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Winter forecasts: General consensus toward cold, moist

As I write about in today's Weather Journal column, there was no big shock when the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (the overseeing agency for the National Weather Service) came out with its winter forecast, which is basically a textbook moderate El Nino pattern. Cooler than normal temperatures with near average precipitation would be the general call for our region, based on the forecast maps.

I alluded to Accuweather.com's forecasts, which are widely followed, and are very robust on snow potential for the East this winter (as they seem to be quite frequently). I've added a few links to those forecasts and one other from some private forecasters ... all thanks to my readers who have watched out for these forecasts while I've been otherwise occupied this fall.

It does remind me a bit of the buildup to a football season ... it's all hype until the pigskin flies and the pads pop. And when it comes to snow, there have been several losing seasons recently for the region's winter fans.

Accuweather.com compares its forecast to that released by NOAA on Thursday ... overall pretty similar.

Accuweather.com's Joe Bastardi going very big on winter snow forecasts for our region.

Accuweather.com's Henry Margusity calls for 46 inches of snow for Roanoke in big Eastern winter

Forecasters Hunter Outten and Mike Petro with a similar snowy outlook (Adobe Acrobat required)

Meanwhile, winter fans, enjoy any snowflakes you see tonight or Saturday, especially in higher elevations and locations west of I-81. I will get to my thoughts ... and introduce the Winter 2009-10 snowfall prediction contest ... in two weeks.

A cold, raw day

It appears that the airport at Hot Springs ... actually located on top of the mountain above the town and The Homestead ... experienced some snow overnight and this morning as temperatures dipped to just above freezing.

And it appears almost certain that Roanoke will set an Oct. 15 record for coldest high temperature today ... and it likely won't even be close. We're sitting at 44 this morning, the record is 53 set in 1978 and 2002, and rain is moving in as cold air damming maintains its hold on our region.

A cold front and some more snowflakes, especially in the higher elevations, are still on the way for Friday and Saturday. If a flake or two blows into the Roanoke Valley, Saturday morning would be the best bet.

Yes, that is the 's-word' this weekend ... after lots of rain

Chilly, rainy weather is on tap through the weekend with some cold-air damming from the northeast and an active jet stream bringing a series of storms across the country that will sling Gulf of Mexico moisture over that cooler air. The rain is on the Roanoke Valley's doorstep right now (click here for local National Weather Service radar).

And by the weekend, higher elevations in our area may see the first snowflakes of the season behind a cold front.

It will take me a few days to get back in the weather groove. I've barely paid attention during the past week after being in Arkansas for my dad's funeral.

I do know that, suddenly, the weather pattern looks a lot like winter.

Weather Journal on hiatus

Weather Journal will be taking an extended break due to a death in the family. I hope to be back in about a week or so.

Tropical Storm Grace nears .... IRELAND?

Here's something you don't see everyday: An Atlantic tropical storm taking aim on Ireland. Tropical Storm Grace has formed in the far northeastern section of where you would expect any Atlantic tropical cyclone to form ... almost off the Atlantic map provided by the National Hurricane Center. Grace, a small tropical storm, peaked at 65 mph winds earlier today, but is still pretty potent with 60 mph winds. It is expected to become absorbed into a large extratropical low pressure system perhaps before it can make contact with the coast of Ireland. 

In a recent discussion, the National Hurricane Center states: "IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT OTHER ATLANTIC TROPICAL STORMS HAVE FORMED FARTHER NORTH THAN GRACE DID. IN 2008 TROPICAL STORM LAURA WAS FIRST CLASSIFIED AS A TROPICAL STORM AT 40.6N....SLIGHTLY FARTHER NORTH THAN THE LATITUDE OF 40.2N WHERE GRACE WAS FIRST CLASSIFIED AS A TROPICAL STORM AT 0000 UTC TODAY.  ALSO...IT IS LIKELY THAT POST-STORM ANALYSIS WILL SHOW GRACE BECOMING A TROPICAL STORM EARLIER...AND FARTHER SOUTH...THAN INDICATED OPERATIONALLY."

Meanwhile, there is another area in the central Atlantic that has a medium risk of becoming the next tropical storm, which would be named Henri. So though it has been an afterthought lately, Atlantic tropical season is continuing to kick along a bit.

Some signs of a winter-ish pattern may be appearing

First off, you can note in the pattern of projected rainfall over the next 5 days  (courtesy of the Hydrometeorological Prediction Center) something resembling an El Nino-like character, with the heaviest rainfall concentrated from Texas toward the Gulf Coast. There is also a secondary stripe of enhanced rainfall through the northern U.S. where the main branch of the jet stream currently flows, basically west to east. Note the dry hole over Virginia though ... not much rain is expected in our region, as we will likely be between the best dynamics to the north and best moisture to the south.

Perhaps more interesting to anyone looking for a more winterlike pattern is that a cold air mass from the Arctic is expected to slip down into the north-central and northwest U.S. -- much below normal temperatures are expected -- and then steadily shift eastward as the Friday's 6-to-10-day and 8-to-14-day temperature projection forecast maps from the Climate Prediction Center illustrate. These maps show a progressive flow with some cold air moving across the nation, as cold fronts are dragged eastward by low-pressure systems moving to the north.

Some pieces more like winter than summer are beginning to appear on the board. That's typically what October is about, a transition time between the slower, warmer, more stagnant pattern of summer and the faster, cooler, crisper pattern of winter. Colored leaves will be flying through the air within weeks, and who knows, maybe something cold and white mixed within them a time or two.

Fall colors: What are you seeing?

I wrote in Friday's Weather Journal column about fall foliage, talking to Virginia Tech forestry expert John Seiler (thanks to blog commenter Nate for the suggestion!). What are you seeing with fall colors so far? And how do you expect the foliage to be in Southwest Virginia when it peaks?

'Cold front' won't bring much cold air

Sometimes, cold fronts aren't really "cold" fronts. Such will be the case Friday night when a Pacific cold front zips through. It might trigger a few showers, but not many, as it pushes across the area. But it will not introduce any dramatically cooler weather. In fact, temperatures over the next several days will be a tad warmer than they have been the last couple, as a Pacific air mass replaces on of more Canadian origin. It does look like a dry, fairly seasonable pattern ahead, with highs in the 70s and lows in the 40s and low 50s each day until another front arrives with some rain about the middle of next week.

The chill is back, if but for a moment

Blacksburg's morning low reached at least 37, and Roanoke's dipped to at least 43. I say "at least" becasue sometimes a later analysis reveals a lower dip. As they are, these mark the lowest temperatures at those sites since May 20, when Blacksburg was 36 and Roanoke was 42 (after being 33 and 37, respectively, the previous day). You can click here for various other weather observation sites in the area, at least one of which dipped as low as 30. (I'll let you find it.)

While most mornings the next week are expected to be seasonably cool in the 40s and low 50s, daytime highs will creep back into the 70s. So this taste of frosty chill is, for now, a brief one.

Frost advisory for Thursday morning west of Roanoke

UPDATED 12:20 P.M.: Several counties west of the Roanoke Valley are under a frost advisory for Thursday morning.  END UPDATE

You might need a jacket this morning with temperatures in the 40s to low 50s, but autumn chill will settle in big-time by Thursday morning. Some valleys could see lows a few degrees above freezing, with frost possible, with most everybody in Southwest Virginia no warmer than the low 40s. Temperatures will moderate some by the weekend, but it does appear that rather mild fall weather is with us for several days.

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    Kevin Myatt works on the copy desk for The Roanoke Times and is its principal weather geek, writing a weekly weather column and advising the newsroom on weather topics. He helps guide students on a storm chasing trip to the central U.S. each May and was an editor for "Hurricanes and the Middle Atlantic States."

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    • Andy J: Just to let you know, I enjoy reading your blog, I await your return, and hope all is well.
    • Zach: Jus somethig interesting here, - ridges in Highland County are reporting up to 1″ of snow, with 1-2 more...
    • Other John: I wound up driving through a lot of rain last night on the way back to the area, though thankfully it...
    • Other John: Watching the latest update, it’s up to CAT 2 and the Weather Channel folks are showing the low...
    • Wanda: Wishing you well with your family…Take care.