2008.08.20
The game of politics...your move
John McCain and..
a) Tom Ridge
b) Joe Lieberman
c) Mitt Romney
Barack Obama and ..
a) Joe Biden
b) Evan Bayh
c) Tim Kaine
d) After the visceral reaction to an earlier entry, dare I ask Hillary Clinton?
(By special request:)
Bob Barr and ...
a) Wayne Allyn Root
NONE OF THE ABOVE?
McCain should ignore the party's political true believers and pick a pro-choice candidate. Come on, Maverick, reclaim those old ways!
By the way, the hard-right wingers should realize their diminished influence. They let Karl Rove snooker them with talk of "moral" issues such as gay marriage and abortion. That blinded them to the pressing issues of war, economics and health care. The result has been a no-more-moral and increasingly shrinking middle class. Go figure.
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Where is the Bob Barr option?
Comment by Ed S. — August 21, 2008 @ 9:10 am
Virginians...don't cut off your nose just to spite your face by voting Republican. By voting Democratic with Barack Obama at the helm, and hopefully Tim Kaine as VP, with Jim Webb and Mark Warner as two stalwart Senators can do nothing but put the state in good stead for the next eight years...economically, healthwise, and politically; thus leading the rest of the US onto higher ground.
Comment by Bobby Buck — August 21, 2008 @ 11:06 am
Thanks, Shanna. Go Barr! I guess I select option (a), Wayne Allyn Root. Do I win?
Bobby Buck,
Rather than vote "Republican" or "Democrat", I encourage others to vote for a particular candidate. There are issues in both parties that I cannot stand with, so I refuse to support either party. Rather, I vote for the candidate that best matches my views, regardless of their party affiliation.
Comment by Ed S. — August 21, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
Ed,
In this case if the Democratic ticket lines up as I stated earlier, then it will best represent the future of Virginia. I did in fact vote against the Democratic Party in the most recent local race in Roanoke with former Mayor Harris at the helm and again before then with Delegate Ware for district representative. These politicians represent/represented the "big money" in the Valley; as John McCain will continue to be a puppet for the "big lobbyists" outside of Virginia. Therefore, I, by no means, am a party supporter unless the party presents individuals deserving of my vote. I have recently queried Congressman Bob Goodlatte on getting the FDA more involved in providing safe and cheaper prescription drugs to be cleared for import to the US, of which he has not responded, and if he does not, I will vote for Mr. Rasoul to see if he can do a better job of helping people in the Valley with the high cost of meds.
Comment by Bobby Buck — August 21, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
Mr. Bobby Buck:
What you've written probably makes more sense than anything that's ever appeared here except for good old Shanna-Pooh. I was going to add something but I think I'll just HURSH now.
Percy, remember this the next time I write something that has you spewing your coffee and screaming, "WHAT IS SHE THINKING!?"--s
Comment by Percy Kution — August 21, 2008 @ 3:20 pm
Bobby Buck,
Okay, now I understand that you were talking about a specific ticket.
But I do not agree that it will best represent the future of Virginia.
Comment by Ed S. — August 21, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
Kaine as VP? Obama must have saved a little of the weed that he has confessed to using in his youth. And Webb, Warner and Kaine putting the state "in good stead?" That Taxing Trio will leave us all with empty wallets.
Gilmore is a loser too, but that's simply an argument for a write-in candidate like Virgil Goode. And how can Joe Biden, who was involved in a law school CHEATING SCANDAL, even be considered? Oh well, CHEATING never hurt Bobby or Ted Kennedy did it? My alma mater welcomed them with open arms after they were booted from other schools, as I recall.
Comment by Mike — August 22, 2008 @ 1:00 am
You left off who I think is the best, and most likely, pick for McCain: Governor Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota. He's not too well known, but he seems to have several qualities that would help McCain. Pawlenty is respected by the conservative wing of the GOP, but he's able to win votes in blue states like his own. He would be a very valuable asset to McCain in the midwest swing states.
Comment by VaGuy — August 22, 2008 @ 8:44 am
Presidential-VP guesses?
McCain-Romney
Obama-Biden
I have been leaning toward Obama, but I am not completely in line with all his views. I would like some answers regarding some of his past associations. I am personally offended and horrified over the recent story regarding the botched abortion of the down syndrome baby allowed to die. I know he was not involved in that in any way. But his views disturb me greatly.
I am an independent voter. But, I have always supported Bob Goodlatte for Congress and will again. I have received prompt responses from his staff and personal help from him when needed. He is trustworthy.
Comment by Goldenwillow — August 22, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
Biden... an excellent choice when it comes to containing animal farm's right-wing rogues of American Republicanism that's barreling the nation down a road of no return, with an abysmal toll in the form of terrorist trolls, a resurging bear, and a fire-breathing dragon...all standing in line to consume the once high-flying eagle. Not American isolationism but American engagement from a new platform, free of the bluff and bluster from the Reagan-Bush era, that can be newly presented by future President Obama, with no political axes to grind, will restore a sense of honor while achieving honorable goals around the globe.
Comment by Bobby Buck — August 23, 2008 @ 3:19 am
Well, per the previous note by Goldenwillow, he or she has completed, in basketball terms, the first of 2 free throws. I feel Goldenwillow has a great chance of making the second free throw. Sen. McCain, at this time is starting to appear a bit desperate and bitter. Perhaps by picking the more photogenic and sharper empty suit will enhance his seriously weak chances.
Comment by Shaun — August 23, 2008 @ 10:16 am
A CHEATER who will restore a "sense of honor." Nice concept, Bobby Buck. Anyone who'd like to read up on Biden's record for "honor" might just Google "Biden
Cheating". The list goes on for pages and pages.
Comment by Mike — August 23, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
Mike,
Sounds to me like sour grapes...perhaps? America needs Obama/Biden like no other time in the destiny of this 200 year-old great nation, to continue solidly for another 200 years and more...whether he cheated on an exam or not. It's the over nature of the individual that determines his true character and for what I have seen, President Obama has made a good judgment call in assessing that character. Comparing Dick Cheney's record to that of Vice-President Biden, makes Biden look like an altar boy/boy scout/guardian angel all rolled into one.
Comment by Bobby Buck — August 23, 2008 @ 4:04 pm
Good stuff, Mike. That sure is some "change I can believe in" (yuk yuk)
And don't forget..."I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man"
Yes, never mind Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Shanna Flowers ;), MLK Jr, ... I guess to Biden, Maya Angelou was not articulate. Sidney Poitier seems pretty "clean", too.
Guess he'll say whatever to put himself ahead, even if it's not his own words.
And I thought we were going to get the announcement sooner. I guess Obama was just...BIDEN HIS TIME....HAR HAR
Comment by Ed S. — August 23, 2008 @ 4:27 pm
Yes, Shaun, how about that free throw!
Now I'll throwing out a reality check regarding Joe Biden's cheating.
How many of you recall the exact rules of footnoting papers in school? Joe Biden quoted a source in a paper, but failed to quote the source exactly as the rules required. He apologized and explained that it was not malevolent or intentional. Hence, he was not dismissed from school.
You will find, or may already know, that Martin Luther King and "Roots" author Alex Haley are among those who have also been accused of plagiarism.
Y'all really want to get into a discussion of what constitutes cheating? I am going to be judging these men on their leadership qualities and character -- the kind that starts in the home and family first. That rules out a whole lot of politicians from my point of view.
Comment by "Ms." Goldenwillow — August 23, 2008 @ 8:56 pm
Be careful, Ed, or your remarks may show up in one of Biden's speeches. I hear he's "writing" (a.k.a. PLAGIARIZING) a speech for delivery this week entitled "I have a dream."
"Sour grapes"--for definition, see "Dose of Reality"
Like his idols, the Kennedys, Biden is nothing more than a Liar and a Cheat. And how does he explain his very public and derogatory remarks about his potential new boss? Bad choice, bad politics.
Comment by Mike — August 24, 2008 @ 2:50 am
Nice try, Ms. G., but it was more than a simple footnote omission, or he wouldn't have gotten an F in the class. And he has a LONG HISTORY of PLAGIARIZING speeches by others, including, but not limited to Neal Kinnock, Hubert Humphrey and fellow CHEATER Robert Kennedy. When a Cheat steals from another Cheat, will the real scoundrel please stand up?
Comment by Mike — August 24, 2008 @ 10:54 am
Isn't it sad that as patriotic Americans we find ourselves having to determine which cheating politicians are better or worse than others? And which of any will do the most good for our country.
Mike, I think you might have meant Ted Kennedy, who was expelled twice -- once for cheating on a test and once for paying a classmate to take a test for him. Or maybe you were referring to another cheating incident? The list is endless . . .
Does anyone have any ideas as to which "non-cheating" politician McCain might choose? . . . to head back in the direction of Shanna's original question.
Thanks, Ms. G.--s
Comment by Ms. Goldenwillow — August 24, 2008 @ 2:12 pm
"Ms." G
Far as cheaters goes where does Hillary and Bill Clinton rank?
Or what you are saying since Bill cheated in the White house with Monica Lewinsky, Barbara Streisand and Sharon Stone to name a "few" makes cheating classy or classless.
Or is ducking imaginary Sniper fire more realistic than miss-placing White House files needed for investigation for a fraud case. Maybe we can contact Harry Potter so he can conjure up the $50,000 dollars in cash that Chinese businessman Johnny Chung seem to have lost in White House 1993.
For all intent and purposes cheating is the least of my worries, by the way has anyone seen my car keys?
Comment by Terry B — August 24, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
Terry B,
Hill & Bill rank as not having won the Presidential or the Vice-Presidential nomination -- because enough folks decided they did not want more of the same.
Thank goodness, we can now move on to discussing the actual contenders in the presidential race.
Comment by Ms. Goldenwillow — August 24, 2008 @ 4:31 pm
Since Obama visted the South America countries of Ecuador, Bolivia and Guatemala they said that they will suspend US military involvement on the war on drugs by closing those bases.
I guest that means more drug dealers fighting for control over public streets to sell drugs.
Then there's that gun control ban. If you take fire arms from Law abiding citizens then we have criminals with guns and citizens using "harsh language" to thwart crimes.
Tax cuts? Why not switch to the FAIR TAX!!!
Even a person
with a zero percent income tax rate today must pay payroll taxes on the first dollar they earn and
also pay hidden federal taxes in the prices of everything they buy. The FairTax removes these
hidden taxes, eliminates the payroll tax, and holds all taxpayers harmless against any taxes on
essentials such as food, clothing, and shelter.
These are the issues that concerns me as well as immigration it's time to put these politicians to task instead of giving them a blank check on well rehearsed speeches.
Comment by Terry B — August 24, 2008 @ 6:14 pm
My wild guess will be McCain/Romney as Romney will solidify the conservative base that McCain is shaky on. I can't imagine a more competent combination, nor can I fathom a more ruinous duo than Obama/Biden.
Comment by Jim — August 24, 2008 @ 9:23 pm
Jim:
Your fears of a "ruinous duo" seem to be supported by the latest polls out today, which show McCain has advanced to a dead heat since Biden was chosen. I still can't believe that Obama picked that buffoon to run with him.
Comment by Mike — August 25, 2008 @ 1:24 am
I am not a betting man unless I can determine the outcome based on some sort of reasonable logic. In this case, I would bet that those of you critical of the Obama/Biden ticket are Limbaugh loons aka "ditto heads".
Comment by Bobby Buck — August 25, 2008 @ 7:59 am
IF these polls are accurate, and 50% of the voters are still favoring McCain after the last 8 years of Bush/Cheney, it sure dosen't say much for what the Democrats have put up as an alternative. Democrats have an amazing ability to snatch defeat out of the jaws of sure victory. IF the Democrats had just nominated some popular Governor or Senator whose crimes/bribes/graft hasn't come out yet (its there for sure, just hasn't been discovered yet) they would have won in a record landslide just from people voting AGAINST the Bush crooks. But unless the BushMaster pulls some more of his idiot stunts between now and election day, when the people that ARE silly enough to still vote do, they're just not going to vote for O'sammy O'bammy in the end no matter what they tell the poll takers. The Republicans lie, cheat, steal, line the pockets of the rich to the max, and still the Democrats throw elections away by nominating complete NOTHINGS. Anybody that pays any attention to ANY politician is a bigger fool than the crooks themselves.
Comment by Percy Kution — August 25, 2008 @ 9:48 am
Percy: While I don't always agree totally with what you say, you certainly have an eloquent way of saying it. Keep 'em coming.
Bobby Buck:FYI, I can't stand Rush or the ultra right wing of the party, but like Percy says, there simply isn't much alternative choice here than McCain with a buffoon like Biden on the ticket.
Comment by Mike — August 25, 2008 @ 12:53 pm
Bobby Buck,
I don't care for Limbaugh. I tried to listen to his show once, but there was too much "buy my book" and sensationalization. It's the same on both sides of the talk radio dial.
Of the three options listed, I think Romney is the more likely choice for McCain. As I've said before, I could see him slighly reaching "across the aisle", though.
Comment by Ed S. — August 25, 2008 @ 2:46 pm