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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/news/2012/05/05/large-student-housing-development-proposed/#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 21:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and one more thing-- the developer uses the term &quot;resort&quot; on its own website and marketing materials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and one more thing&#8211; the developer uses the term &#8220;resort&#8221; on its own website and marketing materials.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/news/2012/05/05/large-student-housing-development-proposed/#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 21:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael, I hear you.  I have no problem with people pursuing profit, and I generally am pro-development.  But we have to keep in mind that this is an out-of-town operation (so unfortunately the profits would leave our area) and it is the local community&#039;s responsibility to make sure that what they propose and build is best for our community.  It isn&#039;t their responsibility to do it and we shouldn&#039;t expect them to do it.  I think the issue isn&#039;t whether or not to build more student housing in Bburg, but whether to change the zoning on this piece of property for this particular project.  I have no doubt that the land owners can make a lot more money selling the land to this developer than by developing the way that they (and the town) originally intended, but that alone shouldn&#039;t be reason enough for the town to change its plans.  I agree with you that knee-jerk anti-development reactions are annoying, but knee-jerk pro-development reactions can be just as misguided.  Everyone should be allowed to weigh in on the process without name-calling or condescending responses.  Perhaps there are legitimate reasons that town planners zoned this parcel the way they did and those are worth discussing and weighing against the promises made by the developer.  Just my 2 cents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I hear you.  I have no problem with people pursuing profit, and I generally am pro-development.  But we have to keep in mind that this is an out-of-town operation (so unfortunately the profits would leave our area) and it is the local community&#8217;s responsibility to make sure that what they propose and build is best for our community.  It isn&#8217;t their responsibility to do it and we shouldn&#8217;t expect them to do it.  I think the issue isn&#8217;t whether or not to build more student housing in Bburg, but whether to change the zoning on this piece of property for this particular project.  I have no doubt that the land owners can make a lot more money selling the land to this developer than by developing the way that they (and the town) originally intended, but that alone shouldn&#8217;t be reason enough for the town to change its plans.  I agree with you that knee-jerk anti-development reactions are annoying, but knee-jerk pro-development reactions can be just as misguided.  Everyone should be allowed to weigh in on the process without name-calling or condescending responses.  Perhaps there are legitimate reasons that town planners zoned this parcel the way they did and those are worth discussing and weighing against the promises made by the developer.  Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Carroll</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/news/2012/05/05/large-student-housing-development-proposed/#comment-1708</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 23:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg, I do agree with you in regards to the proximity to campus. It&#039;s a mile to The Inn and Conference Center. Maybe they are talking about the Math Emporium?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I do agree with you in regards to the proximity to campus. It&#8217;s a mile to The Inn and Conference Center. Maybe they are talking about the Math Emporium?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Carroll</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/news/2012/05/05/large-student-housing-development-proposed/#comment-1707</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 22:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of notes to all you complainers... 

First off, this land is being sold because of the housing crisis in our country, and yes, even our town. It was originally designated for a development of single family homes, which apparently aren&#039;t in demand at this time or they would be built. Student housing is actually in need. Why else would the developer consider buying and developing it? Why would the current owners sell such a prime piece of land? Simple, single family homes are just not selling right now and the buyer feels they can make a profit by renting to students. Last time I heard there was nothing wrong with making a profit in our country.
Higher rents for this “Resort” as some of you call it? I won’t mention any names, but I know several apartment/townhouse locations geared towards students with some pretty high rents themselves. The fact is, the more housing available, the lower all the prices will eventually get. Maybe some of you have heard of supply and demand? I have two kids in college and believe me; I know how much rent is in this area. 
Second, let me remind all of you that if not for all these “evil” students who need housing and Virginia Tech itself, probably not a single one of you, or the town of Blacksburg as it is, would even be here. I know I wouldn’t. I do not work for Virginia Tech, but the company I do work for was started by several Tech grads many years ago. 
I have viewed the websites and looked at the “propaganda” on both sides and have even spoken to some people I know involved and what I see is the typical “not in my backyard” attitude and the overly done “good for the community” on the other side. 
If this land was in my back yard, I would say build away. In fact, when I lived in Christiansburg, which would probably not even have an interstate exit if not for VA Tech, they built an industrial park literally almost directly in my back yard. Maybe you’ve heard of it, The Falling Branch Industrial Park? My kids went to Falling Branch Elementary School when they were building the industrial park and I was 100% ok with it. I knew that eventually it would mean jobs for our community. 
I know that most, if not all of you have your minds made up. I remember trying to convince my neighbors years ago that building an industrial park in our back yards wasn’t going to cause their houses to blow up. And guess what, their houses are still there! 
Things are never as good or bad as two sides make it out to be. I am just asking everyone to have an open mind. I know that’s a lot to ask, this is Blacksburg after all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of notes to all you complainers&#8230; </p>
<p>First off, this land is being sold because of the housing crisis in our country, and yes, even our town. It was originally designated for a development of single family homes, which apparently aren&#8217;t in demand at this time or they would be built. Student housing is actually in need. Why else would the developer consider buying and developing it? Why would the current owners sell such a prime piece of land? Simple, single family homes are just not selling right now and the buyer feels they can make a profit by renting to students. Last time I heard there was nothing wrong with making a profit in our country.<br />
Higher rents for this “Resort” as some of you call it? I won’t mention any names, but I know several apartment/townhouse locations geared towards students with some pretty high rents themselves. The fact is, the more housing available, the lower all the prices will eventually get. Maybe some of you have heard of supply and demand? I have two kids in college and believe me; I know how much rent is in this area.<br />
Second, let me remind all of you that if not for all these “evil” students who need housing and Virginia Tech itself, probably not a single one of you, or the town of Blacksburg as it is, would even be here. I know I wouldn’t. I do not work for Virginia Tech, but the company I do work for was started by several Tech grads many years ago.<br />
I have viewed the websites and looked at the “propaganda” on both sides and have even spoken to some people I know involved and what I see is the typical “not in my backyard” attitude and the overly done “good for the community” on the other side.<br />
If this land was in my back yard, I would say build away. In fact, when I lived in Christiansburg, which would probably not even have an interstate exit if not for VA Tech, they built an industrial park literally almost directly in my back yard. Maybe you’ve heard of it, The Falling Branch Industrial Park? My kids went to Falling Branch Elementary School when they were building the industrial park and I was 100% ok with it. I knew that eventually it would mean jobs for our community.<br />
I know that most, if not all of you have your minds made up. I remember trying to convince my neighbors years ago that building an industrial park in our back yards wasn’t going to cause their houses to blow up. And guess what, their houses are still there!<br />
Things are never as good or bad as two sides make it out to be. I am just asking everyone to have an open mind. I know that’s a lot to ask, this is Blacksburg after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Love It Here</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/news/2012/05/05/large-student-housing-development-proposed/#comment-1706</link>
		<dc:creator>Love It Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 20:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And just to clarify, the &quot;article&quot; is poorly fact checked (Rt 11 does not go through Blacksburg; and I know this isn&#039;t targeting &quot;only students&quot;...so stop freaking out. Can this town pull its head out of its own backend and stop killing most projects that come our way? Within 100 YARDS of this site are 3 relatively new, established neighborhoods that were built on open land...this sit is essentially a donut hole in the midst of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just to clarify, the &#8220;article&#8221; is poorly fact checked (Rt 11 does not go through Blacksburg; and I know this isn&#8217;t targeting &#8220;only students&#8221;&#8230;so stop freaking out. Can this town pull its head out of its own backend and stop killing most projects that come our way? Within 100 YARDS of this site are 3 relatively new, established neighborhoods that were built on open land&#8230;this sit is essentially a donut hole in the midst of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Love It Here</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/news/2012/05/05/large-student-housing-development-proposed/#comment-1705</link>
		<dc:creator>Love It Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 20:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This development sits adjacent to development on THREE sides: North, South and East across the 460 Bypass in an area already attracting almost identically designed residential structures. Let&#039;s got get all NIMBY! This is literally linking two existing neighborhoods and is being built as &#039;close in&#039; to town as you can rather than being built further out. Visit all of their other projects - they are well designed, not giant apartments and fit the character of the neighborhood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This development sits adjacent to development on THREE sides: North, South and East across the 460 Bypass in an area already attracting almost identically designed residential structures. Let&#8217;s got get all NIMBY! This is literally linking two existing neighborhoods and is being built as &#8216;close in&#8217; to town as you can rather than being built further out. Visit all of their other projects &#8211; they are well designed, not giant apartments and fit the character of the neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Anthony</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/news/2012/05/05/large-student-housing-development-proposed/#comment-1700</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 02:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Fact Checker- not sure where you&#039;re getting your facts but you should check them.  This development is for undergraduate students.  It will not bring any new residents but simply move them out of existing rentals.  According to Landmark 42% of these will come out of homes in Blacksburg (most of which are owned locally).  This will take rental income away from property owners and decrease the property value of those homes (decreasing property taxes) and decreasing property values for nearby residents.  Furthermore, Landmark will bring their own construction crews.  They claim that they will still be hiring some additional construction workers but as with most projects of this size the majority of those workers will come from large firms outside the area who are accustomed to working on projects of this scale.  As for ongoing employment Landmark claims they will employ 9 people in property management and maintenance positions- this will be a shifting of employment from apartment complexes that will end up with fewer residents; therefore, fewer employees.

Recent studies show Blacksburg has a need for retirement style housing and housing for young professionals and graduate students.  Either of these could be built on the same property and stay within current zoning.  A project of this size could potentially be built by a local developer and truly generate local revenue and jobs.  They would also be more likely to bring new residents to the area. You cannot just develop for the sake of development- you have to develop based on the needs of the town, and with the least amount of distruction to the environment.  There is vacant land in town already zoned for higher density housing as well as areas that are underdeveloped for the current zoning.  These areas already have the infrastructure to support growth and should be maximized before we encroach on surrounding areas preserved by the 2046 Comprehensive Plan.  

Yes, this project could generate some jobs and some revenue but nowhere near what Landmark claims.  And the same amount of jobs and revenue could be generated by developing in areas already zoned for it.  

This is not good for Blacksburg!  This only good for Landmark Properties out of Georgia-]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Fact Checker- not sure where you&#8217;re getting your facts but you should check them.  This development is for undergraduate students.  It will not bring any new residents but simply move them out of existing rentals.  According to Landmark 42% of these will come out of homes in Blacksburg (most of which are owned locally).  This will take rental income away from property owners and decrease the property value of those homes (decreasing property taxes) and decreasing property values for nearby residents.  Furthermore, Landmark will bring their own construction crews.  They claim that they will still be hiring some additional construction workers but as with most projects of this size the majority of those workers will come from large firms outside the area who are accustomed to working on projects of this scale.  As for ongoing employment Landmark claims they will employ 9 people in property management and maintenance positions- this will be a shifting of employment from apartment complexes that will end up with fewer residents; therefore, fewer employees.</p>
<p>Recent studies show Blacksburg has a need for retirement style housing and housing for young professionals and graduate students.  Either of these could be built on the same property and stay within current zoning.  A project of this size could potentially be built by a local developer and truly generate local revenue and jobs.  They would also be more likely to bring new residents to the area. You cannot just develop for the sake of development- you have to develop based on the needs of the town, and with the least amount of distruction to the environment.  There is vacant land in town already zoned for higher density housing as well as areas that are underdeveloped for the current zoning.  These areas already have the infrastructure to support growth and should be maximized before we encroach on surrounding areas preserved by the 2046 Comprehensive Plan.  </p>
<p>Yes, this project could generate some jobs and some revenue but nowhere near what Landmark claims.  And the same amount of jobs and revenue could be generated by developing in areas already zoned for it.  </p>
<p>This is not good for Blacksburg!  This only good for Landmark Properties out of Georgia-</p>
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		<title>By: DA</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/news/2012/05/05/large-student-housing-development-proposed/#comment-1697</link>
		<dc:creator>DA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 21:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To follow up on my previous statement, the Columbia, SC &quot;Retreat&quot; was of poor quality and the home started falling apart after the first year. This is not the quality of development that Blacksburg needs or deserves. I no longer live in Blacksburg, but think this would be a horrible decision to allow this development to occur. Good luck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To follow up on my previous statement, the Columbia, SC &#8220;Retreat&#8221; was of poor quality and the home started falling apart after the first year. This is not the quality of development that Blacksburg needs or deserves. I no longer live in Blacksburg, but think this would be a horrible decision to allow this development to occur. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Ann Bonadeo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/news/2012/05/05/large-student-housing-development-proposed/#comment-1696</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Ann Bonadeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 18:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Michael Carroll&#039;s comment above, this development is NOT going to provide more affordable student housing. The developer told the neighbors that their rents will be 28% higher than anything else in Blacksburg, and they specifically came looking for land in the Blacksburg community because of the high concentration of VT students from the most affluent zip codes in Northern Virginia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Michael Carroll&#8217;s comment above, this development is NOT going to provide more affordable student housing. The developer told the neighbors that their rents will be 28% higher than anything else in Blacksburg, and they specifically came looking for land in the Blacksburg community because of the high concentration of VT students from the most affluent zip codes in Northern Virginia.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Dolbin-MacNab</title>
		<link>http://blogs.roanoke.com/theburgs/news/2012/05/05/large-student-housing-development-proposed/#comment-1695</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Dolbin-MacNab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 17:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This proposed student housing &quot;resort &quot;sounds like a very fun place to live if I were an undergraduate student who could afford the expensive resort price-tag that is sure to come with it.  When I was an undergrad, I would have loved it if my parents would have paid for me to live at a place like this.  It&#039;s undeniably a nice looking product.
 
The real questions are whether the proposed development is more than just a &quot;sweet&quot; place to live for the students who are lucky enough to live there but also good for the residents of Blacksburg over the long run, and whether the proposed site is appropriate for the density of development and the traffic, wastewater, noise, etc that will surely come as part of the deal.  
 
Landmark says Blacksburg needs this kind of housing. After all, what undergraduate student could possibly live without granite countertops, stainless steel appliances, and top-of-the-line amenities?    
 
Landmark cites enrollment projections from a source that is almost 10 years old to say that the need for undergraduate housing is increasing.  But more recent enrollment projections from Virginia Tech actually show that enrollment is increasing for graduate students and hardly at all for undergraduates.
 
Landmark says that there is not enough undergraduate housing in Blacksburg.  But a recent call to many Blacksburg apartments showed that most apartment complexes have many openings for the coming fall. 
 
Landmark uses lots of friendly-sounding buzz words like &#039;low density&#039; and &#039;sustainable&#039; to describe their proposal.  But the fact of the matter is that they want to quadruple the density of development from how it is currently approved, and the Comprehensive Plan specifies the need to protect this sensitive environmental area from this very type of over development. 
 
A closer examination of the facts leads me to believe that Blacksburg neither needs this type of housing, nor is the proposed site appropriate for it. 
 
It seems clear that Landmark is simply saying whatever they want to, whether or not it&#039;s true, to paint the picture that they want painted. Perhaps the real need here is the need Landmark has to sweet-talk themselves into a deal that would not be nearly as good for Blacksburg as they want people to believe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This proposed student housing &#8220;resort &#8220;sounds like a very fun place to live if I were an undergraduate student who could afford the expensive resort price-tag that is sure to come with it.  When I was an undergrad, I would have loved it if my parents would have paid for me to live at a place like this.  It&#8217;s undeniably a nice looking product.</p>
<p>The real questions are whether the proposed development is more than just a &#8220;sweet&#8221; place to live for the students who are lucky enough to live there but also good for the residents of Blacksburg over the long run, and whether the proposed site is appropriate for the density of development and the traffic, wastewater, noise, etc that will surely come as part of the deal.  </p>
<p>Landmark says Blacksburg needs this kind of housing. After all, what undergraduate student could possibly live without granite countertops, stainless steel appliances, and top-of-the-line amenities?    </p>
<p>Landmark cites enrollment projections from a source that is almost 10 years old to say that the need for undergraduate housing is increasing.  But more recent enrollment projections from Virginia Tech actually show that enrollment is increasing for graduate students and hardly at all for undergraduates.</p>
<p>Landmark says that there is not enough undergraduate housing in Blacksburg.  But a recent call to many Blacksburg apartments showed that most apartment complexes have many openings for the coming fall. </p>
<p>Landmark uses lots of friendly-sounding buzz words like &#8216;low density&#8217; and &#8216;sustainable&#8217; to describe their proposal.  But the fact of the matter is that they want to quadruple the density of development from how it is currently approved, and the Comprehensive Plan specifies the need to protect this sensitive environmental area from this very type of over development. </p>
<p>A closer examination of the facts leads me to believe that Blacksburg neither needs this type of housing, nor is the proposed site appropriate for it. </p>
<p>It seems clear that Landmark is simply saying whatever they want to, whether or not it&#8217;s true, to paint the picture that they want painted. Perhaps the real need here is the need Landmark has to sweet-talk themselves into a deal that would not be nearly as good for Blacksburg as they want people to believe.</p>
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