandated to protect them.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your tax money at its' best!  Nice return yea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your tax money at its' best!  Nice return yea!</p>
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