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		<title>By: Blue John</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/roundtable/2009/07/03/editorial-perriello-stands-tall/#comment-52279</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Georgie went to war because Dickie told him to!</description>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/roundtable/2009/07/03/editorial-perriello-stands-tall/#comment-52270</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure you understand that just because the vote was there, doesn't mean its the will of the people.

Due to our somewhat faulty political system, it would have been career suicide for any democrats to not vote for attacking a country (no matter which one it was) after 9/11.  They would have been skewered in the media, and by the public which was too blinded by its outrage to make intelligent decisions about who was responsible and who to attack.  This carried all the way through the Bush administration by the society of fear they created.  Always we're under the threat of terrorists.  Anyone who buys into this and alters their lifestyle for it has lost their freedom, as they are beholden to a silent invisible enemy.

The simple truth is, id say a very small minority actually would have asked for two wars.  Those that profit off the military-industrial complex, particularly those who make money like Blackwater and Haliburton for providing services to war-torn countries.  

Voting for something doesn't mean it's right.  People voted for and still vote for steroid users in baseball, and that surely isn't right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure you understand that just because the vote was there, doesn't mean its the will of the people.</p>
<p>Due to our somewhat faulty political system, it would have been career suicide for any democrats to not vote for attacking a country (no matter which one it was) after 9/11.  They would have been skewered in the media, and by the public which was too blinded by its outrage to make intelligent decisions about who was responsible and who to attack.  This carried all the way through the Bush administration by the society of fear they created.  Always we're under the threat of terrorists.  Anyone who buys into this and alters their lifestyle for it has lost their freedom, as they are beholden to a silent invisible enemy.</p>
<p>The simple truth is, id say a very small minority actually would have asked for two wars.  Those that profit off the military-industrial complex, particularly those who make money like Blackwater and Haliburton for providing services to war-torn countries.  </p>
<p>Voting for something doesn't mean it's right.  People voted for and still vote for steroid users in baseball, and that surely isn't right.</p>
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		<title>By: pammala</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/roundtable/2009/07/03/editorial-perriello-stands-tall/#comment-52260</link>
		<dc:creator>pammala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..."Gee BUD, I don't know, did the country ask for two wars..."

my gosh how many times does it have to be said

IT WAS VOTED ON</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..."Gee BUD, I don't know, did the country ask for two wars..."</p>
<p>my gosh how many times does it have to be said</p>
<p>IT WAS VOTED ON</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/roundtable/2009/07/03/editorial-perriello-stands-tall/#comment-52256</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Gee BUD, I don't know, did the country ask for two wars, constitutional ignorance and disrespect, secrecy and corruption from the Bush/Cheney administration?"

Maybe not, Sandi, but the Obama administration is doing a darn good job of following in their footsteps...despite promising "change".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Gee BUD, I don't know, did the country ask for two wars, constitutional ignorance and disrespect, secrecy and corruption from the Bush/Cheney administration?"</p>
<p>Maybe not, Sandi, but the Obama administration is doing a darn good job of following in their footsteps...despite promising "change".</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/roundtable/2009/07/03/editorial-perriello-stands-tall/#comment-52254</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee BUD, I don't know, did the country ask for two wars, constitutional ignorance and disrespect, secrecy and corruption from the Bush/Cheney administration?  The country asked for a President with the courage to clean out the "bad" only fools expected that not to stink or be painless.  That so many of the guilty are leading the rants against him only confirms the wisdom of our choice at this point. 

I do not advocate that anyone vote without information, I just note that it is not simply an Obama phenomenon.  FYI, Tom Delay was the House Minority Leader known as "the hammer".  Trent Lott, was a leader in the House AND in the Senate, Armey was a House leader as well.  Tancredo wanted to run for President, only Goode was simply a soldier.

Like many voters, I do tend to support those I vote for, "mancrush" not withstanding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee BUD, I don't know, did the country ask for two wars, constitutional ignorance and disrespect, secrecy and corruption from the Bush/Cheney administration?  The country asked for a President with the courage to clean out the "bad" only fools expected that not to stink or be painless.  That so many of the guilty are leading the rants against him only confirms the wisdom of our choice at this point. </p>
<p>I do not advocate that anyone vote without information, I just note that it is not simply an Obama phenomenon.  FYI, Tom Delay was the House Minority Leader known as "the hammer".  Trent Lott, was a leader in the House AND in the Senate, Armey was a House leader as well.  Tancredo wanted to run for President, only Goode was simply a soldier.</p>
<p>Like many voters, I do tend to support those I vote for, "mancrush" not withstanding!</p>
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		<title>By: BUD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Sandi..speaking of the Patriot Act, your mancrush prez Obama voted for its reauthorization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Sandi..speaking of the Patriot Act, your mancrush prez Obama voted for its reauthorization.</p>
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		<title>By: BUD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/roundtable/2009/07/03/editorial-perriello-stands-tall/#comment-52251</link>
		<dc:creator>BUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandi..so the country asked for 1) an $800,000,000,000 stimulus bill that isn't?  2)gov takeover of major segments of the auto industry?3) the creation of 20+ czar like positions to bypass cabinet appointees? 4) the creation of a $1.500,000,000,000 annual deficit? I just don't recall that happening or better yet dems campaigning with those promises

Interesting that you tolerate congress voting for bills when they are unfamiliar with the contents... just what was the hurry?  And when were ARMEY DELAY TANCREDO and GOODE heads of the house and senate? I said Warner et al were good smart folks and my beef is with the leaders Pelosi and Reid. Given congress's low 20's approval rating, looks like people are smarter than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandi..so the country asked for 1) an $800,000,000,000 stimulus bill that isn't?  2)gov takeover of major segments of the auto industry?3) the creation of 20+ czar like positions to bypass cabinet appointees? 4) the creation of a $1.500,000,000,000 annual deficit? I just don't recall that happening or better yet dems campaigning with those promises</p>
<p>Interesting that you tolerate congress voting for bills when they are unfamiliar with the contents... just what was the hurry?  And when were ARMEY DELAY TANCREDO and GOODE heads of the house and senate? I said Warner et al were good smart folks and my beef is with the leaders Pelosi and Reid. Given congress's low 20's approval rating, looks like people are smarter than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better a candidate in office that didn't read a bill than a bigot in office who hasn't read the constitution.</description>
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		<title>By: The Professor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/roundtable/2009/07/03/editorial-perriello-stands-tall/#comment-52247</link>
		<dc:creator>The Professor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Standing tall?  Hardly.  Right vote wrong reason.  Periello reportedly was one the fence even last Thursday in order to see which side would prevail on the bill so he could be on the winning side.  He wasn't about to pay a price for backing a losing bill.  It was the correct vote, but hardly a courageous one.  He knows he's a freshman who has to walk the chalk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standing tall?  Hardly.  Right vote wrong reason.  Periello reportedly was one the fence even last Thursday in order to see which side would prevail on the bill so he could be on the winning side.  He wasn't about to pay a price for backing a losing bill.  It was the correct vote, but hardly a courageous one.  He knows he's a freshman who has to walk the chalk.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/roundtable/2009/07/03/editorial-perriello-stands-tall/#comment-52242</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Standing tall = voting for the progress and change your country asked for and being willing to take the heat that is already being applied for that vote.  Perriello has a precarious seat and yet still evidences the courage and character we were smart enough to see in him.  Do you actually recall Virgil Goode voting AGAINST the Republican leadership (no towering pillars of virtue and character there either!) back in his day?  You are trying to shoot a messenger for doing his job.  

If you are under the impression that ALL pols read every word in every bill before the vote is taken, you simply do not understand how our government works or you hope that those reading your words do not know any better.  Perhaps if "The Patriot Act" had not been the choking pill that it was, the ugly precedent you so dislike would not have been set.  But there it is.  That is, as I mentioned before, the crux of the problem.  How do you un-ring a bell?  How do you stop Obama/Biden from exercising the same self-serving prerogatives granted to Bush/Cheney?

I know it is a bitter pill that people we don't like get elected.  More bitter that those we do not support are in leadership positions. Having survived, Dick Armey, Bob Barr, Trent Lott, Tom Delay, Tancredo, Goode, et al, I predict you will survive the ubiquitous Pelosi and Reid until there constituents send them packing as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standing tall = voting for the progress and change your country asked for and being willing to take the heat that is already being applied for that vote.  Perriello has a precarious seat and yet still evidences the courage and character we were smart enough to see in him.  Do you actually recall Virgil Goode voting AGAINST the Republican leadership (no towering pillars of virtue and character there either!) back in his day?  You are trying to shoot a messenger for doing his job.  </p>
<p>If you are under the impression that ALL pols read every word in every bill before the vote is taken, you simply do not understand how our government works or you hope that those reading your words do not know any better.  Perhaps if "The Patriot Act" had not been the choking pill that it was, the ugly precedent you so dislike would not have been set.  But there it is.  That is, as I mentioned before, the crux of the problem.  How do you un-ring a bell?  How do you stop Obama/Biden from exercising the same self-serving prerogatives granted to Bush/Cheney?</p>
<p>I know it is a bitter pill that people we don't like get elected.  More bitter that those we do not support are in leadership positions. Having survived, Dick Armey, Bob Barr, Trent Lott, Tom Delay, Tancredo, Goode, et al, I predict you will survive the ubiquitous Pelosi and Reid until there constituents send them packing as well.</p>
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