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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/shannaflowers/2009/01/08/legal-or-not-plan-stinks/#comment-2233</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Deusch:

With all due respect, HUHHHHH???????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Deusch:</p>
<p>With all due respect, HUHHHHH???????????</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/shannaflowers/2009/01/08/legal-or-not-plan-stinks/#comment-2231</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Flowers, I must disagree with your opinion regarding Salem City Council members, Jones/Garst and your apparent disdain for Salem and its' residents. I have lived in both Roanoke County (20 years) and the City of Salem (5 years). I do not agree that Salem Residents believe they are better than others or that our local government is corrupt. Salem is a wonderful place to live and raise a family. After subscribing to The Roanoke Times for more than 25 years, I recently cancelled my subscription to the paper and it was articles just like yours that I found distasteful and biased to the point that my husband and I no longer wished to read the news as reported by The Times. Your article was emailed to me by a friend and now I'm even more convinced that I no longer wish to spend my money on The Roanoke Times.

&lt;strong&gt;I am sorry you have chosen to end your long-standing relationship with the newspaper. As an opinion writer, I have penned many, many columns taking Roanoke city leaders to task over a variety of issues. In four years, I have written about Salem three times, I believe. And one of those was when the high school forensics team won the state championship a few years ago.---s&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Flowers, I must disagree with your opinion regarding Salem City Council members, Jones/Garst and your apparent disdain for Salem and its' residents. I have lived in both Roanoke County (20 years) and the City of Salem (5 years). I do not agree that Salem Residents believe they are better than others or that our local government is corrupt. Salem is a wonderful place to live and raise a family. After subscribing to The Roanoke Times for more than 25 years, I recently cancelled my subscription to the paper and it was articles just like yours that I found distasteful and biased to the point that my husband and I no longer wished to read the news as reported by The Times. Your article was emailed to me by a friend and now I'm even more convinced that I no longer wish to spend my money on The Roanoke Times.</p>
<p><strong>I am sorry you have chosen to end your long-standing relationship with the newspaper. As an opinion writer, I have penned many, many columns taking Roanoke city leaders to task over a variety of issues. In four years, I have written about Salem three times, I believe. And one of those was when the high school forensics team won the state championship a few years ago.---s</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Deutsch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/shannaflowers/2009/01/08/legal-or-not-plan-stinks/#comment-2228</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Deutsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now you all above the law Ms. Flowers?  You simply don't like it and that's all the reason you can offer? You ask for civic leaders who are open and in touch with the public.  Salem gives you business leaders who comply with the law and offer all associated documents and it's still not enough?  It must be lonely in the ivory tower.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now you all above the law Ms. Flowers?  You simply don't like it and that's all the reason you can offer? You ask for civic leaders who are open and in touch with the public.  Salem gives you business leaders who comply with the law and offer all associated documents and it's still not enough?  It must be lonely in the ivory tower.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/shannaflowers/2009/01/08/legal-or-not-plan-stinks/#comment-2224</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Percy:
You said it much more eloquently than I could have, but I agree 100% that Salemites don't need a sewer, since their sewage could be marketed as ice cream. Just ask them.  Now that, as Ed has pointed out, this is no longer an issue, I can see Shanna's point clearly about the "appearance of impropriety," but I believe the two individuals involved would have bent over backwards to be honest and fair in submitting future bids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Percy:<br />
You said it much more eloquently than I could have, but I agree 100% that Salemites don't need a sewer, since their sewage could be marketed as ice cream. Just ask them.  Now that, as Ed has pointed out, this is no longer an issue, I can see Shanna's point clearly about the "appearance of impropriety," but I believe the two individuals involved would have bent over backwards to be honest and fair in submitting future bids.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed S.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/shannaflowers/2009/01/08/legal-or-not-plan-stinks/#comment-2220</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like it has been "corrected".  Next!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like it has been "corrected".  Next!</p>
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		<title>By: Di</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/shannaflowers/2009/01/08/legal-or-not-plan-stinks/#comment-2219</link>
		<dc:creator>Di</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Salem,  Confucius say: People with nose high in air just looking for pigeon to s--- in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Salem,  Confucius say: People with nose high in air just looking for pigeon to s--- in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dona Wheeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dona Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Percy I did not read your post before writing mine, but it seems we are riding the same waves...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Percy I did not read your post before writing mine, but it seems we are riding the same waves...</p>
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		<title>By: Dona Wheeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dona Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently you do not know that Salem is an enity into it's self and as such has it's own code, laws, and social standards. I never lived there,but for over 2 decades saw,heard and learned a lot, that I found shocking to say the least, and it goes to the grave, native Salemites NEVER do anything wrong, EVER, never forget, and never LET IT GO.
My life is in danger for alertering you... Yea there are a few good people, but it's hard to seperate 'em so I just hang in my neck o the woods.
When they turn on you for any percived wrong you are dead meat..
Never dare to cross a Salem Christian,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently you do not know that Salem is an enity into it's self and as such has it's own code, laws, and social standards. I never lived there,but for over 2 decades saw,heard and learned a lot, that I found shocking to say the least, and it goes to the grave, native Salemites NEVER do anything wrong, EVER, never forget, and never LET IT GO.<br />
My life is in danger for alertering you... Yea there are a few good people, but it's hard to seperate 'em so I just hang in my neck o the woods.<br />
When they turn on you for any percived wrong you are dead meat..<br />
Never dare to cross a Salem Christian,</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Buck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/rtblogs/shannaflowers/2009/01/08/legal-or-not-plan-stinks/#comment-2215</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Civic Responsibility,Community Obligation, and Dead End Churches: I posted an e-mail earlier about the positive reflection of the young ROTC Members attending William Fleming. I ride past a church on Lafayette near the intersection of Staunton almost daily and it is truly an eyesore. The paint is peeling off of the columns in front as well as other parts of the building. The place is generally unkempt for supposedly a place of worship in a pretty much poverty-stricken community. Yet, during their weekend services the parking lot is filled with the latest vehicles which makes me wonder if this is a classic example of the blind leading the blind. For heaven's sake, take some pride and clean up this ostentatious shanty. Moving on, I ride past the Samaritan Inn, and see what appears to be healthy men standing around for a hand-out. For heaven's sake, ask to earn a meal or an income by doing some chores while in town, like helping the people at that dead-end church to paint their building. The Samaritan Inn and other "hand-out" agencies should volunteer to provide helpful services to the Roanoke Community via what appears to be a transient brood, like sweeping sidewalks, raking yards, cutting grass, painting, cleaning, etc. There is no pie in the sky and likewise should be no unearned rewards. I and some of my associates have contacted churches galore about providing preventative healthcare technology that might not only save their members money but possibly their lives and only a few pastors have taken the initiative to see if this program could help...preachers more concerned about their tithes than the health of those doing the tithing...cart before the horse. What has your church done to earn those tithes when you see no immediate improvement surrounding your not-for-profit, pie-in-the-sky corral? Corral might not be the proper term for sheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Civic Responsibility,Community Obligation, and Dead End Churches: I posted an e-mail earlier about the positive reflection of the young ROTC Members attending William Fleming. I ride past a church on Lafayette near the intersection of Staunton almost daily and it is truly an eyesore. The paint is peeling off of the columns in front as well as other parts of the building. The place is generally unkempt for supposedly a place of worship in a pretty much poverty-stricken community. Yet, during their weekend services the parking lot is filled with the latest vehicles which makes me wonder if this is a classic example of the blind leading the blind. For heaven's sake, take some pride and clean up this ostentatious shanty. Moving on, I ride past the Samaritan Inn, and see what appears to be healthy men standing around for a hand-out. For heaven's sake, ask to earn a meal or an income by doing some chores while in town, like helping the people at that dead-end church to paint their building. The Samaritan Inn and other "hand-out" agencies should volunteer to provide helpful services to the Roanoke Community via what appears to be a transient brood, like sweeping sidewalks, raking yards, cutting grass, painting, cleaning, etc. There is no pie in the sky and likewise should be no unearned rewards. I and some of my associates have contacted churches galore about providing preventative healthcare technology that might not only save their members money but possibly their lives and only a few pastors have taken the initiative to see if this program could help...preachers more concerned about their tithes than the health of those doing the tithing...cart before the horse. What has your church done to earn those tithes when you see no immediate improvement surrounding your not-for-profit, pie-in-the-sky corral? Corral might not be the proper term for sheep.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former resident of the west Salem area, I love your comment Percy! It is so true. They have their own song, I'm Salem born and Salem bred and when I die I'll be Salem dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former resident of the west Salem area, I love your comment Percy! It is so true. They have their own song, I'm Salem born and Salem bred and when I die I'll be Salem dead.</p>
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